Of what?
Basically just shyt that kills the environment for money and guns
Businesses dummy.
Of what?
Basically just shyt that kills the environment for money and guns
Businesses dummy.
They claim to be pro business and talk about strangling regulations yes.
But look closely and you'll see there are plenty of regulations they are perfectly fine with
it says "very unlikely"How would it be very likely to effect The Coli? Will the owners of this site be comfortable allowing the users the freedom to post whatever they want when they'll be legally liable for it? Would they employ a staff to review every post made before it's allowed to be seen? If that gets repealed simply owning a site like this becomes more trouble than it's worth.
That's the whole point of my first post dummy.
I was laughing at their hypocrisy.
So hypothetically you own this site and overnight you're legally liable for anything posted on it by any of it's members. What do you do? There's let's say 50 million post here and you're legally exposed to all of it.it says "very unlikely"
Someone has to sue you for it and it has to be held up in court, its uncharted territory, the possibilities are what people are concerned forSo hypothetically you own this site and overnight you're legally liable for anything posted on it by any of it's members. What do you do? There's let's say 50 million post here and you're legally exposed to all of it.
Someone has to sue you for it and it has to be held up in court, its uncharted territory, the possibilities are what people are concerned for
So business as usual and you take the chance of getting sued?Someone has to sue you for it and it has to be held up in court, its uncharted territory, the possibilities are what people are concerned for
So business as usual and you take the chance of getting sued?
For me if it was my site unless this site generated a fair amount of revenue it would either be sold or shut down.
Facebook has billions on their balance sheet and probably lawyers employed full time on staff. The smaller places online would be the first to suffer. They’d have to moderate themselves out of existence.
Places would be worse than ResetEra with mods policing everything.
I hate social media en masse(Facebook, instagram, twitter, reddit, tiktok, all that), its a win win for me (i'd be upset if anything happened to thecoli but i'd live)Folks in here are ready to sell their souls for that money.
Hope it's worth it.
Lawmakers demanding an end to the liability shield for Big Tech should have thought about that when they enshrined it in the new version of NAFTA.
BY DAVID DAYEN
JUNE 22, 2020
If you were to ask me to pick the legislation the policy world would be obsessing over in June 2020, during a coronavirus pandemic and persistent anti-racism protests, the Communications Decency Act would not have been at the top of the list. But CDA, and specifically Section 230 of the law, has vaulted near the top of policymakers’ concerns.
Known by its supporters as the provision that created the internet, Section 230 immunizes website owners from the activities of its users. So Facebook cannot be sued for a user’s post, or YouTube for an uploaded video. For most of its history it was seen as fostering tech innovation, but that no longer applies, as trust in Big Tech erodes in Washington.
Leaders across the political spectrum alternately blame Section 230 for enabling misinformation and hate speech, contributing to Big Tech dominance, and putting selected giant corporations above the law. And as Matt Stoller has documented, this anger is growing. Witness that fount of conventional wisdom Joe Scarborough losing his mind while accusing Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg of allowing hateful comments to spread unchecked on their platform, ruining democracy for a quick buck.
Business and advocacy communities are also demanding action. A flare-up between Apple and a new email app called Hey has developers stepping forward to condemn Apple’s App Store monopoly. Civil rights leaders who met with Zuckerberg released a searing statement afterward, condemning the CEO’s “incomprehensible explanations” for dealing with inflammatory Trump posts. This followed a virtual walkout by Facebook employees, and now top ad agency 360i wants its clients to honor the civil rights groups’ boycott of Facebook.
When Google banned one right-leaning site from its ad platform and threatened another, conservatives were quick to allege bias. Politicians on the left have attacked Apple for abusing its power and Google for enabling scam artists to target its users with advertising.
There are plenty of good reasons to alter the liability shield for Big Tech.
Not all of these complaints precisely connect to legal immunity for user-generated content, though many of them do. But it’s clear that everybody, left, right, and center, wants to do something, and Section 230 is sitting out there as something to do.
Everyone has a Section 230 plan; it’s one of the rare areas of agreement between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The Justice Department last week proposed legislation in line with a previous Trump executive order, limiting tech immunity if platforms violate free speech rights, “facilitate” violations of federal law or show “reckless disregard” to such violations happening on their sites. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) and several Republican colleagues rolled out legislation last week that extends Section 230 protections only to platforms “operating in good faith,” defined vaguely as not selectively enforcing terms of service or acting dishonestly. Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) have a similar bill. Sens. Mark Warner (D-VA) and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) have proposed limitations to the liability shield, as did presidential candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX).
There are plenty of good reasons to alter the liability shield for Big Tech. For one, Section 230 is being extended by companies like Airbnb (claiming the home rentals of their users are “third-party content”) and Amazon (the same for the product sold by third parties on their marketplace) in ways that are downright dangerous, subverting consumer protection and safety laws. For another, the conspiracy theories, algorithmic discrimination and online hate speech are prospering due in large part to that shield. One interesting concept for reform is to tie Section 230 to the banning of targeted advertising, which I called for two years ago, in the hopes that eliminating a click-bait business model would make hosting valuable content the only path to success.
But it’s hard to invest much energy in what the optimal Section 230 framework would be, since Big Tech has already solved this potential problem—in a way only they can love. Years ago, they succeeded in getting a Section 230-style provision into the reworked NAFTA, the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). And practically everybody now incensed by the Section 230 legal immunity willingly voted to implement it in that trade agreement. That makes it much, much more difficult to change it in any way.
I first wrote about Section 230 in the USMCA in July 2018. This was the first multilateral agreement that included such a provision, which isn’t standard outside the United States. By this point Big Tech already knew that its grip in Washington was loosening, so they managed to engage in a common tactic: implanting into a trade deal what they might lose if it were stand-alone legislation. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi belatedly tried to remove the provision from USMCA before it came to a vote last December but didn’t succeed. “There was not really a focus” on removing it, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told me recently.
The provision also appears in a bilateral agreement between the U.S. and Japan, and is expected to be a template for future deals.
At the time, the U.S. trade representative’s office insisted that there was an escape clause in the law, allowing countries to adopt “legitimate public policy objectives,” even if they conflict with the spirit of the trade deal. In 2018, Congress passed a carve-out to Section 230 through anti-sex trafficking legislation that holds tech companies responsible for such conduct being transacted on their websites. That would be able to stand, along with other changes, if the trade office is correct.
But it’s not entirely up to USTR. If the U.S. tries to alter Section 230, Facebook or Google could sue, maintaining that the proposed change, whatever it might be, was illegitimate and violated the USMCA. The case could go to an extrajudicial tribunal or the World Trade Organization, and the U.S. could lose the case or get tied up in the courts for years. Big Tech generally has no quarrel with the anti-sex trafficking bill, but something more disruptive would almost certainly draw a legal challenge. Adding the Section 230-style provision into the USMCA created an enormous hurdle.
Nearly everyone seeking to overhaul Section 230 voted for the USMCA, and the provision cementing Section 230 in place. Lindsey Graham, Richard Blumenthal, Mark Warner, Adam Schiff, Josh Hawley, and all the co-sponsors of Hawley’s bill (Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, Mike Braun and Kelly Loeffler) voted for it. Trump is talking big about canceling Section 230, but his trade agency negotiated it and he signed the trade deals that include something just like it.
The implementing legislation passed 385-41 in the House last December. Schakowsky and Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI) were two of those voting in favor, but they have since recognized the danger of putting the liability shield in the trade deal. In a March letter to the heads of the Appropriations subcommittees that have jurisdiction, Schakowsky and Cicilline requested that they add language prohibiting the implementation and enforcement of the Section 230-style provision in the USMCA and the U.S.-Japan deal, as well as any future trade agreement, by removing funding for that purpose. “There remain bipartisan concerns with Section 230 and it is critical Congress maintains its ability to potentially amend it in the future,” Schakowsky and Cicilline write.
In a recent Zoom event put on by the Prospect and the American Economic Liberties Project, Rep. Schakowsky said that U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer has “taken very seriously our concerns and spoken to me at some length on the matter.” However, she added, “Lighthizer likes to say this has nothing to do with national law, we can still do what we want. I think that is not really the case … I think there is no doubt it makes it harder to change the rules. So long as this remains USTR’s negotiating position we can’t have a substantive debate over how to reform Section 230.”
Including Section 230 in the USMCA further entrenched corporate power, taking an end run around Congressional lawmaking. While policymakers now express outrage and are writing legislation to scale it back, they’re the ones who enacted that end-run. And it’s going to be more difficult to change course as a result.