Steph Curry Sitting At Home During The Playoffs, Hating On Dame

[BBG]

That's the entire point.

But beyond that though, whatever help Dame has or hasn't had is irrelevant, when Steph has elevated those around him purely by his style of play and altruism (put Dray alongside Dame and he doesn't have the same role and effectiveness). Wiggins was a wasteman in Minny who nobody took seriously, then he went to GS and got the fumes off what Steph has been cookin' and the rest is history.

You'll find almost every single role player that has played alongside Steph has played their career-best ball. You can't say the same for Dame.

Dame doesn't create the magic that Steph does, otherwise, we would've seen some resemblance of it already. Dame is in similar vein to Kyrie, they're both buckets but not players who you can create a dynasty around. Steph is that player.

No different to Bron and Melo. One is a dope player who shone as an individual, but the other is a GOAT. Yeah, Melo might not have had the same support casts as Bron, but it doesn't matter even if he did because he wouldn't have had remotely the same success.

Still disingenuous because Curry ain't winning shyt with any of Dame's teams either. The fact you use these weak ass arguments yet want to completely ignore Dame's lack of help makes it blatantly obvious you sir, have an agenda.



Same can be said with Melo. Yes he's obviously no fukkin Lebron James but Lebron James ain't winning with them Denver/Knicks teams either. And don't tell me shyt about the supermax because I can name quite a few years that teams paid supermax and then proceeded to get rings.






My point is we have to be fair, taking everything into account in order to appropriately rate the players. So yes, while I agree with you that both LBJ and 30 are better than Melo and Dame, there needs to be nuance to the arguments so y'all don't look like a bunch of dishonest clowns trying to fulfill an agenda. There's enough of a gap between LBJ/Melo and Curry/Dame that you can give the inferior player all their due respect and LBJ/Curry will still dwarf their greatness in comparison

 

[Joe Sixpack]

 

[Harry B]

What an embarrassing thread

Coli came together for 41 one-stars though

I jack, I rob, I sin

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Still disingenuous because Curry ain't winning shyt with any of Dame's teams either. The fact you use these weak ass arguments yet want to completely ignore Dame's lack of help makes it blatantly obvious you sir, have an agenda.



Same can be said with Melo. Yes he's obviously no fukkin Lebron James but Lebron James ain't winning with them Denver/Knicks teams either. And don't tell me shyt about the supermax because I can name quite a few years that teams paid supermax and then proceeded to get rings.






My point is we have to be fair, taking everything into account in order to appropriately rate the players. So yes, while I agree with you that both LBJ and 30 are better than Melo and Dame, there needs to be nuance to the arguments so y'all don't look like a bunch of dishonest clowns trying to fulfill an agenda. There's enough of a gap between LBJ/Melo and Curry/Dame that you can give the inferior player all their due respect and LBJ/Curry will still dwarf their greatness in comparison

The problem with this is, the pushing of the agenda is coming from the folks who're trying to prop up Dame. Just look at the creation of this thread, it's centered around trying to bring down Steph. This has been a common theme over the better part of the last decade, where folks try to put inferior players over him.

Or do you seem to think folks are going out of their way to shyt on Dame to big up Steph?

Nobody would even be comparing Dame and Steph if clowns like the OP didn't make a thing about it.

Dame's perceived lack of help can be discussed without needlessly comparing his situation to Steph. They're not the same. Anyone that tries to use the argument bu-bu-but Steph has had better teammates than Dame is coming from a dishonest place.

 

[steph_harden]

That's the entire point.

But beyond that though, whatever help Dame has or hasn't had is irrelevant, when Steph has elevated those around him purely by his style of play and altruism (put Dray alongside Dame and he doesn't have the same role and effectiveness). Wiggins was a wasteman in Minny who nobody took seriously, then he went to GS and got the fumes off what Steph has been cookin' and the rest is history.

You'll find almost every single role player that has played alongside Steph has played their career-best ball. You can't say the same for Dame.

Dame doesn't create the magic that Steph does, otherwise, we would've seen some resemblance of it already. Dame is in similar vein to Kyrie, they're both buckets but not players who you can create a dynasty around. Steph is that player.

No different to Bron and Melo. One is a dope player who shone as an individual, but the other is a GOAT. Yeah, Melo might not have had the same support casts as Bron, but it doesn't matter even if he did because he wouldn't have had remotely the same success.

The fukk does that even mean

And nice narrative shift trying to make it seem like Steph all of a sudden plays with bums


Let’s see what he would have done if u were to drop him on that garbage Blazers squad. His injury prone ass wouldn’t have lasted 45 games carrying that team.

I mean where was that “magic” when Monta Ellis was on the team? He couldn’t even sniff the playoffs…

You Steph groupies are so threatened by Dame that u would say some ludicrous shyt like put Dame in the same sentence with a Kyrie fukking Irving. Even though Kyrie did hoe Steph’s ass out in every matchup so u might actually be on to something

 

[steph_harden]

Crazy how insecure these Steph Stans are. Out here bumping every Dame thread the min he has a good game. Why ya’ll so fixated on Dame if Steph is truly the best?

It’s a damn shame Dame didn’t have the good fortune of having a great team built around him but it’s his fault for not taking matters into his own hands.

He’s every bit as good as Steph but because he plays with shytty teammates he never gets to show who he really is on the big stage

 

[resistanze]

No one cares about these idiotic hypothetical arguments. Steph is top 10 all time and Lillard is borderline top 75, that's it and that's all.

 

[904Lurker]

A mod created this thread

 

[Draje]

Crazy how insecure these Steph Stans are. Out here bumping every Dame thread the min he has a good game. Why ya’ll so fixated on Dame if Steph is truly the best?

It’s a damn shame Dame didn’t have the good fortune of having a great team built around him but it’s his fault for not taking matters into his own hands.

He’s every bit as good as Steph but because he plays with shytty teammates he never gets to show who he really is on the big stage

Dame isn’t as good as Steph. It’s not even about teams or “talent”.

Steph’s off ball movement, motor, game management, and overall offensive versatility are better than Dames.

 

[xXMASHERXx]

Crazy how insecure these Steph Stans are. Out here bumping every Dame thread the min he has a good game. Why ya’ll so fixated on Dame if Steph is truly the best?

It’s a damn shame Dame didn’t have the good fortune of having a great team built around him but it’s his fault for not taking matters into his own hands.

He’s every bit as good as Steph but because he plays with shytty teammates he never gets to show who he really is on the big stage

 

[Ozymandeas]

Two things can be true, but once again nikkas are retarded on both sides.




Dame's best help he's ever had in the NBA has been CJ, LMA, and...Dinosaur Melo? I mean seriously after CJ and LMA nobody else in Dame's entire tenure comes to mind except garbage time ballers and mid journeymen. And even then, guys like CJ and LMA should be names that fluff out your list of help, they have no business being THE BEST TWO DUDES YOU'VE EVER PLAYED WITH IN YOUR LIFE.This isn't an opinion guys it's just a fact Dame has never had a contender-quality supporting cast.


AND



Unless you giving Dame the shoes from "Like Mike" he'll never be better than Curry. Sure he's had better nights than Curry here and there, but arguing who was better in 2020 was ridiculous; in 2023 it's time to seek help.

Yea. Both things are true. Only clowns like @Gil Scott-Heroin will act like there's no nuance. Every time he posts, I just remember that back in 2008, he wasn't even a Golden State fan.

I think Steph is at least a level or two above Dame. He's clearly shown that. But Dame didn't get the same support Steph did. If you plug Dame in Golden State from 2015 to 2023, even if Dame is a little less talented than Steph, he's winning at least two rings. Maybe three. The only one I don't see him winning is 2022 because I don't know if he could put the team on his back like Steph did throughout the WC playoffs. But the point is he would've won some rings in GS and we'd talk about Dame alot differently. Having Klay as your #2, Wiggins as your #3 and Dray being your enforcer is a massive upgrade. Then if you go back to the earlier era, you gotta add in Igoudala and Livingston. I won't mention the other guy that was there. And then the other side of the question is would Steph have created a dynasty in Portland IDK. Dame didn't have to be a team hopping fakkit like Bron but, he should've left Portland at least six seasons ago.

 

[xXMASHERXx]

This is why I say you guys disrespect Steph every time you do this. You guys realize that as much as Steph benefits from his teammates, they benefit from him as well. Wiggins was an afterthought in Minny and has found a solid role next to Steph. You guys talk about Steph fans are insecure but it's the Dame stans who constantly want to attach Dame to Steph's name. Even Dame finally had to admit it so why can't yall

 

[mastermind]

But Dame didn't get the same support Steph did. If you plug Dame in Golden State from 2015 to 2023, even if Dame is a little less talented than Steph, he's winning at least two rings. Maybe three.

And herein lies the issue with your post

 

[Ozymandeas]

And herein lies the issue with your post

Dame, KD, Klay and Dray are winning in 2017 and 2018. Stop it breugh

2015 is less likely. Which is why I said two rings definitely, maybe three. Bron would still be by himself in 2015 vs. Dame, Klay and Dray but I’m not sure they (GS) get there to begin with.

 

[xXMASHERXx]

Dame, KD, Klay and Dray are winning in 2017 and 2018. Stop it breugh

2015 is less likely. Which is why I said two rings definitely, maybe three. Bron would still be by himself in 2015 vs. Dame, Klay and Dray but I’m not sure they (GS) get there to begin with.

Some of us don't believe the results are the same if you replace Steph with Dame. Draymond definitely doesn't become the player he is if he's paired with Dame.