ward in comparison to reggie johnson and frankie liles ...id say more reggie than frankie..reggie gave everyone he fought a hard night..except roy
Ward ain't no damn once in a lifetime talent
He would barely even standout in the Jones Jr./Toney/Liles/McClellan/Benn/Eubank era of Super Middles.
I think Ward is maybe a half-step above Reggie Johnson talent & skillwise.
nikka...you act like i'm sayin' Ward being a Reggie Johnson caliber boxer is a knock against Ward.
Reggie Johnson was that nikka...even Willie D knew da sko....
"knocking nikkas out like Reggie Joooooooooohnson" - Willie D
He just sprung up in the wrong era...Reggie would look like a "once in a lifetime talent" in this era...and Ward wouldn't in his...
Ward, skillwise & ability wise is closer to guys like Frankie Liles, Reggie Johnson etc. than a Roy/Toney/B-Hop
He just never passed that eye test of greatness to me.
So easily beating Carl Froch with only 1 hand wasn't enough? Moving up and dispatching both of the "best LHW's" wasn't enough? Cleaning out the entire division at 168, with no problems, wasn't enough? Ward isn't a great fighter to you
And Ward isn't better than RJJ, but he's better than Hopkins & Toney.
And Ward isn't better than RJJ, but he's better than Hopkins & Toney.
"Great" only in the context of his own watered down era of Super Middleweights where his best comp is cavemen (no racial ) like Froch & Kessler
nikka.......
Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this
Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter
Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this
Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.
#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season
#SOGGang
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Again
Get outta here with your lies...trying to pump up RJJ's opponents to be better than SOG. Beat it with those lies
You gon really sit here and pretend like you know anything about boxing outside of the "modern" era and act as if you're really qualified to have this discussion with me?
I've NEVER seen you discuss anything outside of current boxers on this board...you don't have the knowhow to discuss this topic properly with me
If it was Pat, Suikoden or somebody i'd entertain it...but YOU?
Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this
Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter
Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this
Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.
#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season
#SOGGang
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Man...just keep this dude in his own ass generic eurocac filled era...and leave it at that.
aight?
A nikka that don't even know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher trying to appear "knowledgable" about the sport
Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS Bernard Hopkins....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting greatness like this
Then, let's get to James Toney.....the original "it depends if he's focused or not" fighter
Again, Andre Ward's resume DESTROYS James Toney's as well....whether you wanna go by age (at 33 years old) or bouts (31 fights). It's not even a comparison. Disrespecting SOG's greatness like this
Stop it....Ward still has even more to add to his resume to put him even further away on another level than both of them guys.
#1 P4P, undefeated, and it's still "nothing you can do about it" season
#SOGGang
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Don't take the bait fam I saw it and immediately went
then fell back n didn't even respond. Undisciplined Toney takes an L and so does BHop as much as I love him guys with his size n very good jabs give him problems.
Of course he loses to Roy at lightweight nikka you would have a tough time finding someone that beats him in his prime in all of boxing that aint no slouch on Ward.
If SOG retires tonight he is HOF status already and there's nothing they could do about it.
The man who ruined and turned Bad Chad Dawson into Sad Chad Dawson
I believe kkkov already lost to him in the ams
Lost twice to him in his home country too.Twice, and he's hated him ever since
Where y'all put him as far as supermiddleweights strictly are concerned? Calzaghe froch benn (although he started around middle I think) etc.... what would top ten supermiddle look like?Easy work, as Money Mayweather would say
RJJ is an ATG, we concede that........but that's where it stops. This dude trying to slip in fighters like Frankie Liles as being better than SOG, just because RJJ didn't want no smoke with Liles
But don't mind me, I don't know the difference between a swarmer and a boxer-puncher
#SOGGang
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No shade, but Ward wasn't even able to get Kovalevs respect with his power, .