Some Simple Coronavirus Facts (COVID-19 Fact Thread)

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

It is not deadlier than the flu it's just spreads faster and lives kn surfaces longer...

The flu is still deadlier but cook

myth

the flu doesn't do permanent organ damage

not deadlier is relatively misleading. people juggling stats because the flu has a higher body count. but you can also make a FULL recovery from the flu without being compromised for the rest of your life.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

i don't think they (the media/government) are doing a good enough job of telling people that most of us will be fine. Mainly the media.

Well the problem with doing that is people take their foot off the gas and start slacking again and then shyt starts escalating.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So it's not the flu and it's less dangerous. Got it.

No, it's not less dangerous. I don't have the slightest clue how you could possibly get that from what I said. It affects your lungs in a more serious manner than the flue does and so far it appears to kill a much higher % of the people who catch it than the flu does.

It is not deadlier than the flu it's just spreads faster and lives kn surfaces longer...

The flu is still deadlier but cook

From all the data we have so far it appears to be deadlier than the flu.

But if you looked at any of the stats from the given cases, that's not even true.

That's absolutely false.

How did that ebola thing work out? Flu still here kicking ass and taking names...Ebola gone like a fart in the wind.

Yes, because ebola does not transmit through the air and is so deadly that its victims die quickly and in excruciating ways, outbreaks burn themselves out rather fast.

 

[thekingsmen]

have you looked at any health stats in the last 20 year?

poor quality high protein diets are producing a lot of colon cancer and mortality rates are down across the board. nothing you said is reality.

well get your information from somewhere else not here

they've already said for people to stop making the flu correlation it is misleading yet here we are... OP meant well.

thecoli.com

No one is denying @Rhakim is meaning well. It's just that information is spread about a virus being so deadly and hasnt done anything the common cold or flu does each year.

 

[Won Won]

Could explain your tendencies to talk about another man so often.

Is someone really a man when they have the mental capacity of a 10 year old?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm wondering what impact this will have on weed smokers if any
I imagine WAY more young ppl age 18-30 smoke weed on a daily basis here vs China/Iran/Italy
What sort of strain does smoking 2 Ls a day put on your lungs and it's ability to fight this thing

I've heard the speculation about cigarette smoking in those countries being a factor in their high death rates. Weed does have a detrimental effect on your lungs but the thing is in those other countries you have people who have been smoking cigs for decades and decades (plus China has really bad pollution too). I doubt the average 25yo American has smoked enough weed to really destroy their lungs so badly that they become extra susceptible. Worth keeping in mind for the long-term though.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

No one is denying @Rhakim is meaning well. It's just that information is spread about a virus being so deadly and hasnt done anything the common cold or flu does each year.

PERMANENT side effects... DO THE COLD AN FLU DO THAT after you heal?

 

[Wiles]

myth

the flu doesn't do permanent organ damage

not deadlier is relatively misleading. people juggling stats because the flu has a higher body count. but you can also make a FULL recovery from the flu without being compromised for the rest of your life.

So can you with the coronavirus

As far as ebola vs flu last time I checked the body count matters since being compromised for the rest of your life is better than no life you fukking scared idiot

 

[thekingsmen]

No, it's not less dangerous. I don't have the slightest clue how you could possibly get that from what I said. It affects your lungs in a more serious manner than the flue does and so far it appears to kill a much higher % of the people who catch it than the flu does.




From all the data we have so far it appears to be deadlier than the flu.




That's absolutely false.




Yes, because ebola does not transmit through the air and is so deadly that its victims die quickly and in excruciating ways, outbreaks burn themselves out rather fast.

Do want you want homie... But the sales pitch of bring "more deadly" isn't sold. if it's not deadlier than the flu record by any stretch . Wish you the best in health.

 

[Wiles]

PERMANENT side effects... DO THE COLD AN FLU DO THAT after you heal?

You cant heal from death

The flu body count looks like a small war each year

 

[thekingsmen]

Is someone really a man when they have the mental capacity of a 10 year old?

If you lost arguments to a 10 year old before...i think being a man is the least of your worries.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

So it's not the flu and it's less dangerous. Got it.

How did that ebola thing work out? Flu still here kicking ass and taking names...Ebola gone like a fart in the wind.

I can see why you're hall of shame

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

So can you with the coronavirus

As far as ebola vs flu last time I checked the body count matters since being compromised for the rest of your life is better than no life you fukking scared idiot

I don't even know what ebola has to do with this. ebola bleeds you out internally and externally but it isn't as contagious as the corona or flu. ebola is only contagious when you are showing symptoms thus easy to identify. ebola deals more damage and fatalities but is less contagious.

the flu is fatal to a select part of the population

Covid19 is more contagious than all of the above and has a longer incubation period. Might be less fatal than the rest but can affect more people as it is more contagious. When it compromises your immunity it can live you open to OTHER complications. You are talking about a virus that has multifaceted issues and long term effects vs something you can heal from and has a vaccine and another that is hard to catch even if deadlier.

idiots conflating shyt they don't understand. maybe it might help if you stop telling people it's like the flu and use a better example

wuhan virus is sars + aids to the body in terms of impact

Coronavirus 'is like a combination of SARS and AIDS', doctors say | Metro News

Doctors in China have warned that coronavirus can cause ‘irreversible’ harm to patients’ lungs, even if they recover. The effects of Covid-19 on the human body ‘is like a combination of SARS and AIDS as it damages both the lungs and immune systems’, Peng Zhiyong told the Global Times. Dr Zhiyong, director of Zhongnan Hospital’s intensive care unit in outbreak epicentre Wuhan, made the comments after speaking to forensic specialist Liu Lang, whose team has reportedly carried out tests on nine patients who had died of the virus.


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This is why people were being treated with HIV meds. But it's just the flu brehs

You want to live with a compromised immunity for the rest of your life? this isn't so bad you say?

 

[thekingsmen]

You cant heal from death

The flu body count looks like a small war each year

It's the same arguments with these people...

Vitamins killed 50 people last year *Coli militants scream for taken vitamins off the market*

Prescription Drugs killed 200,000 people a year *Coli Miltants silent*

 

[Professor Emeritus]

facts?

OP didn't even cite his sources.

This is TLR, I didn't know that was a thing here.

Here are some sources.

The CDC in collaboration with the Chinese Center for Disease Control has produced the following chart based off of the latest information on cases presented and deaths recorded. This is NOT the overall death rate of the disease, it's just how many people have died out of the ones that end up in the hospital/tested. For the flu and likely also for coronavirus, mostly people don't go to the hospital, so they aren't counted in these statistics. But at the very least this shows that for the people who end up getting sick enough that they get tested/hospitalized, coronavirus is about 10-20 times deadlier across all age brackets.

Another article discussed the uncertainty in fatalities and also included some information about the lung issues and strain on the hospital systems that I discussed earlier:

No, Coronavirus Isn't 'Just Like The Flu'. Here Are The Very Important Differences

Aches and pains, sore throat, fever – although they may feel similar to those suffering from their symptoms, the novel coronavirus is not the same as the seasonal flu, experts stressed Wednesday.

COVID-19, the illness caused by coronavirus, proves deadly in around 3.5 percent of confirmed cases.

While this is not the same as its mortality rate, given many people may be infected but not realise it, it is significantly higher than seasonal flu, which typically kills 0.1 percent of patients.

"There is still considerable uncertainty around the fatality rates of COVID-19 and it likely varies depending on the quality of local healthcare," said Francois Balloux, Professor of Computational Systems Biology at University College London.

"That said, it is around two percent on average, which is about 20 times higher than for the seasonal flu lineages currently in circulation."

But the true danger of coronavirus is unlikely to be the death toll. Experts say health systems could easily become overwhelmed by the number of cases requiring hospitalisation – and, often ventilation to support breathing.

An analysis of 45,000 confirmed cases in China, where the epidemic originated, show that the vast majority of deaths were among the elderly (14.8 percent mortality among over 80s).

But another Chinese study showed that 41 percent of serious cases occurred among under 50s, compared with 27 percent among over 65s.

"It's true that if you're older you're at greater risk, but serious cases can also happen in relatively young people with no prior conditions," said French deputy health minister Jerome Salomon.

Salomon said that humans have lived with influenza for more than 100 years.

"We've studied it closely," he said. "This new virus resembles the flu in terms of physical symptoms but there are huge differences."

In other words, many of the healthy under-50 people who get coronavirus still experience very serious hospitalizations even though they manage to survive it in the end.