Spin- Benevolent Dictators

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

based on my understanding of things, it appeared as though tito allowed for the ustase and chetniks to bleed each other out a bit before taking them both out in order to secure power for himself. this is a ridiculous tragedy due to the barbarity of the ustase.

"A good Ustashi," Pavelic told his men, "is he who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother." According to an Italian correspondent, Pavelic once put a wicker basket on his desk - filled with 40 pounds of eyes gourged from victims of the Ustashi.

tito hated serbs, that much is obvious.

Tito's secret police - the OZNa - hunted down the Chetnik bands in Serbia, and in 1946 executed Mihailovic as a war criminal. Many Chetniks went into hiding, living a shadow existence constantly on the move between safe houses to avoid arrest.

One Chetnik who survived a Nazi concentration camp only to fall into the hands of the OZNa recalled, 'the Gestapo destroyed the body; OZNa raped the soul.' The violent struggles that occurred in Yugoslavia between 1941 and 1945 resulted in over 1.7 million dead.

fukk tito. he hated on mihailovic's rational attempts to fight off both the nazis and the ustase. the nazis claimed that they would execute 100 for every german soldier killed during the yugoslavian resistance, yet, tito didn't give a fukk knowing that the chetniks would be the ones primarily targeted because of the acknowledgement of mihailovic's official leadership by the allies. only when mihailovic was outnumbered and under-supported was tito and the partisans recognized as the leaders. the allies fukked that up, and it made no sense, seeing as though tito was a raging communist.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

i should probably add that my maternal great grandfather was allegedly a member of the black hand, the group that precipitated ww1 and desired serbian nationalism...he may have been one of the assassins but the details aren't very clear because he fled to america and changed his last name from miljatovic to miller. his son was stationed in italy as an american soldier during the 40's, met up with my grandmother, had my mother then moved back to america and got married to start a family i had to tell my mother that her father died years ago, that is how estranged she was from her father and his side of the family, so i do have some angst towards them as well..

the history of draza mihailovic's past is shady, saying he was orphaned at 7 with no mention of siblings and his grave still being hidden etc...and with him being executed as a traitor at the time, i suppose its possible that my side of the family changed the spellings to conceal any possible relations, if there was any relation at all. the last name is fairly common though so who knows.

i wasn't sure of the details, but recently, my older brother told me that when he was signing up for the marines, he was told that he was unable to join because of our family history

and my father jokingly mentioned in passing that i was a possible heir to the yugoslavian monarchy in exile. the king never officially abdicated the throne.

but as i connect the dots, its starting to seem more realistic. idk bro. it makes sense that my family earned stripes in yugoslavia for being in the army and black hand, and with mihailovic being hand picked by the king in exile, peter, to be the minister of defence in his stead, it is possible that that b*stard tito helped robbed my family of monarchical power. even more reason to say fukk tito

 

[Resident Geordie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

Not sure about Benevolent

 

[mbewane]

Gaddafi...only the West hated his guts....

Not true breh, he wasn't all that loved in Africa, don't let his "African Unity" bs fool you...respected maybe, feared definitely, but not much more than that

 

[thekingsmen]

Not true breh, he wasn't all that loved in Africa, don't let his "African Unity" bs fool you...respected maybe, feared definitely, but not much more than that

Bring the evidence....

 

[Sinnerman]

Gaddafi...only the West hated his guts....

came in to say this

 

[mbewane]

Bring the evidence....

If you're asking for official documents from African states, I don't have access to that. But actually speaking to Africans from different countries (including some working at high levels), there was some resentment about Kaddafi using this "African Unity" theme (and oil money) to extend his influence over Sub-Saharean Africa, when he realized that an unified North Africa was not possible. He tried to use that influence to convert the Central African Republic to Islam back when Bokassa was emperor (). Plus his support for dictators who were in power (not different from Europe and the US) was obviously appreciated by those dictators, and not by opposition in those countries.

Now don't get me wrong, Kaddafi DID invest a lot in projects in Sub-Saharean Africa and directly support some governments, but again what does that mean? That he was buying support and keeping corrupt governments in power: again, not different than what the EU and the US do. OS yes he was "benevolent", but towards other dictators/presidents.

Most african countries didn't really go out of their way to express their support to him when Lybia was attacked: they did protest against the attack, but more for political, economical and strategic reasons: they were against ANOTHER western-led "solution", they feared lybian petrodollars would stop flowing their direction and they feared the instability once Lybia fell. On at least that last point, Northen Mali says they were right. But it had little to do with supporting Qaddafi per se because he was "benevolent".

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Vlademir Putin, dude like the boss of all bosses.

 

[Nascimento]

"Do not care if the cat is black or white, what matters is it catches mice"
Deng Xiaoping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Say what you will about the Chinese system - and looking at practical reality I would argue it shares more similarities with America than most would care to admit - but the fact that more than 300 million people in China today live a middle class life according to Western standards speaks for itself. An astounding development over a period that began in 1979, with capitalistic reforms to the Chinese economy, at the time based mainly in agriculture, while also opening up to foreign trade and investment.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu00Tox_y4E"]Gamal Abdel Nasser Burial - Five million people attended [/ame]


Nasser ya horria.

 

[OsO]

one persons "benevolent" dictator is always another persons tyrant.

we have not evolved to the point where we can coexist peacefully so in the governing of a country you always gotta put the paws on somebody.