He pulled a 3-1 by himself or he had help?
Steph Curry is a legit MVP Candidate
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He pulled a 3-1 by himself or he had help?
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Right now Embiid and Jokic are the top two MVP candidates with Steph, Bron and PG13 rounding out the top 5.
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everyone has help it's just about the quality of support
he for sure was responsible for the heavy lifting we all watched that
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Refs had a lot to do with that especially after Bron got up on the podium dry snitching about another man calling him a bytch
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To me, league MVPs being awarded based on regular season play is as antiquated as conferences and divisions.
Apparently, this is a hot take, because it starts arguments everywhere I bring it up, but look at this past NFL season.
Aaron Rodgers won the MVP and got served that work in the conference championship game.
Pat and Brady faced off in the Super Bowl. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now, this NFL season will always be about the Brady/Mahomes Super Bowl. One of them should be the MVP. I'd vote Mahomes, but I'd be fine with Brady winning it.
Last year in the NBA, Giannis bytched out in the second round. Choked, just like the year before. Jimmy Butler took an unheralded Heat team to the championship game, and Bron got another ring. Either one of those 2 should win it.
I don't care about stats, context, any of that. Either you're a player on a team whos game is elevated to the point that you can get your squad to a championship, or you're not.
I'm a Bills fan. Josh Allen shyt the bed in the conference finals, but he got MVP votes and Brady, who switched teams, called his shot, and won a championship with a new squad, got no votes.
Like, how the fukk does Steve Nash have 2! (almost 3!) MVPs, and Kobe has 1. 1! Smh. Are you kidding me. Kobe wasn't the most valuable player in the league in 2009 when the Lakers beat the Magic in the finals? Or the next year when they beat the Celtics? For real? You're telling me, when the purple and gold confetti started falling, the Lakers were officially back to back champions, beat the hated celtics, and Kobe's holding up the L-O-B and finals MVP trophies, your first thought, or your memory of that moment is, a decade later
"yup, that was Derrick Rose's year."
You know and I know you don't remember who won it that year, and you know its foolish as shyt to look back on everything that happens and say that man was MVP over Kobe.
Rename the shyt "regular season best in show" and let you chatty kathy's debate ppg and systems, while the entire time it's just an excuse for journalists to set their narratives going into the playoffs and beyond. It's nothing more than media manipulation of some shyt that doesn't need to be rocket science. Ask me right now, whos the best player in the league? "Idk, Bron, maybe KD, let's see what they do on the biggest stage."
But the reply is,
we don't count games that matter when determining who the best players are. This is an award for who brings it the hardest on Tuesday nights in December.
oh word, so the teams that are doing the best obviously have a roster with players who are the most valuable, because they're winning games and beating players who would also be considered for this award, so lets just give it to the best player on the best team?
actually, we don't count wins and losses either, this is about performance.
Oh, ok, that makes sense, let's see here *checks stats* Beal's dropping 33 a game, a full 4 ppg higher than second place, lets crown him
no, no, those stats are inflated because he's on a bad team. You can't go by stats either.
Oh, ok. So we don't use stats or wins and losses, what do we use.
We wait til Goldstein and Silverman tell us who's in the running sometime around April, and then we argue about it on here. We don't really know what the parameters are, we're just buying their narrative.
Apparently, this is a hot take, because it starts arguments everywhere I bring it up, but look at this past NFL season.
Aaron Rodgers won the MVP and got served that work in the conference championship game.
Pat and Brady faced off in the Super Bowl. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now, this NFL season will always be about the Brady/Mahomes Super Bowl. One of them should be the MVP. I'd vote Mahomes, but I'd be fine with Brady winning it.
Last year in the NBA, Giannis bytched out in the second round. Choked, just like the year before. Jimmy Butler took an unheralded Heat team to the championship game, and Bron got another ring. Either one of those 2 should win it.
I don't care about stats, context, any of that. Either you're a player on a team whos game is elevated to the point that you can get your squad to a championship, or you're not.
I'm a Bills fan. Josh Allen shyt the bed in the conference finals, but he got MVP votes and Brady, who switched teams, called his shot, and won a championship with a new squad, got no votes.
Like, how the fukk does Steve Nash have 2! (almost 3!) MVPs, and Kobe has 1. 1! Smh. Are you kidding me. Kobe wasn't the most valuable player in the league in 2009 when the Lakers beat the Magic in the finals? Or the next year when they beat the Celtics? For real? You're telling me, when the purple and gold confetti started falling, the Lakers were officially back to back champions, beat the hated celtics, and Kobe's holding up the L-O-B and finals MVP trophies, your first thought, or your memory of that moment is, a decade later
"yup, that was Derrick Rose's year."
You know and I know you don't remember who won it that year, and you know its foolish as shyt to look back on everything that happens and say that man was MVP over Kobe.
Rename the shyt "regular season best in show" and let you chatty kathy's debate ppg and systems, while the entire time it's just an excuse for journalists to set their narratives going into the playoffs and beyond. It's nothing more than media manipulation of some shyt that doesn't need to be rocket science. Ask me right now, whos the best player in the league? "Idk, Bron, maybe KD, let's see what they do on the biggest stage."
But the reply is,
we don't count games that matter when determining who the best players are. This is an award for who brings it the hardest on Tuesday nights in December.oh word, so the teams that are doing the best obviously have a roster with players who are the most valuable, because they're winning games and beating players who would also be considered for this award, so lets just give it to the best player on the best team?actually, we don't count wins and losses either, this is about performance.Oh, ok, that makes sense, let's see here *checks stats* Beal's dropping 33 a game, a full 4 ppg higher than second place, lets crown him no, no, those stats are inflated because he's on a bad team. You can't go by stats either. Oh, ok. So we don't use stats or wins and losses, what do we use. We wait til Goldstein and Silverman tell us who's in the running sometime around April, and then we argue about it on here. We don't really know what the parameters are, we're just buying their narrative.
Definitely. shyt is so topsy turvy this year. Denver hasn't been as good as expected. Nets been a rollercoaster. Giannis ain't getting 3 in a row and the Bucks aren't doing what they've been doing that last couple years. Embiid is up there. Bron is up there. No one on the Jazz is gonna get it. Clips would have to really pulll away for Kawhi to get it. So Steph is right there.
We still acting like Draymond didn't accumulate a bunch of unnecessary techs? It's been 5 years. KD has come and gone. We can acknowledge Dray was on some other shyt during those playoffs and it cost his team. It wasn't the league
or Bron telling, it was him being extra for no reason repeatedly.
We still acting like Draymond didn't accumulate a bunch of unnecessary techs? It's been 5 years. KD has come and gone. We can acknowledge Dray was on some other shyt during those playoffs and it cost his team. It wasn't the league
or Bron telling, it was him being extra for no reason repeatedly.
So Bron didn’t initiate the scuffle with Dray that lead to the retro tech? Obviously the refs didn’t think it was tech worthy but the league stepped in to affect the outcome right? Keep glossing over those factsDefinitely. shyt is so topsy turvy this year. Denver hasn't been as good as expected. Nets been a rollercoaster. Giannis ain't getting 3 in a row and the Bucks aren't doing what they've been doing that last couple years. Embiid is up there. Bron is up there. No one on the Jazz is gonna get it. Clips would have to really pulll away for Kawhi to get it. So Steph is right there.
We still acting like Draymond didn't accumulate a bunch of unnecessary techs? It's been 5 years. KD has come and gone. We can acknowledge Dray was on some other shyt during those playoffs and it cost his team. It wasn't the league
Actually he didn't. Dray ran 25 feet just to get in his face and talk shyt at the end of a blowout. Dray flopped in this situation for some reason and put himself in position for the walkover. And still, none of this matters if he hadn't gone around nut kicking, tackling, and DDTing nikkas throughout the west playoffs.
Edit: I went back to look at it again. My recollection wasn't 100% accurate
. However, the part about Draymond flopping was. And of course the part about him accumulating the Ts for no reason was as well.
Actually he didn't. Dray ran 25 feet just to get in his face and talk shyt at the end of a blowout. Dray flopped in this situation for some reason and put himself in position for the walkover. And still, none of this matters if he hadn't gone around nut kicking, tackling, and DDTing nikkas throughout the west playoffs.
Edit: I went back to look at it again. My recollection wasn't 100% accurate
He's a contender but the Warriors overall aren't good enough for him to finish in the top 3. As of now the media has decided that Bron Embid and Joker are the front runners. They may try to squeeze Kawhi or PG3 in there if the Clippers finish with the best record in the league.
Nuggets are right there with the Warriors record wise and they were supposed to be a top team in the west. Jokic has no argument to be over Stephy. Clippers have to really distance themselves for one of them to get it. If they finish a game ahead of the Lakers, Bron still got the edge. Warriors get up to that 4/5 range, which is doable and he has a legit shot.
