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Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was
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You ain't expose shyt but the fact you have 16 brain cells that are hanging on for dear life.
Haha.
Game 2: 2010 NBA Finals Game 2: Celtics vs Lakers, June 6, 2010 | Basketball-Reference.com
21 points on 8 for 20 shooting (that's 40%), 2 of 7 from 3 (that's 28%) with a -9 plus/minus. "Incredible".
Game 7: 2010 NBA Finals Game 7: Celtics vs Lakers, June 17, 2010 | Basketball-Reference.com
23 points on 6 for 24 shooting (that's 25%), 0 of 7 from 3 (that's ZERO%) with a neutral plus/minus, meaning Kobe literally didn't have an effect in the championship game.
Hold this L
It is when idiots like YOU continue to suggest that Kobe won those titles with no help.
You not running from these facts: Pau outscored the other team's best scorer. Kobe had help. Whine about it, cry about it-- KOBE HAD HELP.
Pau scored 130 points in that series, and Paul Pierce scored 126. These are Facts, fukk what you talking bout.
JUST LIKE I THOUGHT.. ANOTHER STAT GEEK WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE GAME BEYOND NUMBERS. PROBABLY DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE SERIES IN REAL TIME. IF U ACTUALLY WATCHED THOSE GAMES AND REALLY THINK KOBE HAD NO IMPACT, U ARE THE EPITOME OF A BASKETBALL DUNCE.
I LIKE HOW U TOTALLY SIDESTEPPED THE FACT THAT PAU WOULD AVERAGE 12 PPG PLAYING NEXT TO BRON LMAO
I ALSO LOVE HOW U BIG UP ODOM AND ARTEST AS SOME GAME CHANGERS WHEN THEY AVERAGED 7 AND 10 PPG ROFL
BRINGIN UP HOW LITTLE PAUL PIERCE SCORED AINT HELPIN U HERE.. THAT CELTIC OFFENSE WAS STIFLED DRASTICALLY BY THE LAKER DEFENSE, LED BY KOBE .. YOURE LITERALLY MAKIN ARGUMENTS FOR KOBE IMPACT BEYOND SCORING NUMBERS AND ARE TOO DUMB TO REALIZE IT.
The only person moving the goal posts is YOU.
Nikka, WE were talking about the 2010 Finals, one where Pau put up 19 and 12.
@Osmosis brought up the ****fact**** that WADE IN THE 2013 FINALS put up 19.6 PPG 4.6 APG and 4 RPG
Source: 2013 NBA Finals - Spurs vs. Heat | Basketball-Reference.com
This makes Pau's 2010 Finals performance equivalent to Wade's 2013 Finals performance. If you're going to go on about LeBron having help then you need to acknowledge that Kobe had help from Gasol, who, again, we have established was equivalent to Wade in 2013 Finals.
You're rounding up. If we're rounding up, Pau ALSO put up 20 in the 2010 Finals.
No matter how you cut this, Wade and Gasol were equals in their respective Finals run.
Just like you're rounding up Wade's numbers, we're rounding up Bynum, Odom and Fisher's 7.4, 7.6, and 8.6 to 10 PPG.
That gives Kobe 5 team mates in double figures. You ain't the only one that can play the rounding up game nikka
Miss me with the bullshyt. I'm a Laker fan going on 34 years. Kobe is not MY franchise.
And for the hundreth time-- Kobe's Stans are not him. You keep cosplaying as Kobe nikka, stop the LARPing-- when I smoke you in a debate, I'm not impugning on Kobe's legacy
You nikkas really think YOU are Kobe. Claiming me making fun of YOU is me shytting on Kobe is the lamest shyt I've ever seen. Go take a smoke break you fukking clown.
The only person moving the goal posts is YOU.
Nikka, WE were talking about the 2010 Finals, one where Pau put up 19 and 12.
@Osmosis brought up the ****fact**** that WADE IN THE 2013 FINALS put up 19.6 PPG 4.6 APG and 4 RPG
Source: 2013 NBA Finals - Spurs vs. Heat | Basketball-Reference.com
This makes Pau's 2010 Finals performance equivalent to Wade's 2013 Finals performance. If you're going to go on about LeBron having help then you need to acknowledge that Kobe had help from Gasol, who, again, we have established was equivalent to Wade in 2013 Finals.
You're rounding up. If we're rounding up, Pau ALSO put up 20 in the 2010 Finals.
No matter how you cut this, Wade and Gasol were equals in their respective Finals run.
Just like you're rounding up Wade's numbers, we're rounding up Bynum, Odom and Fisher's 7.4, 7.6, and 8.6 to 10 PPG.
That gives Kobe 5 team mates in double figures. You ain't the only one that can play the rounding up game nikka
Miss me with the bullshyt. I'm a Laker fan going on 34 years. Kobe is not MY franchise.
And for the hundreth time-- Kobe's Stans is not him. You keep cosplaying as Kobe nikka, stop the LARPing-- when I smoke you in a debate, I'm not impugning on Kobe's legacy
You nikkas really think YOU are Kobe. That's the lamest shyt I've ever seen.
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.. PAU PUT UP 19 (NOT 18.6) BUT WADE PUT UP 19.6 (NOT 20)
U NOT EVEN A GOOD ENOUGH DEBATOR TO HIDE YOUR AGENDA DRIVEN BIAS MUFUCCA!!
SEE THROUGH
YOU THE ONE WHO STARTED ROUNDING UP, SAYIN PAU PUT UP 19 LMAO….BUT WITOUT ROUNDING UP, LEBRON HAD 4 TEAMMATES SCORING DOUBLE FIGURES, AND KOBE ONLY HAD 2….
I KNOW THOSE FACTS HURT YOUR SOUL, BUT DEAL WIT IT.
YOU CANT EVEN SMOKE @Damnshow IN A DEBATE, LET ALONE ME… CHILL.
And you are a dishonest nikka that ignores what actually happened to push narratives. My basketball knowledge is VAST. You wouldn't know what to do with me in real life-- you are lucky we are on a message board where you got other quarter-wits here to dap your dumb ass posts.
I would run circles around you-- you only know how many ball hairs Kobe had on his nuts because you were so close. You couldn't sit at the same table with me when it comes to basketball
Plus minus is black and white. If you have a neutral plus minus, it means you didn't affect outcome of the game.
Seriously, rebut that: if you remove Kobe from that game and the players he matched in points, the Lakers still win that game. That's how plus and minus works-- it's a simple as simple can be and your dumb ass literally can't understand the concept.
Wrong-- the argument was about whether or not Kobe had help. You are so caught up in your fantasyland narratives that you can't understand Kobe couldn't beat the Cs by himself. That's literally the argument you spend your useless little life making, that Kobe beat the Magic and Cs by himself.
That's not how basketball works you dumb fukk-- this ain't the church league you play in with the sped kids. Other players matter, this is why LeBron couldn't beat that same Celtics team until he got Wade a player on the level or greater than Pau Gasol, a player that took that 42 win Laker team led by Kobe, to a championship contender.
That's hilarious-- Sccit is trying to call someone out for an agenda...
That's like the pot calling the kettle a pot
Because we should be rounding up. YOU are rounding the other players DOWN, by saying Kobe only had 2 double figure players. I'm only playing your game, except I'm far better than you at it.
Hahahahahaha.
And you are a dishonest nikka that ignores what actually happened to push narratives. My basketball knowledge is VAST. You wouldn't know what to do with me in real life-- you are lucky we are on a message board where you got other quarter-wits here to dap your dumb ass posts.
I would run circles around you-- you only know how many ball hairs Kobe had on his nuts because you were so close. You couldn't sit at the same table with me when it comes to basketball
Plus minus is black and white. If you have a neutral plus minus, it means you didn't affect outcome of the game.
Seriously, rebut that: if you remove Kobe from that game and the players he matched in points, the Lakers still win that game. That's how plus and minus works-- it's a simple as simple can be and your dumb ass literally can't understand the concept.
Wrong-- the argument was about whether or not Kobe had help. You are so caught up in your fantasyland narratives that you can't understand Kobe couldn't beat the Cs by himself. That's literally the argument you spend your useless little life making, that Kobe beat the Magic and Cs by himself.
That's not how basketball works you dumb fukk-- this ain't the church league you play in with the sped kids. Other players matter, this is why LeBron couldn't beat that same Celtics team until he got Wade a player on the level or greater than Pau Gasol, a player that took that 42 win Laker team led by Kobe, to a championship contender.
RELAX URKEL
U AINT RUNNIN CIRCLES ROUND NO ONE WIT YOUR PATHETIC NICK WRIGHT ANALYTIC ORIENTED TALKING POINTS. ALL U CAN DO IS SPEAK ON MATHEMATICS, BECAUSE U DONT UNDERSTAND THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT WRITTEN OUT FOR U IN NUMBERS. YOURE A SOULLESS CAC AT HEART. I SEE U…..
THE FACT THAT U DONT EVEN REALIZE AND WILL NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE ONLY REASON PAU WAS ABLE TO SCORE 18.6 PPG WAS DUE TO THE DEFENSE KOBE WAS SEEING (WIT KOBE LITERALLY SPOON FEEDING HIM) EXPOSED YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THATS WHY I KEEP EXPLAINING TO U (AND U KEEP IGNORING) HOW PAU WOULD AVERAGE 12 PPG PLAYIN WIT BRON.. KINDA LIKE HOW BOSH (A SUPERIOR SCORER TO PAU) DID IN THE 2013 FINALS (AGAINST A WEAKER DEFENSE).
YOUR ANALYTICAL PODCAST NERD SHIIT DONT WORK ON REAL ONES FOO.
DID KOBE HAVE HELP? OF COURSE! DID HE HAVE AS MUCH HELP AS BRON? HELL FUCCIN NO!! EVEN A SLURPER LIKE U SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADMIT THAT.
MAYBE NOW U CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MY REP IS SO LOW HERE.. I BEEN SHIITIN ON MUFUCCAZ LIKE THIS SINCE 2013. NOW U IN YA FEELINGS DEEP BECAUSE U NEVER GOT IT LIKE THIS. PRETTY SOON U GUNA BE LOBBYING FOR ME TO GET BANNED. I KNOW UR TYPE. ENJOY.
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That's hilarious-- Sccit is trying to call someone out for an agenda...
That's like the pot calling the kettle a pot
Because we should be rounding up. YOU are rounding the other players DOWN, by saying Kobe only had 2 double figure players. I'm only playing your game, except I'm far better than you at it.
Hahahahahaha.
HUH? IM NOT ROUNDING ANYTHING FOO
PAY ATTENTION
This you?
You might wanna chill on calling anyone anything patna.
Fam, you debate on the level of Skip Bayless, and a feminine one at that, coming at me with "feelings" and narratives. I hit you with facts, shyt you can't actually dispute.
There's a reason you get dapped by the consistently worst posters on this board, and the posters that are actually worth a damn agree with me. I only speak facts, you talk feelings.
Oh I know that idiots hate accepting factual information. That's why Flat Earthers say the images of the Earth are all CGI-- because they're too stupid to understand when they're receiving facts.
You know all about this.
Ya rep is low because you ignore facts to peddle bullshyt because you are a homer. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with you. Consider this my last post directed towards you. We not gonna go back and forth on this site no more because I can write a dissertation about the sky being blue and your monkey ass will say "Nah, Kobe said it was yellow, so therefore it was yellow".
Can't debate nikkas like you, because you don't accept facts. It's like talking to a pigeon: you don't understand human language. Peace.
This you?
You might wanna chill on calling anyone anything patna.
Fam, you debate on the level of Skip Bayless, and a feminine one at that, coming at me with "feelings" and narratives. I hit you with facts, shyt you can't actually dispute.
There's a reason you get dapped by the consistently worst posters on this board, and the posters that are actually worth a damn agree with me. I only speak facts, you talk feelings.
Oh I know that idiots hate accepting factual information. That's why Flat Earthers say the images of the Earth are all CGI-- because they're too stupid to understand when they're receiving facts.
You know all about this.
Ya rep is low because you ignore facts to peddle bullshyt because you are a homer. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with you. Consider this my last post directed towards you. We not gonna go back and forth on this site no more because I can write a dissertation about the sky being blue and your monkey ass will say "Nah, Kobe said it was yellow, so therefore it was yellow".
Can't debate nikkas like you, because you don't accept facts. It's like talking to a pigeon: you don't understand human language. Peace.
YOU POST A HANDSOME PIC OF ME LOOKIN SUAVE AND U THINK U GOT SOMETHIN?
THIS IS ME IN EFFECT:
YOU BETTER GET TO KNOW ME HOMIE.. I AINT WHAT U USED TO ON YOUR GEEK PODCAST BS, THIS REAL BASKETBALL TALK WIT ENTHUSIASTS. SOMETHIN U MAY NOT BE ACCUSTOMED TO.
HAVE U PLAYED ORGANIZED BALL ON ANY LEVEL?
I SOMEHOW DOUBT IT.
IT HAS NOTHIN TO DO WIT “CANT ACCEPT FACTS”, BECAUSE I POSTED PLENTY FACTS N U SIDESTEPPED IT.
ALL GOOD THO, I EXPECTED U TO DUCK OUT AFTER THE WAY U GOT SONNED IN THIS THREAD. PRETTY SOON U GUNA CLAIM TO HAVE ME ON IGNORE TOO. IT NEVER FAILS.
Hahahaha
So, what you saying is that you DON'T look like a nerd here, while you calling nikkas nerds?
"Birdman" is a local legend in these Inglewood streets, lil meat. You better ask somebody lol
Stick to talking basketball...
Sccit, I sonned you in every thread I spoke to you. Maybe one day when you re-read these threads and you are honest with yourself, you will realize that, but I doubt it.
But I am not going to put you on ignore, I'm just not going to argue basketball facts with you no more. You say Bron had help, and when @Osmosis and I point out to you that Gasol and Wade were practically identical, you pretended you ain't see that and continued with your bullshyt.
You are only interested in narratives; I'm interested in what actually happened, and what actually happened got put down as data. Anyone arguing against data is a liar. Data matters; it is the basis of human civilization, and literally how our infrastructure works.
Can data be manipulated? Absolutely-- it's what you've been doing. We have only presented that data, saying "here is what happened". You want to manipulate data to make your favorite player look better than he was.
I don't do that, and this is why I don't fukk with YOU.
So like I said, consider that last post my last towards you regarding basketball. You're not educated enough for me, and I don't debate feelings.
Hahahaha
So, what you saying is that you DON'T look like a nerd here, while you calling nikkas nerds?
"Birdman" is a local legend in these Inglewood streets, lil meat. You better ask somebody lol
Stick to talking basketball...
Sccit, I sonned you in every thread I spoke to you. Maybe one day when you re-read these threads and you are honest with yourself, you will realize that, but I doubt it.
But I am not going to put you on ignore, I'm just not going to argue basketball facts with you no more. You say Bron had help, and when @Osmosis and I point out to you that Gasol and Wade were practically identical, you pretended you ain't see that and continued with your bullshyt.
You are only interested in narratives; I'm interested in what actually happened, and what actually happened got put down as data. Anyone arguing against data is a liar. Data matters; it is the basis of human civilization, and literally how our infrastructure works.
Can data be manipulated? Absolutely-- it's what you've been doing. We have only presented that data, saying "here is what happened". You want to manipulate data to make your favorite player look better than he was.
I don't do that, and this is why I don't fukk with YOU.
So like I said, consider that last post my last towards you regarding basketball. You're not educated enough for me, and I don't debate feelings.
U TRYIN TOO HARD HOMIE
YOUR LAST POST TO ME PART 2 LMAO - THE L’S JUST KEEP PILIN UP FOR U, DONT THEY?
YES BRON HAD HELP.. KOBE HAD HELP TOO .. BRON HAD MORE ….. AGAIN, U GUNA IGNORE THE FACT THAT I SAID THAT (AND PROVIDED PROOF) SO THAT U CAN CONTINUE SLURPIN YOUR DADDY UNDER THE GUISE OF BEIN “MORE EDUCATED”. U AINT SLICK. U GOT RUN OFF THIS MUFUCCA QUICK.. AFTER PUFFIN UP YOUR CHEST TALKIN BOUT “IMA BE ON YOUR HEAD!!!” .. U FELL BACK LIKE I SUGGESTED BECAUSE U COULDNT HANDLE THE HEAT COMIN YA WAY. ITS ALL GOOD MAYN. U NOT GUNA SAY IT HERE BUT ME N U BOTH KNO WHAT TIME IT IS.. HAVE FUN GOIN BACK TO DEBATING CASUALS WHO POSE NO CHALLENGE.
And for the record, THIS is the nikka that just called me a "Cac"
An actual White/White Adjacent nikka on a Black site that hangs around Black people so he thinks he's Black.
Nikka we just tolerating you.
This is actually me:
Watch your fukking mouth.
And for the record, THIS is the nikka that just called me a "Cac"
An actual White/White Adjacent nikka on a Black site that hangs around Black people so he thinks he's Black.
Nikka we just tolerating you.
This is actually me:
Watch your fukking mouth.
YOUR LAST POST TO ME PART 3…YEA, U HEATED FAM LMAO
FOR THE RECORD, IM MIDDLE-EASTERN .. AND I NEVER SAID U A CAC, I SAID U RELY ON ANALYTICAL DATA LIKE CACS.
ONE CAN BE CACISH WITOUT BEIN AN ACTUAL CAC.
YOUR LAST POST TO ME PART 3…YEA, U HEATED FAM LMAO
FOR THE RECORD, IM MIDDLE-EASTERN .. AND I NEVER SAID U A CAC, I SAID U RELY ON ANALYTICAL DATA LIKE CACS.
ONE CAN BE CACISH WITOUT BEIN AN ACTUAL CAC.
I said that was my last post about *basketball* with you. Learn to read. We can chop it up about anything else, but the moment you mention basketball, I'm checking out.
And you just a White with a lil sand on em. You still passing for white out here so you the real "cac".
I'd slap you for saying some dumb shyt like that to me, don't play with me bruh