Spin: Christians, can we talk about Mark 10:21?

[Type Username Here]

Ohhhh ye of cropped biblical clippings let's put the whole thing down shall we?


Now the LESSON in all of this was NOT to sell everything....you know what nvm.

Pearls and swine and such.

I'm clipping the Bible? You act like this is not a theme through the NT. You act like people didn't take vows of poverty, even predating the creation of the Catholic Church.

Let's look:

Luke:

14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”

Hebrews:

5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,

John:

15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father[a] is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.

Tim:

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Luke:

29 And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it. 30 For the pagan world runs after all such things, and your Father knows that you need them.

Phils:

11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.

We can keep going...

 

[the cac mamba]

God loves you as he died for your sins

 

[valet]

I'm clipping the Bible? You act like this is not a theme through the NT. You act like people didn't take vows of poverty, even predating the creation of the Catholic Church.

Let's look:

Luke:


Hebrews:


John:


Tim:


Luke:


Phils:




We can keep going...

Don't love money. Not saying money is bad. Or you shouldn't have it. It's say be on guard against greed. Wanting more and more and never satisfied. Some of the members of the Devos family are examples of how you can be rich but at the same time use that money to help others.

 

[NZA]

americans are more capitalist than christian, the cultural difference between modern day americans and ancient palestinian jewish cult members is simply too strong for some of these values to stick. jesus preached some fairly radical things by today's standards, and his followers thought the world was going to end soon, so long term planning and wealth building were pointless, and maybe even a sign of a lack of faith to these folks.

now, the most christian people i see hate the poor and weak, and never miss out on money. the moneychangers in the temple would be proud of preachers hustle skills today.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I'm clipping the Bible? You act like this is not a theme through the NT. You act like people didn't take vows of poverty, even predating the creation of the Catholic Church.

Let's look:

Luke:


Hebrews:


John:


Tim:


Luke:


Phils:




We can keep going...

Come on TUH, your argument for clipping the bible is...clipping the bible?

Ironically you talk of a "theme" in the bible then completely gloss over the ACTUAL theme of the bible.

Try reading a few verses before and after all those clippings.

Also,
Either you're EXTREMELY well read in the bible, or (as i suspect) you're google arguing with me about a belief system you really only know waht you've "read" from others. do you google "stick it to christians" on every day for new material?

Just saying TUH, there are MANY themes in the bible, one of them is that greed and LOVE of money can be a bad thing.

Peace

 

[Brown_Pride]

americans are more capitalist than christian, the cultural difference between modern day americans and ancient palestinian jewish cult members is simply too strong for some of these values to stick. jesus preached some fairly radical things by today's standards, and his followers thought the world was going to end soon, so long term planning and wealth building were pointless, and maybe even a sign of a lack of faith to these folks.

now, the most christian people i see hate the poor and weak, and never miss out on money. the moneychangers in the temple would be proud of preachers hustle skills today.

agreed.

That's what kills me here is that you look at the actions of some and now MANY and THAT is what this religion is about to outsiders...and honestly a lot of insiders too.

Where Jesus to come back there'd be some splaining to do for a lot of these so called "preachers"...or so I assume. Only god really knows their hearts and the WHY of what they do. like i said before there's about 100 years worth of life an an eternity of what's next, plan and act accordingly.

 

[Type Username Here]

Come on TUH, your argument for clipping the bible is...clipping the bible?

Ironically you talk of a "theme" in the bible then completely gloss over the ACTUAL theme of the bible.

Try reading a few verses before and after all those clippings.

Also,
Either you're EXTREMELY well read in the bible, or (as i suspect) you're google arguing with me about a belief system you really only know waht you've "read" from others. do you google "stick it to christians" on every day for new material?

Just saying TUH, there are MANY themes in the bible, one of them is that greed and LOVE of money can be a bad thing.

Peace

When did I say it was the only theme? I said that particular theme is found throughout the NT, which blends in elements of Buddhism. The Buddhist fingerprints are all over the NT.

Also, I don't have the Bible memorized. Do you? But I do know what's in the Bible. I have read the bible many times, especially the NT. I love some of the stuff in the NT. If you know anone who grew up in a Latin American country to a Catholic family, you know that reading the bible and going to church is pretty much a given. But you're right, I don't have the Bible memorized.

All am I saying is that it's pretty obvious that a lot of modern day Christians choose specifically what parts to follow verbatim and they seem to always interpret the Bible in a way that allows them to stay in their comfort zone. Mark 10:11 is a good example.

Speaking of greed and love of money, actively lobbying for material possessions such as Windows Phones and Tables is something Jesus would have classified as pure? I'd argue not, but maybe you can interpret it another way.

 

[Brown_Pride]

When did I say it was the only theme? I said that particular theme is found throughout the NT, which blends in elements of Buddhism. The Buddhist fingerprints are all over the NT.

Also, I don't have the Bible memorized. Do you? But I do know what's in the Bible. I have read the bible many times, especially the NT. I love some of the stuff in the NT. If you know anone who grew up in a Latin American country to a Catholic family, you know that reading the bible and going to church is pretty much a given. But you're right, I don't have the Bible memorized.

All am I saying is that it's pretty obvious that a lot of modern day Christians choose specifically what parts to follow verbatim and they seem to always interpret the Bible in a way that allows them to stay in their comfort zone. Mark 10:11 is a good example.

i agree with you here

Speaking of greed and love of money, actively lobbying for material possessions such as Windows Phones and Tables is something Jesus would have classified as pure? I'd argue not, but maybe you can interpret it another way.

I don't think jesus would have given two shyts about a windows phone outside of it becoming an obsession. That's just my opinion though. Like if THAT is what's causing you pause for concern then my friend you are really not catching the myriad of other shyt out there. Some "Christian" actively obessing over a phone well yeah he should probably be corrected.

 

[88m3]

fire and brimstone is theme of the bible then? @Brown_Pride

 

[dennis roadman]

any of yall ever read The Upside Down Kingdom?

speaks pretty clearly and kinda militantly on this issue. i recommend it highly. comes from the Anabaptist tradition, which in my opinion is the closest you can get to the ideals set forth by the desert dwellers of years past who believed themselves to be divinely inspired

btw jesus definitely would not have approved of a windows phone, et al, let's be serious. we shouldn't rationalize our modern lifestyles to fit what we know our god tells us, instead we should realize we either need to live as the desert fathers did or just put the damn book down and stop pretending

i've chosen to stop pretending, that's why i'm posting on a portable computer while sitting on a comfortable couch with the tv on. join me or don't, but stop hovering in the doorway

 

[Brown_Pride]

fire and brimstone is theme of the bible then? @Brown_Pride

Yup you got it. 70+ books of "fire & brimstone" just over and over.

 

[88m3]

Yup you got it. 70+ books of "fire & brimstone" just over and over.

I feel like you're talking down to me


My confirmation meant a lot to me

 

[Broke Wave]

I been quoting the bible in another thread to destroy a hypocrite and now my weary eyes see this

 

[keepemup]

You gotta read the whole chapter. Are you at all sincere in your questioning or do you just want to be contemptuous?

 

[Poppa_Dock]

this is when christians just convert to a more radical religion and still shyt on you