Somaliland Wants To Make One Thing Clear: It Is NOT Somalia

[Grano-Grano]

I have no sympathy for them traitors. They disgust me. They should pay jizyah tax for their b*stard ways.

 

[Solomon Caine]

I don't think any one should wonder why the regime from the 60s-80s kept these people in check. Would any nation accept separatists? They wanted Somalia to fail and they got it. For all I care now, they can have their own country. If it means we will never have to rub shoulders with disloyal cry babies again.

 

[Breh13]

The clan stuff and animosity since the civil war is won't end for a long time.

 

[KingSlime]

I have no sympathy for them traitors. They disgust me. They should pay jizyah tax for their b*stard ways.

Can you expound on the treachery? I don't know anything on Somalian history so I'm pretty lost trying to grasp the weight of this

 

[Solomon Caine]

Can you expound on the treachery? I don't know anything on Somalian history so I'm pretty lost trying to grasp the weight of this

Just a case of a single tribe wanting to have an independent nation all to themselves at any cost because they feel entitled. Kinda like Sri Lanka and the Tamils. Nothing complex really.

 

[Thabo]

Somalia while practically a UN colony, having less power over its territories than Somaliand, is prospering far better than Somaliland.

Somaliland's leadership is stuck in mud. There's no grand vision, there's no strategy. It's just another corrupt hotbed.

My dad is in Mogadishu right now... he went to Hargeisa for the first time in his life a couple years ago as his sister and husband are there now. There's a brain drain leaving SL going south.

There are tens of thousands of Somalilanders living and working in Mogadishu, and many more arrive everyday.

Lies Somalia is a failed state, at least Somaliland is functional.

 

[FAH1223]

Lies Somalia is a failed state, at least Somaliland is functional.

No lies. Somaliland is just as corrupt, perhaps even more corrupt than the idiots in the South

Somalia as a whole includes Somaliland in the eyes of the whole world. Its a failed state but the south has a lot of money not tied in the hands of just a few people, a much more active civil society than in SOmaliland. The tides have turned from say, 2009-2010.

The clan stuff and animosity since the civil war is won't end for a long time.

There's a lack of trust but the tribalism is worse in the diaspora and the internet vs. on the ground

 

[88m3]

Is Puntland still autonomous @FAH1223 @Broke Wave ?

 

[FAH1223]

Is Puntland still autonomous @FAH1223 @Broke Wave ?

Yes. They don't want to breakaway

 

[88m3]

THE WATSON FILES
What if there were a blueprint for climate adaptation that could end a civil war? An English scientist spent his life developing one — then he vanished without a trace.

BY LAURA HEATON | PHOTOGRAPHS BY NICHOLE SOBECKI | MAY 31, 2017

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After sunrise on April 1, 2008, the renowned English ecologist Murray Watson left the Saakow Hotel, a modest concrete guesthouse in rural southern Somalia, heading off for work in a Nissan Patrol. He and a Kenyan colleague, an engineer named Patrick Amukhuma, along with a translator and two guards, were on their way to finish up a survey of flood-prone areas for the United Nations using an aerial and ground survey technique Watson had pioneered decades earlier.

One of the more lush regions in a largely arid country, the area covered by Watson’s survey was also among the most hazardous. It was crawling with al-Shabab extremists, who had taken to extorting the banana and sugarcane farms that unfurled along the banks of the Shabelle and Jubba rivers. Increasingly erratic rainfall, a phenomenon scientists have linked to climate change, was further threatening the farms by causing frequent floods that Watson hoped his survey could help mitigate. Though the 69-year-old Englishman wouldn’t have described it as such, he was leading a groundbreaking climate adaptation effort in a country that is among the most vulnerable to climate change — and to the conflict that often follows in its wake.

Watson knew the dangers of working in this region, but over the years he had honed a set of instincts that usually kept him out of harm’s way. He had lived in Somalia on and off for more than a decade (from the late 1970s until the government collapsed in 1991), spoke basic Somali, and was married to a Somali-Kenyan woman. He was fluent in the country’s ever-shifting power dynamics. But no amount of local knowledge could have saved him that spring morning.

The Key to Saving Somalia is Gathering Dust in the British Countryside

just came across this on fp dealing wiith somalia, should be an interesting read

 

[mbewane]

Just a case of a single tribe wanting to have an independent nation all to themselves at any cost because they feel entitled. Kinda like Sri Lanka and the Tamils. Nothing complex really.

Same here, I don't know anything about the situation so my questions might sound stupid : Why does Somalia want to keep Somaliland? In cases I know of separatist regions, it's either because that region is rich, has ressources, or or strategic reasons...but in this thread I see posts implying Somaliland is in a worse state than the rest of Somalia, so...of does the central government fear other regions will declare independance?

 

[KingSlime]

Same here, I don't know anything about the situation so my questions might sound stupid : Why does Somalia want to keep Somaliland? In cases I know of separatist regions, it's either because that region is rich, has ressources, or or strategic reasons...but in this thread I see posts implying Somaliland is in a worse state than the rest of Somalia, so...of does the central government fear other regions will declare independance?

I would guess to prevent a Domino effect, and also to save the trouble of having to secure the new borders later on

 

[FAH1223]

Same here, I don't know anything about the situation so my questions might sound stupid : Why does Somalia want to keep Somaliland? In cases I know of separatist regions, it's either because that region is rich, has ressources, or or strategic reasons...but in this thread I see posts implying Somaliland is in a worse state than the rest of Somalia, so...of does the central government fear other regions will declare independance?

If Somaliland becomes internationally recognized, a lot of other Somali clans will want to have their own countries. And then even more African countries with seperatist entities will want to do the same.

Somaliland isn't necessarily in a worse state than the rest of Somalia but it suffers from a lack of green lands for agriculture, it's leadership is corrupt, the control over resources i.e. $$$ is much more centralized than it is in the south. The south also has a lot more investment going on. Which is a return to what happened from 1960-1991 with the capital attracting a lot of activity while large areas of the countryside remained backwaters.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Clan politics disgust me but traitorous behavior even more. My race is stupid in the geopolitics game. We need an Ataturk figure. Actually a Otto Bismarck too.

 

[Max B]

I have no sympathy for them traitors. They disgust me. They should pay jizyah tax for their b*stard ways.

Reer AMISOM shouldn't have a say in this. Horta let Somalia fix itself up before coming at Somaliland. Atleast they upfront about it unlike them mj snakes punaniland