Splash Brothers vs Trash Brothers official game thread

[Full Measures]

You're not saying shyt in this post to refute the evidence in which I brought against you.

Answer the fukkin question. Draymond is 32% on his career. Josh is 31%. If you claim Green is a good shooter then Smith must be a good shooter too right?

Or is the threshold 32% and higher for good shooters?

And I thought the vid was of a summer league game with a similar thumbnail. I was wrong on that

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Since you consider Draymond such a great three point shooter, do you also consider Smith to be one as well? Or is the threshold for being a great three point shooter being able to shoot 32% and above?

Answer the fukkin question. Draymond is 32% on his career. Josh is 31%. If you claim Green is a good shooter then Smith must be a good shooter too right?

Or is the threshold 32% and higher for good shooters?

And I thought the vid was of a summer league game with a similar thumbnail. I was wrong on that

I seen you changed it from 'great 3-pt shooter' to 'good 3-pt shooter', after I NEVER said Draymond was a great or good 3-pt shooter in reply to you in this thread - just that you were WRONG about saying he couldn't shoot threes (like Bass couldn't).

This has absolutely got NOTHING to do with Josh Smith, or if Draymond is a good or great 3-pt shooter. STOP MOVING THE GOAL-POSTS. This is about you comparing Brandon Bass' 3-pt shooting ability to Draymond Green's - which you were wrong about - hence me posting the stats.

Bass can't shoot 3's.

Neither can Draymond Green

Draymond is taking 3.8 threes a game this season and is hitting them at 41%. Brandon Bass' best 3-pt season is only 0.4 threes a game, completing them at 28%.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Seriously @Full Measures do you have a reading comprehension problem or are you ignorant to how many times you move the goalposts?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I know. He's so obviously wrong and what's worse is that he refuses to admit he's wrong about something

At least I'll admit when I'm wrong

Another thing too - how can I be "so obviously wrong" about saying that Mudiay and Wall have similarities in their games - when I gave you opinions of other posters AND scouting reports that COMPARE Muiday to Wall. How the fukk can I be "so obviously wrong"? How does that even make any sense?

I'll post them again since you have a hard time remembering -

Mudiay? He's nice too. Hes very similar to John wall

See people comparing Mudiay to Westbrook, but he plays a little more like Wall. Same inconsistency too, jumpshot.

First of all i'm throwed as fukk off the henny right now but that's not important.

Let's discuss the best point guard in the 2015 draft this year: Emmanuel Mudiay.

Mudiay possess the athleticism that's highly sought after in a point guard. In the video below, you will see some passes other point guards are unable to make because of lack of athleticism.

He has a very high ball IQ, he knows when to look for his shot or when to find his teammates. The balance between this dynamic is very important.

Right now he can get whatever shot he wants. He doesn't need a screen to get to the rack and when he gets to the rack he's finding shooters in the corner like a point gawd we all know today: Johnathan Hildred Wall.

Mudiay LITERALLY plays the game EXACTLY the same as John Wall. I think Mudiay will become "great" sooner than Wall did and will probably have a better career. Idk though, but the way he moves around the pick, finishes at the basket, passes across the baseline, ect. If there was just a silouette playing, we all would think it was Wall

Mudiay is much more of a point guard than y'all might think. He's more John Wall than Westbrook/Wade

Yea,I dont get the Mudiay hate,dude is 6'5 200 ultra athletic and can pass,basically John Wall all over again,minus the crazy end to end speed

Here's scouting reports/views comparing him to Wall:
Emmanuel Mudiay | NBADraft.net

NBA Draft 2015 Scouting Profile: Emmanuel Mudiay
Emmanuel Mudiay | Dean On Draft
Emmanuel Mudiay: The NBA Draft's mystery man is a top-6 pick
Elite eight: Top prospects in 2015 NBA draft – OneManFastBreak

So please tell me, how can I be "so obviously wrong" about comparing Mudiay to Wall when other people have done the same, and you haven't provided any statistical data or opinions of others that contradict what I posted.

 

[MJ Truth]

@MJ Truth did you just go through all my posts hoping to get a win. You sound like a woman scored right about now.

You are the one begging for my attention though. Get off my dikk.

 

[labelplant]

He will obv improve as he gets older and works on his skills but I just feel like he is sooo bad that he will never improve enough to be an all star level player. He makes some OF the best passes I've seen this season but he also consistently misses open shooters/cutters.
Everyone improves from when they are 19/20 to when they get to 27/28 obv.
But you can only improve so much. Mudiay is so bad by such a wide margin that it makes me doubt him.
That said you never know with these things.
When Kawhi was a 6"4 PF at King High I never in my life would've guessed he'd shoot 50% 3 in the NBA.
That's why the draft is such a crapshoot. No matter how well you know bball and how much you watch and analyze, you never know. Mudiay clearly passes the eye test but my final conclusion is that the skill level just isn't there.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You are the one begging for my attention though. Get off my dikk.

You're searching for past posts of mine, yet I'm the one begging for attention.

 

[MJ Truth]

You're searching for past posts of mine, yet I'm the one begging for attention.

I'll put you on that ignore list, your thirst is ridiculous at this point.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He will obv improve as he gets older and works on his skills but I just feel like he is sooo bad that he will never improve enough to be an all star level player. He makes some OF the best passes I've seen this season but he also consistently misses open shooters/cutters.
Everyone improves from when they are 19/20 to when they get to 27/28 obv.
But you can only improve so much. Mudiay is so bad by such a wide margin that it makes me doubt him.
That said you never know with these things.
When Kawhi was a 6"4 PF at King High I never in my life would've guessed he'd shoot 50% 3 in the NBA.
That's why the draft is such a crapshoot. No matter how well you know bball and how much you watch and analyze, you never know. Mudiay clearly passes the eye test but my final conclusion is that the skill level just isn't there.

As most rookie PGs do. shyt Wall was exactly the same during his rookie season. He'd make a lot of highlight passes, but wouldn't make the easiest passes to wide open players. I mean shyt if you're critique of him is not finding open shooters/cutters but still praising him for making some of the best passes you've seen this season - surely it's going to be a lot easier for him to make those EASY passes to open players when he adjusts to the pace and play of the league.

I don't know where you're getting this lack of a skillset from - besides his shooting which was always going to be an issue coming into the league - he's got one of the best skillsets of any guard in his class. The main thing that has been holding him back in his first 20 games is his confidence and being aggressive when he needs to be. He can basically get any shot that he wants; his size, craftiness, athleticism and ball-handling is one of the main reasons he averaged 7+ drives a game before he was injured.

The mental side of things is probably the biggest cause of concern (which again will come in time as he learns and adjusts), not his skillset.

 

[labelplant]

As most rookie PGs do. shyt Wall was exactly the same during his rookie season. He'd make a lot of highlight passes, but wouldn't make the easiest passes to wide open players. I mean shyt if you're critique of him is not finding open shooters/cutters but still praising him for making some of the best passes you've seen this season - surely it's going to be a lot easier for him to make those EASY passes to open players when he adjusts to the pace and play of the league.

I don't know where you're getting this lack of a skillset from - besides his shooting which was always going to be an issue coming into the league - he's got one of the best skillsets of any guard in his class. The main thing that has been holding him back in his first 20 games is his confidence and being aggressive when he needs to be. He can basically get any shot that he wants; his size, craftiness, athleticism and ball-handling is one of the main reasons he averaged 7+ drives a game before he was injured.

The mental side of things is probably the biggest cause of concern (which again will come in time as he learns and adjusts), not his skillset.

I just feel his shooting is so bad and even close range shots are a prob. I just don't think he has it in him to improve enough to be a competent scorer. And especially in today's league if you can'tshoot at all, it's an issue.
Russ, wall and rose were pretty bad as rookies shooting the ball but I looked at the numbers for all 4 players through their team's first 36 games.
Here is what I got
John Wall
32-102 .314 (2pt 15 feet or more)
80-162 .494 (15 feet or less)
19-56 .339 (Threes)
Russell Westbrook
22-68 .324 (2pt 15 feet or more)
137-306 .448 (15 feet or less)
16-47 .340 (Threes)
Derrick Rose
69-165 .418 (2pt 15 feet or more)
165-321 .514 (15 feet or less)
14-39 .359 (Threes)
Emmanuel Mudiay
18-73 .247 (2pt FG 15 feet or more)
56-156 .359 (15 feet or less)
18-71 .254 (Threes)


So as you Can see.. closer to the rim, three point shooting, midrange. Mudiay is the worst in all 3...


Here is Ricky Rubios rookie season. He was injured half the year and only played 41 games.
67-183 .366 (15 feet or less)
40-112 .357 (2pt 15 feet or more)
32-93 .344 (Threes)

So Rubio was actually 21 so a little older than Mudiay but similar numbers
Actually shot better on 3s and close shots but slighlty worse on mid range.

 

[Gangstar8]

As most rookie PGs do. shyt Wall was exactly the same during his rookie season. He'd make a lot of highlight passes, but wouldn't make the easiest passes to wide open players. I mean shyt if you're critique of him is not finding open shooters/cutters but still praising him for making some of the best passes you've seen this season - surely it's going to be a lot easier for him to make those EASY passes to open players when he adjusts to the pace and play of the league.

I don't know where you're getting this lack of a skillset from - besides his shooting which was always going to be an issue coming into the league - he's got one of the best skillsets of any guard in his class. The main thing that has been holding him back in his first 20 games is his confidence and being aggressive when he needs to be. He can basically get any shot that he wants; his size, craftiness, athleticism and ball-handling is one of the main reasons he averaged 7+ drives a game before he was injured.

The mental side of things is probably the biggest cause of concern (which again will come in time as he learns and adjusts), not his skillset.

you were wrong mudiay is a bust admit it troll

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I just feel his shooting is so bad and even close range shots are a prob. I just don't think he has it in him to improve enough to be a competent scorer. And especially in today's league if you can'tshoot at all, it's an issue.
Russ, wall and rose were pretty bad as rookies shooting the ball but I looked at the numbers for all 4 players through their team's first 36 games.
Here is what I got
John Wall
32-102 .314 (2pt 15 feet or more)
80-162 .494 (15 feet or less)
19-56 .339 (Threes)
Russell Westbrook
22-68 .324 (2pt 15 feet or more)
137-306 .448 (15 feet or less)
16-47 (Threes)
Derrick Rose
69-165 .418 (2pt 15 feet or more)
165-321 .514 (15 feet or less)
14-39 .359 (Threes)
Emmanuel Mudiay
18-73 .247 (2pt FG 15 feet or more)
56-156 .359 (15 feet or less)
18-71 .254 (Threes)


So as you Can see.. closer to the rim, three point shooting, midrange. Mudiay is the worst in all 3...

Again, Mudiay has only played 23 games - most of which he was thrown in at the deep end. I don't think he'll reach the heights of Rose and Westbrook in terms of scoring potential - but there's no reason to suggest that he isn't capable of putting up similar numbers to Wall. Like I said confidence in his shot is his main issue, we're really only going to see how much potential he has in the scoring department probably next season - not in his first 20 games. He's a pass-first guard, not a scoring one, trying to compare him to ones that are is a bit disingenuous.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you were wrong mudiay is a bust admit it troll

So you're deemed a bust after 23 games now?

 

[Gangstar8]

So you're deemed a bust after 23 games now?

I deemed him a bust before he even played 1 game cause he was a bum