No you didn't give me context. You posted a YouTube video.
The
context is the video - it's right there for you to see for yourself in all its glory. Did you even bother to watch it?
I never said magic was without blame. I said curry isn't playing up to his caliber in the finals. His numbers are well below his season avg is what I said.
Your point is what exactly?
You then went to YouTube and said well magic stink in the 85 finals. And I posted his numbers which were very good. I never said he didn't choke or anything of the sort.
You still don't get it.
Vinnie Johnson was not a pg. Did he run some plays of course what guard doesn't. That was Isiah team from the time he was drafted until the time he left. Saying Vinnie helped run the team is like saying robert horry helped shaq in the post.
He was a combo guard - I wouldn't say he wasn't a PG. Especially before Dumars was drafted when the Pistons needed a player to run the point (when Zeke was on the bench), Vinnie was that guy. You're failing to see the point in which I'm bringing up Vinnie
helping run the offense and acting as a playmaker.
Bill laimbeer had zero post game and was not taking anybody off the dribble. Tell me how he was creating his own shot since you know it all. Your bringing his name up because you looked at his stats and you said ow he scored 17ppg he must've been some type of offensive force.
- He had good touch on the inside whether it was a basic hook shot or working the baseline for a layup (he wasn't breaking down players with counters but he knew how to get his shot off if needed to down low)
- He could score on OREB when the defense has already recovered to contest his shot after putting the ball on the floor (he wasn't on his Reggie Evans shyt)
- He could put the ball on the floor in the low post and create space for himself to get off a jumpshot (one of his go-to actions)
- He had great ball control, BBIQ, and awareness - he knew how to go straight to work after sealing off his defender and getting the ball
Like I said he was no McHale (by any stretch of the imagination) but he had the shooting touch, IQ and finishing ability to create his own.
I never said Isiah didn't have help, but he was the unquestioned leader and driving force of the pistons. He was thee playmaker thee table setter for the Pistons. Able to score 20 a game and get plenty of assists and run the team.
I never once argued against this.
But you want to make up some narrative that Tripuka and Vinnie Johnson was out there being playmakers and Bill laimbeer was out there taking people off the dribble and getting his own shot.
Again, I never once argued this either. Stop being dense. I simply highlighted the roles in which they had on offense - Zeke wasn't doing everything by himself nor was he the only player the defense focused on (like
@Newzz was insinuating).
Warriors are a different team and are successful how they play. We get it you think curry is better than Isiah. But you don't have to attempt to correlate piston players to warrior players.
I'm correlating the margins in which match their skillsets (for their respective eras) - not just their roles on the team. You're having a hard time comprehending this.
Draymond is the table setter for the Warriors.
Curry is the table setter and Draymond is the go-between man. Curry is the main cog in the machine. See now this is the problem and why I've been trying to normalize both Zeke and Curry here, because there seems to be this misconception that Curry is only good as he is because he's not running the offense the same as Zeke did. He did that shyt under Jackson, where as now the scheme is fundamentally better because of the constant ball movement. Which is why it's important to look at his skillset and not the direct role he has in the offense (specifically playmaking).
That doesn't mean you have to say look Tripuka and Vinnie Johnson also ran the Pistons.
Look Tripuka and Bill laimbeer scored these points. He's like klay and laimbeer was a offensive force.
SMH.
There's no reasoning with some of y'all cats.
