WHO WINS? KOVALEV OR WARD?

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  • KOVALEV by KNOCKOUT

  • KOVALEV by SPLIT DECISION

  • KOVALEV by UNANIMOUS DECISION

  • WARD by KNOCKOUT

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Well I'm not sure what heavy he could accomplish that dream with. For RJJ the timing was perfect cuz Ruiz, a small heavy, had a title. Unfortunately for Ward Wilder, AJ, Fury and Parker are way too big for him. They aren't as skilled as Ward at all, just too big and Ward has no punching power.
I think Ward has enough power to get their respect where none would walk in on him eating shots. To me the tactic he would take to win would be the most interesting.
Would he try to bulk up, or would he go in as he is now with a little more weight and trying to use his speed and potshot.
If anyone could figure out a plan though and execute it would be Ward and Virgil
 

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I think Ward has enough power to get their respect where none would walk in on him eating shots. To me the tactic he would take to win would be the most interesting.
Would he try to bulk up, or would he go in as he is now with a little more weight and trying to use his speed and potshot.
If anyone could figure out a plan though and execute it would be Ward and Virgil

No shade, but Ward wasn't even able to get Kovalevs respect with his power, much less carrying over the power he didnt have at 68 to 75, 200, or 201+. I may come off as biased since I'm picking Kovalev to win but I'm not- No way Ward fights as a heavyweight against a top 10 fighter. The heavys are too big now.
 

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No shade, but Ward wasn't even able to get Kovalevs respect with his power, much less carrying over the power he didnt have at 68 to 75, 200, or 201+. I may come off as biased since I'm picking Kovalev to win but I'm not- No way Ward fights as a heavyweight against a top 10 fighter. The heavys are too big now.
You could have used anything put Kovalev, because Ward shots effected Kovalev so much that he was weak from the body shots and backing away from Ward 2nd half of the fight. You know that right. Hell Kovalev himself admitted he was having problems breathing after the 5th after a body shot.
 

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I don't know, I think Ward might be able to get Deontay if there is a off day, same with Joshua.
He can repeat and one up one of his idols in RJJ

None of the titlists at Heavy are going to sign a fight with Ward whether he wants it or not, because he brings nothing to the table, as far as drawing power or "reverence"...and their stock might drop just for signing or even entertaining a fight with him :pachaha: ...it would be seen as a complete joke of a fight even though he might be able to actually beat somebody like Joseph Parker....

You can't compare him to Roy who was seen as head & shoulders above his comp and much more revered...People thought Roy was damn there invincible at Light Heavyweight Pre-Ruiz...so it was much easier for the public buy into the idea that he could actually compete with Heavyweights...Ward has done nothing to earn that type of status or give you the idea that he can compete with a Heavyweight...if he Montell Griffin'd Kovalev in the rematch...shyt might change
 

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None of the titlists at Heavy are going to sign a fight with Ward whether he wants it or not, because he brings nothing to the table, as far as drawing power or "reverence"...and their stock might drop just for signing or even entertaining a fight with him :pachaha: ...it would be seen as a complete joke of a fight even though he might be able to actually beat somebody like Joseph Parker....

You can't compare him to Roy who was seen as head & shoulders above his comp and much more revered...People thought Roy was damn there invincible at Light Heavyweight Pre-Ruiz...so it was much easier for the public buy into the idea that he could actually compete with Heavyweights...Ward has done nothing to earn that type of status or give you the idea that he can compete with a Heavyweight...if he Montell Griffin'd Kovalev in the rematch...shyt might change
I remember the Roy fight, the man was still an underdog going against Ruiz if I remember correctly, but Ruiz as said earlier was seen as a winnable fight, plus it was the best fight Ruiz could get himself that was considered safe.
That said if it could be done I would love to see it and I think Wilder or Joshua would take it because they would rightfully view it as easy money.
 

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I remember the Roy fight, the man was still an underdog going against Ruiz if I remember correctly, but Ruiz as said earlier was seen as a winnable fight, plus it was the best fight Ruiz could get himself that was considered safe.
That said if it could be done I would love to see it and I think Wilder or Joshua would take it because they would rightfully view it as easy money.

I don't think there's any money or real interest or incentive to even make those fights on all sides...that's what i'm saying.

Barring a Montell Griffin'ing of Kovalev.
 

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Run coward. :camby:

Don't mention your fictitious boxing career anywhere on here either fuccboi.






Keep glossing over questions about your boxing skills fam. It's not my place to expose you cuz apparently that's already happened and you already lied about it to cover up and they already didn't believe you and still dont. So I'm just sitting back and letting the nikkas who know the cowardice in your blood stream the best spill all the tea. But @mr. smoke weed Is cool people's so outta respect for him and others ima let you simmer in your whirlpool of deceit deception and just focus on the boxing.
@krackdagawd has posted numerous videos of himself on this site already though:dwillhuh:.....and as far as I know, he's never claimed to be a pro boxer...only that he's trained. I never looked at you funny until you posted them youtube videos of an obvious racist accusing ward of being on steroids and saying he wasn't enrolled in vada when it was a flat out lie. so you're the one who took it to some other shyt and opened the floodgates on yourself. then you're trying to be on some "b b but i'm just trying to talk about the fight guys":francis:.......you can't post racist youtube videos then try to play victim when dudes shyt on you.:yeshrug:
 

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I don't think there's any money or real interest or incentive to even make those fights on all sides...that's what i'm saying.

Barring a Montell Griffin'ing of Kovalev.
montell griffin had nothing to do with the RJJ fight at HW so you bringing up that fight makes no sense to me.
There is money in the spectle of a fighter from Lt Hw moving up to face a HW, especially if its a champion at LT HW and say a undefeated champion like Ward would be assuming he beats Kovalev again.
Thats easy money for any HW titlist to take, being honest and looking at some of the guys they face, I can't see any of them passing it up outside of unifying, which it seems 2 of the 3 big champs don't want to do.
 

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You could have used anything put Kovalev, because Ward shots effected Kovalev so much that he was weak from the body shots and backing away from Ward 2nd half of the fight. You know that right. Hell Kovalev himself admitted he was having problems breathing after the 5th after a body shot.

Difference of opinion than bro cuz I feel Kovalev was more affected by the overtraining and 14 miles he was running daily during training than the body shots, which I'm not discounting at all. They played their part too. But I don't recall Ward walking down Kovalev at all. Kovalev admitting to being dead after the 6th but he stated that was due to overtraining, not body shots.
 

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montell griffin had nothing to do with the RJJ fight at HW so you bringing up that fight makes no sense to me.
There is money in the spectle of a fighter from Lt Hw moving up to face a HW, especially if its a champion at LT HW and say a undefeated champion like Ward would be assuming he beats Kovalev again.
Thats easy money for any HW titlist to take, being honest and looking at some of the guys they face, I can't see any of them passing it up outside of unifying, which it seems 2 of the 3 big champs don't want to do.


Not claiming it did.

Point is... he's going to have to put on some type of a lopsided clinic if he wants to make a fight with a Heavyweight "attractive"

Squeeking by with a close decision ain't gon cut it.
 

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@krackdagawd has posted numerous videos of himself on this site already though:dwillhuh:.....and as far as I know, he's never claimed to be a pro boxer...only that he's trained. I never looked at you funny until you posted them youtube videos of an obvious racist accusing ward of being on steroids and saying he wasn't enrolled in vada when it was a flat out lie. so you're the one who took it to some other shyt and opened the floodgates on yourself. then you're trying to be on some "b b but i'm just trying to talk about the fight guys":francis:.......you can't post racist youtube videos then try to play victim when dudes shyt on you.:yeshrug:

What are you talking about kid? Fall back now before you jump out the window. I'm the wrong one fam. You're not involved so stay outta this. Cuz for your information all this started when he called me a c00n and I came back at him. And in terms of the vid, I came across those vids online and brought them here for discussion. I never accused Ward of anything or stated that what was said in the vids was true. I LITERALLY posted them here, asked everybody for their thoughts. Once the vids were debunked I thanked the person who debunked them and kept it moving. Aren't we supposed to discuss all matters regarding Ward vs Kovalev 2?! And what makes the video racist furthermore!?!?! Did I miss something in it cuz I didn't even watch them through. I thought all he was saying was Ward was on PEDs.
 
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Not claiming it did.

Point is... he's going to have to put on some type of a lopsided clinic if he wants to make a fight with a Heavyweight "attractive"

Squeeking by with a close decision ain't gon cut it.
I disagree mainting his 0 and moving up would make it huge in my opinion, and like I said most heavyweight title holder would jump at the chance for the easy check.

Difference of opinion than bro cuz I feel Kovalev was more affected by the overtraining and 14 miles he was running daily during training than the body shots, which I'm not discounting at all. They played their part too. But I don't recall Ward walking down Kovalev at all. Kovalev admitting to being dead after the 6th but he stated that was due to overtraining, not body shots.
Yep we saw the fight differently and I took what Kovalev said differently than you did.
 

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What are you talking about kid? Fall back now before you jump out the window. I'm the wrong one fam. You're not involved so stay outta this. Cuz for your information I came across those vids online and brought them here for discussion. I never accused Ward of anything or stated that what was said in the vids was true. I LITERALLY posted them here, asked everybody for their thoughts. Once the vids were debunked I thanked the person who debunked them and kept it moving. Aren't we supposed to discuss all matters regarding Ward vs Kovalev 2?! And what makes the video racist furthermore!?!?! Did I miss something in it cuz I didn't even watch them through.
did you even watch the video?:dahell:......or the other vids people posted of the SAME youtuber clearly being on some racist shyt......and shut your lame ass up. "i'm the wrong one":mjlol:.....you not scaring anybody so save that dumb shyt



YOU posted those videos accusing ward of being a cheater for no other reason then to get people in here riled up. YOU posted videos of some racist euro cac accusing ward of not being enrolled in vada when it was absolute bullshyt. don't try to play the victim now begging posters to feel sorry for you. you want to keep it about the fight then keep it about the fight. YOU brought in the extra shyt when people were simply trying to discuss the fight. when you do that don't be surprised when some people don't fukk with you. it's that simple.
 
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