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Malik
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They talk about Ancient Mali, Ancient Ghana, Nubia and The Zulu Empire too. White people just haven't found a way to claim those yet
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GetInTheTruck
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The Egyptians also distinguished themselves from other Africans, they viewed themselves as a different people even though they were all technically "black" by today's standards.
Could any old African stroll into Egypt way back in the day and be treated like a brother?
no.Like I said in other threads, you dudes are way too caught up in skin color.
GetInTheTruck
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They talk about Ancient Mali, Ancient Ghana, Nubia and The Zulu Empire too. White people just haven't found a way to claim those yet
White people don't really try to claim Egypt anymore though. If you are talking about out-dated race theory which revolved around the three "primary races;" negroid, caucasoid, mongoloid, then guess what, those same racist Europeans considered Ethiopians and Indians to be of caucasian stock - they based their classifications on skull shapes, not skin color.
Afrocentric so-called scholars on the other hand will try to claim every civilization under the sun - Sumerian/Mesopotamian, Ancient China, Ancient Japan, the Indus-Valley, Mesoamerican, etc. with no basis whatsoever - language doesn't matter, cultures don't matter, written records don't matter....if they aren't white, afrocentricists will try to claim them...It's a joke.
This can not be emphasized enough.
The Egyptians also distinguished themselves from other Africans, they viewed themselves as a different people even though they were all technically "black" by today's standards.
Could any old African stroll into Egypt way back in the day and be treated like a brother?
Like I said in other threads, you dudes are way too caught up in skin color.
You not making any sense any culture is or were the same way idiot. You couldn't go to Mali and expected to be treated same as you are in Nubia. I am confuse by the point you are trying to make.
I could care less but for the Europeans and Arabs denying their achievements because they were Blacks
Explain that to the Europeans and Arabs destroying the monuments and white washing them because they are Black. You guys crack me up when Africans try to claim their history, you guys so oh yall caught up in color. Losers. Lets not talk about the white washing of Africans historical figures in Europe during yall peak in history.
I disagree but I see where you are reaching. You can't sit here and deny even with historical evidence and language similiarites the presence of Africans in all those countries you named. The citizens of those countries even admitted the presence of Africans who had helped or started their civilizations. Let's think for a minute.... Africans are the oldest group of people in the world and granted they were the first ones building civilizations with thousands of years of development. What did the group of Africans do after they left Africa they traveled the world building civilizations. The Sumerians language were derived from Ethiopia, shyt the Ethiopians were described coming over before the construction of that great empire. Yall dudes need to read man and stop looking at it in a bias way.
Ancient India was a black civilization until the invasions and there gods were black in the beginning. This is written fact. Lets not start with South America. Cmon man.
GetInTheTruck
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There is no evidence at all that proves that the sumerian language came from Ethiopia, thats bull...same goes for India. There are two language groups in India, indo-european, and dravidian, neither of which have anything to do with anything spoken in africa. The ancient sumerian language is considered an "isolate," meaning it was pretty much its own thing. The dravidian languages come from tamil, which came from proto-dravidian...efforts have been made to connect it with ancient sumerian but nothing concrete has been agreed upon as of yet...africa doesnt even figure into the equation.
You have no facts to support you, just junk theory and wishful thinking.
Why would africans leave their native lands to build great civilizations elsewhere without any frame of reference whatsoever? Think about that for a second.
You have no facts to support you, just junk theory and wishful thinking.
Why would africans leave their native lands to build great civilizations elsewhere without any frame of reference whatsoever? Think about that for a second.
Its interesting how they'll identify north american people of african descent as "black", "negro", "african-american", and "******s" even with all the supposed mixing, but will 
when our teachers tell us ancient Kemetians were indigenous Black Africans.
It's usually: "They're not black, they're ruddy complexion" or "they're not black, they were mixed!".
The Hykos didn't invade until around1500 BC, several thousand years AFTER Kemet had already been established. If anybody from outside of AFRICA successfully invaded Kemet before then let me know.
Are Ethiopians black? Are the San tribe of south Africa black?
I consider them black, just like I consider Nigerians, Ghanians, Ugandans, Kenyans, and Somalians black. Just because Europeans and Asians mixed in later on, doesn't mean its their history.
And whats the problem with distinguishing oneself from other tribes? That doesn't change who you are or where you came from. Black canadians, black americans, black brazilians, black jamaicans, black hatians all distinguish themselves from each other and we're relatively close. Some of us got dropped off in the Caribbean, US, South America, but we came from Africa, most likely as slaves. Some of us were already here, but we don't hear about that too often since it doesn't fit the narrative.
People can't wrap their heads around a world without europeans or asians running shyt
This article tells me is that we need people to start digging and recovering our artifacts. Get our scientists and scholars putting in work. Everyone else finds our stuff, then spins a story to fit their view, while we restrict ourselves to dominating whatever they allow us compete fairly in
when our teachers tell us ancient Kemetians were indigenous Black Africans. It's usually: "They're not black, they're ruddy complexion" or "they're not black, they were mixed!".
The Hykos didn't invade until around1500 BC, several thousand years AFTER Kemet had already been established. If anybody from outside of AFRICA successfully invaded Kemet before then let me know.
Are Ethiopians black? Are the San tribe of south Africa black?
I consider them black, just like I consider Nigerians, Ghanians, Ugandans, Kenyans, and Somalians black. Just because Europeans and Asians mixed in later on, doesn't mean its their history.
And whats the problem with distinguishing oneself from other tribes? That doesn't change who you are or where you came from. Black canadians, black americans, black brazilians, black jamaicans, black hatians all distinguish themselves from each other and we're relatively close. Some of us got dropped off in the Caribbean, US, South America, but we came from Africa, most likely as slaves. Some of us were already here, but we don't hear about that too often since it doesn't fit the narrative.
People can't wrap their heads around a world without europeans or asians running shyt
This article tells me is that we need people to start digging and recovering our artifacts. Get our scientists and scholars putting in work. Everyone else finds our stuff, then spins a story to fit their view, while we restrict ourselves to dominating whatever they allow us compete fairly in
GetInTheTruck
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Its interesting how they'll identify north american people of african descent as "black", "negro", "african-american", and "******s" even with all the supposed mixing, but will
It's usually: "They're not black, they're ruddy complexion" or "they're not black, they were mixed!".
The Hykos didn't invade until around1500 BC, several thousand years AFTER Kemet had already been established. If anybody from outside of AFRICA successfully invaded Kemet before then let me know.
Are Ethiopians black? Are the San tribe of south Africa black?
I consider them black, just like I consider Nigerians, Ghanians, Ugandans, Kenyans, and Somalians black. Just because Europeans and Asians mixed in later on, doesn't mean its their history.
And whats the problem with distinguishing oneself from other tribes? That doesn't change who you are or where you came from. Black canadians, black americans, black brazilians, black jamaicans, black hatians all distinguish themselves from each other and we're relatively close. Some of us got dropped off in the Caribbean, US, South America, but we came from Africa, most likely as slaves. Some of us were already here, but we don't hear about that too often since it doesn't fit the narrative.
People can't wrap their heads around a world without europeans or asians running shyt
This article tells me is that we need people to start digging and recovering our artifacts. Get our scientists and scholars putting in work. Everyone else finds our stuff, then spins a story to fit their view, while we restrict ourselves to dominating whatever they allow us compete fairly in
I don't dispute the fact that the Egyptians were black, I never said they were white, asian, or whatever so I don't even know why you went off on that tangent.
unless you are from that particular part of Africa, then you can't really claim the Egyptians like that and you look stupid doing so. A central or south african would be just as much a foreigner in Egypt as an Arab...whether you like it or not. People back in the day didn't look at race the same way as people do today. Example:
According to the book "From Bharata to India: Chrysee the Golden" which was written by M. K Agarwal
Said Al-Andalusi stated: " India is the first nation to have cultivated the sciences, and
although black, Allah ranked them above many white and brown people. It is a powerful, wealthy and
populous nation known for the wisdom of its people and their abilities in all branches of knowledge"
The Indians, as known to all nations for many centuries, are the metal (essence) of wisdom, the source of fairness and objectivity. They are peoples of sublime pensiveness, universal apologues, and useful and rare inventions. In spite of the fact that their color is in the first stage of blackness, which puts them in the same category as the blacks, Allah, in His glory, did not give them the low characters, the poor manners, nor the inferior principles associated with this group and ranked them above a large number of white and brown peoples.
These observations are from about the 11th century, by Arabs. As you can see, skin color didn't matter as much when categorizing people back then, that's more of a recent phenomenon. It wasn't about your skin color, it was about where you were from and what group of people you belonged to....that's how it was in ancient days as well. All this talk about what race did this and what race did that is silly garbage that isn't advancing things for anybody.
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The point @GetInTheTruck was trying to make was that, just because the early Egyptians were black doesn't mean that they treated people of the same color equally. Y'all get too hung up color on here. Color is just fukking pigmentation that helps your skin compensate for the sun or lack their of. Outside of color, humans are universally pretty much the same. In order for humans to evolve, they need to get pass that superficiality.Its interesting how they'll identify north american people of african descent as "black", "negro", "african-american", and "******s" even with all the supposed mixing, but will
It's usually: "They're not black, they're ruddy complexion" or "they're not black, they were mixed!".
The Hykos didn't invade until around1500 BC, several thousand years AFTER Kemet had already been established. If anybody from outside of AFRICA successfully invaded Kemet before then let me know.
Are Ethiopians black? Are the San tribe of south Africa black?
I consider them black, just like I consider Nigerians, Ghanians, Ugandans, Kenyans, and Somalians black. Just because Europeans and Asians mixed in later on, doesn't mean its their history.
And whats the problem with distinguishing oneself from other tribes? That doesn't change who you are or where you came from. Black canadians, black americans, black brazilians, black jamaicans, black hatians all distinguish themselves from each other and we're relatively close. Some of us got dropped off in the Caribbean, US, South America, but we came from Africa, most likely as slaves. Some of us were already here, but we don't hear about that too often since it doesn't fit the narrative.
People can't wrap their heads around a world without europeans or asians running shyt
This article tells me is that we need people to start digging and recovering our artifacts. Get our scientists and scholars putting in work. Everyone else finds our stuff, then spins a story to fit their view, while we restrict ourselves to dominating whatever they allow us compete fairly in
Mr. 1nighter
On my grown man steeze
Saw this in the comments
I just don't get it. But I thought you had to be a descendant of Jacob to be an Israelite. These people dwelling in this area of the middle east, are Esau and Ishmael descendant. It is the Bible you are talking about. So this makes a false claim in the Bible. Abraham is the father of all the nations of the world (it is stated in the Bible). Before Abraham, there was only Africans in the earth. Therefore, Abraham an African, birthed all the different nations and change the African race. Ishmael is father of the Arab race. Esau is father of the Indian race including India, Pakistan, Nepal and all neighboring similar people. Isaac is the only descendant of Abraham that was born African. He father Jacob, also, an African who produce the twelve tribes of Israel who are all Africans.
So, how come Israel turned white today? Somebody need to explain because you can't change father like that. His cousin Lot is father of the other Asian people. So, these two African men God use the change the African race into nations you see walking this earth. Nobody came from space. And we all have an origin and a place that is rightfully your own. So, it time we get back to our righted place and stop stealing and lying.
When Joseph went into Egypt with all of Jacob descendants there was no Caucasian in the world. Because the Elisha the prophet of God was not yet born. Therefore, Gehazi the Edomite and descendant of Esau father of the Caucasian nation was not yet in existence.
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Is this the break down the bible gives?
I just don't get it. But I thought you had to be a descendant of Jacob to be an Israelite. These people dwelling in this area of the middle east, are Esau and Ishmael descendant. It is the Bible you are talking about. So this makes a false claim in the Bible. Abraham is the father of all the nations of the world (it is stated in the Bible). Before Abraham, there was only Africans in the earth. Therefore, Abraham an African, birthed all the different nations and change the African race. Ishmael is father of the Arab race. Esau is father of the Indian race including India, Pakistan, Nepal and all neighboring similar people. Isaac is the only descendant of Abraham that was born African. He father Jacob, also, an African who produce the twelve tribes of Israel who are all Africans.
So, how come Israel turned white today? Somebody need to explain because you can't change father like that. His cousin Lot is father of the other Asian people. So, these two African men God use the change the African race into nations you see walking this earth. Nobody came from space. And we all have an origin and a place that is rightfully your own. So, it time we get back to our righted place and stop stealing and lying.
When Joseph went into Egypt with all of Jacob descendants there was no Caucasian in the world. Because the Elisha the prophet of God was not yet born. Therefore, Gehazi the Edomite and descendant of Esau father of the Caucasian nation was not yet in existence.
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Is this the break down the bible gives?
Color shouldn't matter, but in 2013 planet earth it does, especially when your color is generally disrespected and viewed as a 3rd class citizen.
Our ancestors were abused, stripped of culture and identity, and told our homeland was a jungle full of godless savages. People have been directly, and indirectly telling us that Black people have done nothing for the world, are less intelligent, and had no great civilizations. When taught our history from their teachers, we learn about being slaves, and now we are generally viewed as the thugs and athletes of society who cry racism when ever shyt doesn't go our way.
So when we find proof that Black people did have great teachers, scientists, navigators, mathematicians, culture, religion, civilizations--- we should share this information. Not only should we share it, we should trust that our teachers will give us the tools that their teachers wont. And if interested, and blessed, we should go and see for ourselves.
The reason we don't always big up or identify with other parts of Africa is because we simply don't know, we don't care, or we haven't been taught.
We don't learn about the Dogons.
We don't learn about Mansa Musa and the medieval west Africans during their peak.
We don't learn about the Zulus.
We don't learn about the Ethiopians or their contributions to religion.
But we're given big dose of Ancient Kemet remixed
As far as the "Egyptians not treating people of the same color equally", I agree and would extend that comment to every culture or group in the world.
Our ancestors were abused, stripped of culture and identity, and told our homeland was a jungle full of godless savages. People have been directly, and indirectly telling us that Black people have done nothing for the world, are less intelligent, and had no great civilizations. When taught our history from their teachers, we learn about being slaves, and now we are generally viewed as the thugs and athletes of society who cry racism when ever shyt doesn't go our way.
So when we find proof that Black people did have great teachers, scientists, navigators, mathematicians, culture, religion, civilizations--- we should share this information. Not only should we share it, we should trust that our teachers will give us the tools that their teachers wont. And if interested, and blessed, we should go and see for ourselves.
The reason we don't always big up or identify with other parts of Africa is because we simply don't know, we don't care, or we haven't been taught.
We don't learn about the Dogons.
We don't learn about Mansa Musa and the medieval west Africans during their peak.
We don't learn about the Zulus.
We don't learn about the Ethiopians or their contributions to religion.
But we're given big dose of Ancient Kemet remixed
As far as the "Egyptians not treating people of the same color equally", I agree and would extend that comment to every culture or group in the world.
observe
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Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt ..that's a bible myth
The Egyptians also distinguished themselves from other Africans, they viewed themselves as a different people even though they were all technically "black" by today's standards.
Could any old African stroll into Egypt way back in the day and be treated like a brother?
Like I said in other threads, you dudes are way too caught up in skin color.
I haven't read any old records about ancient Egyptians treating people of the same or different color the same or differently..don't know where you guys dug up those race relations from