Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[Pressure]

People in here are trying to tell you these aren’t separate issues.

Better messaging is great. Fighting hard is great.

Pointless stunts is exactly the kind of bad messaging you say want to move away from. Lowering drug prices or decriminalizing marijuana is what people want to see.

introducing failed bills or failures at impeachment don’t move the needle.


the president is the leader of the team when things go good he gets credit and things go bad he gets the blame no matter if it’s Congress who bungled the handling. It’s his party. Trump just took more unnecessary hits cause of who he is.

Further, people who support Trump and Republicans don't think more aid is the solution. They think opening up is the solution.

People can't laugh at 600 dollar checks being a joke, but also not support larger checks.

 

[Hood Critic]

Whatever helps you sleep at night pal voters rejected trump and kept mitch and co. plain and simple

And he's the reason they're still trying to negotiate stimulus, at the end of December no less, and he's also the reason you aren't getting a $2K stimulus check. You just acknowledged the fact that republican voters didn't give a sh*t that he would rather get a supreme court justice appointed than give them stimulus - so do you now see how dumb your argument is?

 

[the cac mamba]

Still in here trying to make themselves feel better about clinging to the idea that Pelosi telling Mnuchin OK on his back of the napkin numbers was some how going to negatively affect the Republicans because of the election. While still ignoring the reality that McConnell told them and us he didn't give a f*ck what kind of agreement they came to amongst themselves, he wasn't bringing it to the floor.

with this defeatist attitude, you might as well just skip voting and let pelosi sit on your face for election day

its like i said. its no wonder this party is a fukking punching bag with voters like you as its base

 

[the cac mamba]

do i really have to post this question for the 80th fukkin time?

fine, you guys were right. mitch and the senate republicans would have shot down the 1.8 trillion if pelosi took it

but then...basic logic says she had nothing to lose by taking it is someone gonna tell me what the fukk she had to lose?

 

[Pressure]

do i really have to post this question for the 80th fukkin time?

fine, you guys were right. mitch and the senate republicans would have shot down the 1.8 trillion if pelosi took it

but then...basic logic says she had nothing to lose by taking it is someone gonna tell me what the fukk she had to lose?

Logic suggests, that Trump would have shot down the deal saying they need larger checks for the people heading into the election and possibly winning.

 

[Loose]

do i really have to post this question for the 80th fukkin time?

fine, you guys were right. mitch and the senate republicans would have shot down the 1.8 trillion if pelosi took it

but then...basic logic says she had nothing to lose by taking it is someone gonna tell me what the fukk she had to lose?

Can someone with a brain please tell me how Pelosi accepting the 1.8 trillion dollar offer would have resulted in people getting checks? The same 1.8 trillion bill mitch said he wouldn't bring forward. Or are we just trolling for congress to continue politicking with bad faith politicians?
In fact @CountryBalla , you answer this since this your idea too

 

[the cac mamba]

Logic suggests, that Trump would have shot down the deal saying they need larger checks for the people heading into the election and possibly winning.

so trump would have won for shooting down his own deal and getting absolutely nothing

forgive me for not believing that

 

[CBalla]

People in here are trying to tell you these aren’t separate issues.

Better messaging is great. Fighting hard is great.

Pointless stunts is exactly the kind of bad messaging you say want to move away from. Lowering drug prices or decriminalizing marijuana is what people want to see.

introducing failed bills or failures at impeachment don’t move the needle.


the president is the leader of the team when things go good he gets credit and things go bad he gets the blame no matter if it’s Congress who bungled the handling. It’s his party. Trump just took more unnecessary hits cause of who he is.

Its a separate issue we not about to debate on how we agree trump looked bad and got voted out
i think dems can do things to make repubs look bad and that aint changing

 

[CBalla]

And he's the reason they're still trying to negotiate stimulus, at the end of December no less, and he's also the reason you aren't getting a $2K stimulus check. You just acknowledged the fact that republican voters didn't give a sh*t that he would rather get a supreme court justice appointed than give them stimulus - so do you now see how dumb your argument is?

you cutting out parts of what im saying and putting words in my mouth to win an online debate with your circle jerk friends, breh kick rocks

 

[Loose]

Boys arguing to take the 1.8 trillion deal for pointless stunts . This what we've come to during a fukking pandemic

 

[Pressure]

so trump would have won for shooting down his own deal and getting absolutely nothing

forgive me for not believing that

It wasn't his deal. It was Mnuchins

 

[CBalla]

Can someone with a brain please tell me how Pelosi accepting the 1.8 trillion dollar offer would have resulted in people getting checks? The same 1.8 trillion bill mitch said he wouldn't bring forward. Or are we just trolling for congress to continue politicking with bad faith politicians?
In fact @CountryBalla , you answer this since this your idea too

You really aint grasping the fact that pre election its more about MAKING the other party look bad by accepting the 1.8 trillion


thats literally all cac is tryna say

 

[the cac mamba]

Can someone with a brain please tell me how Pelosi accepting the 1.8 trillion dollar offer would have resulted in people getting checks? The same 1.8 trillion bill mitch said he wouldn't bring forward. Or are we just trolling for congress to continue politicking with bad faith politicians?
In fact @CountryBalla , you answer this since this your idea too

yeah ill gladly and easily answer this

if pelosi takes the mnuchin deal before the election, one of two things happen

-the republicans take it because they're terrified of trump. checks go out for 1200 and 400 per week unemployment

-the republicans shoot it down in front of the entire country. the dems maybe dont lose 14 fukking house seats. maybe even take the senate, given that ernst and thillis and collins' voters dont appreciate them turning the bill down

anything else?

 

[CBalla]

yeah ill gladly and easily answer this

if pelosi takes the mnuchin deal, one of two things happen

-the republicans take it because they're terrified of trump. checks go out for 1200 and 400 per week unemployment

-the republicans shoot it down in front of the entire country. the dems maybe dont lose 14 fukking house seats. maybe even take the senate, given that ernst and thillis and collins' voters dont appreciate them turning the bill down

anything else?

its literally the simplest flowchart

 

[Loose]

You really aint grasping the fact that pre election its more about MAKING the other party look bad by accepting the 1.8 trillion


thats literally all cac is tryna say

The party has looked bad the entire 9 months , at you thinking mitch refusing to bring up a bill will do anything like the other 50 bills that benefit Americans he refuse to bring forward.

yeah ill gladly and easily answer this

if pelosi takes the mnuchin deal, one of two things happen

-the republicans take it because they're terrified of trump. checks go out for 1200 and 400 per week unemployment

-the republicans shoot it down in front of the entire country. the dems maybe dont lose 14 fukking house seats. maybe even take the senate, given that ernst and thillis and collins voters dont apreciate them turning the bill down

anything else?

Like I said above , mitch is extremely calculated and would refuse to bring the bill forward.

A. Trump wouldn't fight against the Republicans, because at the time trump actually needed them for his stupid justice fight versus now he's already lost so he doesn't need them

B. The entire country doesn't care about politicians politicking