WHO WINS? KOVALEV OR WARD?

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  • KOVALEV by KNOCKOUT

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ward in comparison to reggie johnson and frankie liles :patrice:...id say more reggie than frankie..reggie gave everyone he fought a hard night..except roy

Yeah...Reggie Johnson is a more apt comparison...Frankie Liles was no slouch though.

I think i actually made that comparison on here before.

EDIT: yup

Ward ain't no damn once in a lifetime talent :mjlol:

He would barely even standout in the Jones Jr./Toney/Liles/McClellan/Benn/Eubank era of Super Middles.

I think Ward is maybe a half-step above Reggie Johnson talent & skillwise.

nikka...you act like i'm sayin' Ward being a Reggie Johnson caliber boxer is a knock against Ward. :heh:

Reggie Johnson was that nikka...even Willie D knew da sko....

"knocking nikkas out like Reggie Joooooooooohnson" - Willie D





He just sprung up in the wrong era...Reggie would look like a "once in a lifetime talent" in this era...and Ward wouldn't in his...
 

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Ward, skillwise & ability wise is closer to guys like Frankie Liles, Reggie Johnson etc. than a Roy/Toney/B-Hop

He just never passed that eye test of greatness to me. :manny:


So easily beating Carl Froch with only 1 hand wasn't enough? Moving up and dispatching both of the "best LHW's" wasn't enough? Cleaning out the entire division at 168, with no problems, wasn't enough? Ward isn't a great fighter to you:wow:



And Ward isn't better than RJJ, but he's better than Hopkins & Toney.
 

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Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this:hhh:




Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter:ufdup:




Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this:scust:




Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.



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So easily beating Carl Froch with only 1 hand wasn't enough? Moving up and dispatching both of the "best LHW's" wasn't enough? Cleaning out the entire division at 168, with no problems, wasn't enough? Ward isn't a great fighter to you:wow:



And Ward isn't better than RJJ, but he's better than Hopkins & Toney.

"Great" only in the context of his own watered down era of Super Middleweights where his best comp is cavemen (no racial :skip:) like Froch & Kessler

And Ward isn't better than RJJ, but he's better than Hopkins & Toney.

nikka.......

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"Great" only in the context of his own watered down era of Super Middleweights where his best comp is cavemen (no racial :skip:) like Froch & Kessler



nikka.......

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Again:ufdup:


Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this:hhh:




Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter:ufdup:




Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this:scust:




Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.



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#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season:ahh:




#SOGGang



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Get outta here with your lies...trying to pump up RJJ's opponents to be better than SOG, I see what you're doing you RJJ stan:forreal:


Beat it with the lies:camby:........resumes don't lie:umad:




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Again:ufdup:






Get outta here with your lies...trying to pump up RJJ's opponents to be better than SOG. Beat it with those lies:camby:

You gon really sit here and pretend like you know anything about boxing outside of the "modern" era and act as if you're really qualified to have this discussion with me? :heh:

I've NEVER seen you discuss anything outside of current boxers on this board...you don't have the knowhow to discuss this topic properly with me

If it was Pat, Suikoden or somebody i'd entertain it...but YOU? :usure:
 

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You gon really sit here and pretend like you know anything about boxing outside of the "modern" era and act as if you're really qualified to have this discussion with me? :heh:

I've NEVER seen you discuss anything outside of current boxers on this board...you don't have the knowhow to discuss this topic properly with me

If it was Pat, Suikoden or somebody i'd entertain it...but YOU? :usure:


And you would be lying as you usually do. Me & @hyperman25 first back and forths on here were mainly about the 80s Welters, nobody discusses the 90s Boxers on here, and I would assume youre saying modern as in 2000s - today, which is now, so dont try and move the goal posts, again, bc you dont have a rebuttal:camby:



http://www.thecoli.com/search/7743290/?page=2&q=80s&o=relevance&c[node]=41&c[user][0]=1944


But I dont talk about any other era:childplease:



Now, since you wanna duck & dodge the fact that Ward's resume is better by trying to move goal posts like this is TLR.....I'll repost THE FACTS again :ufdup:


Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this:hhh:




Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter:ufdup:




Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this:scust:




Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.



C8l3RfNXcAA4kbx.jpg





#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season:ahh:




#SOGGang



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Get outta here with your lies...trying to pump up RJJ's opponents to be better than SOG, I see what you're doing you RJJ stan:forreal:


Beat it with the lies:camby:........resumes don't lie :umad:



Move goal posts because you get called out on your "boxing eyes" saying Ward isnt a great fighter:hhh:



#SOGGang



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Man...just keep this dude in his own :trash: ass generic eurocac filled era...and leave it at that.

aight?

A nikka that don't even know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher trying to appear "knowledgable" about the sport
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Man...just keep this dude in his own :trash: ass generic eurocac filled era...and leave it at that.

aight?

A nikka that don't even know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher trying to appear "knowledgable" about the sport
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Make a post directed towards someone and be afraid to quote them brehs:mjlol:


You might as well had just said "leave me alone @Newzz :mjcry:".....:russ:


Now, I dont know the difference between a swarmer & a boxer-puncher? Wow lol:dead:


This is exactly what moving goal posts look like brehs....he cant respond to shyt, so he keeps tossing out random claims that could easily be refuted by a quick search, like the last one, just to get my foot off his neck:mjlol:


I bet you from Maryland aint you:heh:


Next time, dont disrespect SOG's greatness and I wont have to attack your "boxing eyes" in front of everyone....out here putting Andre Ward on the same level as Frankie Liles:hhh:



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Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this:hhh:




Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter:ufdup:




Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this:scust:




Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.



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#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season:ahh:




#SOGGang



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Don't take the bait fam I saw it and immediately went :birdman:

then fell back n didn't even respond. Undisciplined Toney takes an L and so does BHop as much as I love him guys with his size n very good jabs give him problems.

Of course he loses to Roy at lightweight nikka you would have a tough time finding someone that beats him in his prime in all of boxing that aint no slouch on Ward. :yeshrug:

If SOG retires tonight he is HOF status already and there's nothing they could do about it. :ahh:

The man who ruined and turned Bad Chad Dawson into Sad Chad Dawson :wow:
 

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Don't take the bait fam I saw it and immediately went :birdman:

then fell back n didn't even respond. Undisciplined Toney takes an L and so does BHop as much as I love him guys with his size n very good jabs give him problems.

Of course he loses to Roy at lightweight nikka you would have a tough time finding someone that beats him in his prime in all of boxing that aint no slouch on Ward. :yeshrug:

If SOG retires tonight he is HOF status already and there's nothing they could do about it. :ahh:

The man who ruined and turned Bad Chad Dawson into Sad Chad Dawson :wow:



Easy work, as Money Mayweather would say:obama:




RJJ is an ATG, we concede that........but that's where it stops. This dude trying to slip in fighters like Frankie Liles as being better than SOG, just because RJJ didn't want no smoke with Liles:sas2:




But don't mind me, I don't know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher:hubie:




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Easy work, as Money Mayweather would say:obama:




RJJ is an ATG, we concede that........but that's where it stops. This dude trying to slip in fighters like Frankie Liles as being better than SOG, just because RJJ didn't want no smoke with Liles:sas2:




But don't mind me, I don't know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher:hubie:




#SOGGang



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Where y'all put him as far as supermiddleweights strictly are concerned? Calzaghe froch benn (although he started around middle I think) etc.... what would top ten supermiddle look like?
 

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No shade, but Ward wasn't even able to get Kovalevs respect with his power, .


If this was the case then why not just steam roll him like he does his other over match opponents :jbhmm:

I mean he dropped him and the 3rd round came and he was fighting scarry for a fighter who had just dropped a guy. Why not go for the kill? I can't wait until Sat #NoExcuses

By the way that's a lovely avi you have there would be a shame for you to lose it in a bet backing kovalev since you so confident and all. :mjgrin:
 
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