Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was

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Kobe was an elite defender like 5 years, mostly in his younger years.

And who cares? You're using "Oh, his team was good do of course he was more efficient" like Shaq wasn't a big reason that Kobe could do what he wanted in those final stats you threw out. Pretty sure you were o e of those idiots who said the 2001 Lakers were a GOAT team with one of the most dominant forces of all time but does that take away from Kibe's numbers?

Even when the league was watered down, Kobe never sniffed the kind of efficiency Curry is hitting at. MJ was hyper efficient and hitting 60% TS so why can't Kobe? Lebron and Durant did it. Multiple other ATG did it but Kine never got close.

And no, Kobe's defensive advantage isn't better than Curry's efficiency. No dumbass alive would take jimmy Butler over Curry because his defensive advantage. Curry is on a different planet of efficiency.,
good lord. this dude just compared prime Kobe to Jimmy Butler. This is where you stat whores fall short. The difference between shooting 45% and 50% is like 1-2 missed shots. If your saying that a couple missed shots outweight the ability for a player to play great individual defense. I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Prime Kobe shytted on Prime Wade repeatedly, who is 10x the defensive player Curry was.

Be dumb, brehs :mjlol:

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:francis:

Do you understand basketball lingo, breh?

I said Kobe couldn't check Nash in the playoffs. Nash pretty much shyt all over the Lakers after snatching Prime Kobe's MVPs and was all but unstoppable.

Kobe couldn't stop Nash from getting any shot he wanted so how the hell is he shutting Curry down on defense?
 

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Prime Kobe shytted on Prime Wade repeatedly, who is 10x the defensive player Curry was.

Be dumb, brehs :mjlol:

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:francis:

Do you understand basketball lingo, breh?

I said Kobe couldn't check Nash in the playoffs. Nash pretty much shyt all over the Lakers after snatching Prime Kobe's MVPs and was all but unstoppable.

Kobe couldn't stop Nash from getting any shot he wanted so how the hell is he shutting Curry down on defense?

nope. I watched every Kobe game in 06. Neither Curry or Durant were scoring that volume of points and literally beating teams by themselves like Kobe was. (with a supporting cast of bums. picture literally being the only offensive option on your team)

and Kobe was playing high level defense as well, just a better overall player

They were scoring on similar volume on much higher efficiency. Post the stats of that year and let's compare.


Again, post the scoring numbers of Kobe's championship runs and tell me which season is better. Kobe has slightly higher PPG but drastically lower efficiency.
 

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Again, post the scoring numbers of Kobe's championship runs and tell me which season is better. Kobe has slightly higher PPG but drastically lower efficiency.

Better D against better defensive teams with less talent around him and was FMVP:russell:
 

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good lord. this dude just compared prime Kobe to Jimmy Butler. This is where you stat whores fall short. The difference between shooting 45% and 50% is like 1-2 missed shots. If your saying that a couple missed shots outweight the ability for a player to play great individual defense. I don't know what to tell you.

Point was that I don't give a fukk about any "two way benefits" when Curry is a GOAT-tier offensive talent. And yeah, the difference between Kobe's 35 PPG season and Curry's 30 season is 7 fukking FGA.

That's a huge difference in possessions and attempts yet you're trying to act like their difference in efficiency is minor especially when you see that Curry is playing 6 less minutes a game, throwing up way less attempts, and doing it on much higher efficiency isn't a big deal.

The difference between Curry and Kobe's effiency and volume is as big as the difference between someone like Allen Iverson and PRIME MJ. It's that fukking huge. Curry's ability to create for himself, off the dribble, and from 35 out as consistently as he does shyts ALL over Kobe's better post game.
 

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Better D against better defensive teams with less talent around him and was FMVP:russell:

:mjlol:

Which team did Kobe go against that these Warriors wouldn't beat in 7 game series?

Those Deron William led Jazz? The Rockets with 22 year Kyle Lowry, coming off the bench behind Aaron Brooks? 32 year old Chauncey and the Nuggets?

Those Magic that were anchored by a center that covered up for bad perimeter defenders so would be a horrible matchup against the Warriors?

Or you talking about the defensive powerhouse that was the 2009 Jazz or Phoenix Suns? Maybe the 21 year old duo of Westbrook and Durant could stop these Warriors from shytting in them in 5 :russ:

These GSW would steamroll through those playoffs and Curry would make guys like Aaron fukking Brooks, Deron Williams, and 22 year old Westbrook his bytch. Westbrook can't even guard Curry now :mjlol:
 

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Which team did Kobe go against that these Warriors wouldn't beat in 7 game series?

The Warriors? We are talking Kobe vs Curry strictly.

Curry on the 08, 09 and 10 Lakers in place of Kobe doesn't even make the NBA finals :laff:

Meanwhile, Kobe with Draymond and Iggy as his defensive anchors and Klay as his side kick is winning multiple rings.
 

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Act like the difference between MJ and Iverson's efficiency, on similar volume, is somehow not a big advantage.

30 on 67% TS shyts on any scoring season Kobe has despite playing in less minutes than Kobe did.

Any season that Kobe has where he attempted as few shots as Curry did this season (20 FGA), he always scores less. When Curry and Kobe shoot the same volume, Curry ALWAYS scores more. Curry is a better scorer.
 

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Act like the difference between MJ and Iverson's efficiency, on similar volume, is somehow not a big advantage.

Your peanut sized brain doesn't seem to comprehend that Curry's efficiency is in part due to the system and pieces around him:pachaha:

And Curry having 2 seasons at the age of 28 that are even comparable to Kobe doesn't make him a better scorer or more efficient, it means he peaked higher in a very small window but was on average well below Kobe :dead:
 

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The Warriors? We are talking Kobe vs Curry strictly.

Curry on the 08, 09 and 10 Lakers in place of Kobe doesn't even make the NBA finals :laff:

Meanwhile, Kobe with Draymond and Iggy as his defensive anchors and Klay as his side kick is winning multiple rings.

Curry, on those teams, probably three peats and doesn't lose to those Celtics. Which one of those point guards is stopping Curry? He'd smoke every single one of those teams.

Kobe takes too many stupid shots and requires the ball in his hand more than Curry who is also just as deadly off-ball. They'd still probably be championship favorites but they wouldn't be a GOAT-tier offense because "Kobe post up mid-range" isn't nearly as efficient or as deadly as Curry's infinite range, quick trigger, and shooting ability.
 

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Imagine Curry trying to score against the Celtics with no shooters to stretch the D out or pass to and imagine him trying to chase around Allen or body up Pierce in the mid post in a defensive oriented, slow paced game with no transition opportunities and a blanketed three point line :dead:
 
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