Sperm counts of Western men falling to record lows.

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In U.S., Blacks Most Likely to Be Very Obese, Asians Least

In U.S., Blacks Most Likely to Be Very Obese, Asians Least
by Elizabeth Mendes, Frank Newport, and Kyley McGeeney
As Americans enter middle age they become more likely to be very obese

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Blacks are among the most likely in the United States to be very obese, with about 9% falling into obese class II and 6% obese class III -- the highest Body Mass Index (BMI) categories. Asians are by far the least likely to fall into these two classes of obesity. Hispanics are on par with whites for each obesity class.

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Please, tell me how this will have ZERO effect on the health of Black people
 

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In U.S., Blacks Most Likely to Be Very Obese, Asians Least
Please, tell me how this will have ZERO effect on the health of Black people

Why should I tell you that?
Factor average breeding age with the average age at which obesity is likely to start affecting your sperm count or ultimately even kills you.
For example if obesity leads to early death (lets say -10 years on average) that is way past the point at which MOST people have children.
And in any case facts are facts. Neanderthal inheritance has a massive negative effect on the reproductive rate of the ENTIRE foot-bottom-hued population. Globally.
I'm not saying that. See linky...
 
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Why should I tell you that?
Factor average breeding age with the average age at which obesity is likely to start affecting your sperm count or ultimately even kills you.
For example if obesity leads to early death (lets say -10 years on average) that is way past the point at which MOST people have children.
And in any case facts are facts. Neanderthal inheritance has a massive negative effect on the reproductive rate of the ENTIRE foot-bottom-hued population. Globally.
I'm not saying that. See linky...
A one percent decrease in reproductive success is not nearly as significant as you're purporting. The article suggests that neanderthal DNA may decrease fertility by one percent, not that it does -- and even if these genes were a causal factor, a one percent decrease is fairly inconsequential. It then goes on to say that an estimated one percent of non-Africans -- those carrying a higher than average amount of neanderthal DNA -- again, may have lower reproductive fitness due to such genetic mutations.
 

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Why should I tell you that?
Factor average breeding age with the average age at which obesity is likely to start affecting your sperm count or ultimately even kills you.
For example if obesity leads to early death (lets say -10 years on average) that is way past the point at which MOST people have children.
And in any case facts are facts. Neanderthal inheritance has a massive negative effect on the reproductive rate of the ENTIRE foot-bottom-hued population. Globally.
I'm not saying that. See linky...

Are you seriously trying to tell me that you don't see all these fat young Black people walking around now?

We're acting like only old Black people are fat?

Go to a fukking high-school. There's a ton of fukking obese nikkaz who are 17 running around. You're gonna try to tell me these people are healthy because they're Black?

No one's arguing that in regular circumstances that nikkaz aren't more fertile than crackkkas are, but these are not regular circumstances. We disproportionately live in fukking urban dystopias where the food, water, and air are fukked up, plus these crakkker police and employers have us stressed out. That can't be good for your heart, brain, sperm, or anything else. Acting like everything's just gonna be okay because of melanin isn't going to help us.
 

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Are you seriously trying to tell me that you don't see all these fat young Black people walking around now?

We're acting like only old Black people are fat?

Go to a fukking high-school. There's a ton of fukking obese nikkaz who are 17 running around. You're gonna try to tell me these people are healthy because they're Black?

No one's arguing that in regular circumstances that nikkaz aren't more fertile than crackkkas are, but these are not regular circumstances. We disproportionately live in fukking urban dystopias where the food, water, and air are fukked up, plus these crakkker police and employers have us stressed out. That can't be good for your heart, brain, sperm, or anything else. Acting like everything's just gonna be okay because of melanin isn't going to help us.

You missed this (not insignificant) line

And in any case facts are facts. Neanderthal inheritance has a massive negative effect on the reproductive rate of the ENTIRE foot-bottom-hued population. Globally.

as reiterated here Impact of obesity on male fertility, sperm function and molecular composition

And no I am not trying to tell you that. I am telling you that they are genetically superior for reproduction. Like it says on the tin (and in the report)...
 

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A one percent decrease in reproductive success is not nearly as significant as you're purporting. The article suggests that neanderthal DNA may decrease fertility by one percent, not that it does -- and even if these genes were a causal factor, a one percent decrease is fairly inconsequential. It then goes on to say that an estimated one percent of non-Africans -- those carrying a higher than average amount of neanderthal DNA -- again, may have lower reproductive fitness due to such genetic mutations.

I am? What the report (not study) says is ..

1. Neanderthals were massively less fertile..
2. Neanderthal descendants are less then massively fertile.
3. We don't the exact amounts but rate1 > rate2
4. But we do know that Neanderthals were impacted by negative genetic inheritance in reproduction.

Combined with the other reports and the fact that Neanderthals all but died out it suggests that the guestimates in the report could be too low re. the modern day European population.

However The Genetic Cost of Neanderthal Introgression | Genetics

"However, these positively selected genes represent a tiny fraction of Neanderthal introgression’s genetic legacy. A larger number of Neanderthal alleles appear to have deleterious fitness effects, with putative links to various diseases as measured by genome-wide association studies"

"Some previous studies concluded that this bottleneck saddled non-Africans with potentially damaging genetic variants that could affect disease incidence across the globe today"

"In our simulation with additive fitness effects, the median Neanderthal was found to have fitness 0.63 compared to the median human (Figure 1A). Assuming recessive fitness effects, the excess load accumulated by Neanderthals was even greater, with a median Neanderthal fitness of 0.39 compared to the median human"

"Although surviving Neanderthal alleles are unlikely to affect the risks of Mendelian diseases with severe effects, they may have disproportionately large effects on polygenic traits that influence fitness"

"We estimated earlier that Neanderthals were ∼60% as fit as humans, assuming that deleterious mutations have additive fitness effects"

"We do not claim to have precisely estimated the deleterious Neanderthal load that remains in non-Africans today"

"Association methods have already revealed correlations between Neanderthal alleles and several human diseases (Sankararaman et al. 2014). Our results on mutations with additive dominance effects suggest that introgression reduced non-African fitness about as much as the out-of-Africa bottleneck did."

AND the 400K years is far too short IMO.

What THIS study therefore establishes is that there is genetic deficit built into gringo populations and the effect could be far greater than the 1% quoted by the Daily Mail. It is also establishes that gringo populations are less fit (which affects many things other than reproduction) due to the migration bottleneck.

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And then we have the question of compatibility http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...ndertals-had-trouble-making-babies-here-s-why
 

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I am? What the report (not study) says is ..

1. Neanderthals were massively less fertile..
2. Neanderthal descendants are less then massively fertile.
3. We don't the exact amounts but rate1 > rate2
4. But we do know that Neanderthals were impacted by negative genetic inheritance in reproduction.

Combined with the other reports and the fact that Neanderthals all but died out it suggests that the guestimates in the report could be too low re. the modern day European population.

However The Genetic Cost of Neanderthal Introgression | Genetics

"However, these positively selected genes represent a tiny fraction of Neanderthal introgression’s genetic legacy. A larger number of Neanderthal alleles appear to have deleterious fitness effects, with putative links to various diseases as measured by genome-wide association studies"

"Some previous studies concluded that this bottleneck saddled non-Africans with potentially damaging genetic variants that could affect disease incidence across the globe today"

"In our simulation with additive fitness effects, the median Neanderthal was found to have fitness 0.63 compared to the median human (Figure 1A). Assuming recessive fitness effects, the excess load accumulated by Neanderthals was even greater, with a median Neanderthal fitness of 0.39 compared to the median human"

"Although surviving Neanderthal alleles are unlikely to affect the risks of Mendelian diseases with severe effects, they may have disproportionately large effects on polygenic traits that influence fitness"

"We estimated earlier that Neanderthals were ∼60% as fit as humans, assuming that deleterious mutations have additive fitness effects"

"We do not claim to have precisely estimated the deleterious Neanderthal load that remains in non-Africans today"

"Association methods have already revealed correlations between Neanderthal alleles and several human diseases (Sankararaman et al. 2014). Our results on mutations with additive dominance effects suggest that introgression reduced non-African fitness about as much as the out-of-Africa bottleneck did."

AND the 400K years is far too short IMO.

What THIS study therefore establishes is that there is genetic deficit built into gringo populations and the effect could be far greater than the 1% quoted by the Daily Mail. It is also establishes that gringo populations are less fit (which affects many things other than reproduction) due to the migration bottleneck.

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And then we have the question of compatibility http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...ndertals-had-trouble-making-babies-here-s-why
You said, "Neanderthal inheritance has a massive negative effect on the reproductive rate of the ENTIRE bottom-foot-hued population." -- yet the article you posted proposed that Neanderthal DNA in non-Africans may reduce reproductive success by one percent, and that this reduction affects an estimated one percent of non-Africans today. That is nowhere near massive, nor is it affecting the entire Eurasian population.

"However, these positively selected genes represent a tiny fraction of Neanderthal introgression’s genetic legacy. A larger number of Neanderthal alleles appear to have deleterious fitness effects, with putative links to various diseases as measured by genome-wide association studies"

"Some previous studies concluded that this bottleneck saddled non-Africans with potentially damaging genetic variants that could affect disease incidence across the globe today"
Even with the plethora of genetic diseases that whites and Asians have supposedly inherited from Neanderthals, they are afflicted far less with many of the worrying ailments we see today: breast cancer, pancreatic cancer, prostate cancer, colorectal cancer, Alzheimer's disease, kidney disease, cardiovascular disease, stroke, asthma, etc. These mutations don't seem be affecting them as much as is being proclaimed, at least in terms of disease.

"Although surviving Neanderthal alleles are unlikely to affect the risks of Mendelian diseases with severe effects, they may have disproportionately large effects on polygenic traits that influence fitness"

"We estimated earlier that Neanderthals were ∼60% as fit as humans, assuming that deleterious mutations have additive fitness effects"

You left this part out:
We also predict a residual Neanderthal mutational load in non-Africans, leading to a fitness reduction of at least 0.5%.
 
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