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I always felt Paul Wall, Face, and Bun B was the true snakes behind that Flip vs. T.I. beef. Paul Wall was feeding T.I. the list of all Flip past enemies like Lil 3rd. Lil Flex said T.I. tried to get him involved in that bullshytt. I think Face was still salty that Flip didn't sign with Def Jam South. Especially when he was on T.I. mixtape talking about how he never seen Flip in the hood of Houston, but Face was the same niggga trying to sign Flip to Def Jam South. I remember C-Note and Wil Lean got at Face about it. And Face told them that it was a big misunderstanding. Also, I heard Pimp C was mad at Bun B for being on that T.I. mixtape.


I don't know how anyone in Houston can respect Paul Wall for the snake shytt he did against Chamillionaire and Flip. I felt that snake shytt is what really fukked up Houston at the end.

I always felt Paul Wall, Face, and Bun B was the true snakes behind that Flip vs. T.I. beef. Paul Wall was feeding T.I. the list of all Flip past enemies like Lil 3rd. Lil Flex said T.I. tried to get him involved in that bullshytt. I think Face was still salty that Flip didn't sign with Def Jam South. Especially when he was on T.I. mixtape talking about how he never seen Flip in the hood of Houston, but Face was the same niggga trying to sign Flip to Def Jam South. I remember C-Note and Wil Lean got at Face about it. And Face told them that it was a big misunderstanding. Also, I heard Pimp C was mad at Bun B for being on that T.I. mixtape.


I don't know how anyone in Houston can respect Paul Wall for the snake shytt he did against Chamillionaire and Flip. I felt that snake shytt is what really fukked up Houston at the end.

nah paul wall was jus at the wrong place at the wrong time...paul had nuthin to do with the feedin info...tell u the truth paul was helpin hawk put nikkas from flip hood n school on...flip knew poppy n scooby was the mic wreckers at worthing...he never did shyt...

face the one who was on the phone..with tip..givin up names n phone numbers..

paul..was there for flip when he got shot...paul has a bullet with flip name tatted on him...thats how down for flip was...

paul was both flip n tip dj ....both of em tried to make him choose..but he didnt...did his job...made tip his grill...n got back on his grind with hawk n the grit boys...

paul stayed in the hood...if anybody felt paul was a snake about the whole situation ...cloverland...sa n southlea is literally 20 mins apart...n wasnt nuthin for flip to call a couple of trae slab/abn nikkas..who stayed in paul hood...to handle em..

hell pokey hood right on the other side of 610....easy as it was to set up hawk n fat pat up...u dont think its possible to set up a known nawfsider up...paul aint never had problems in the south...nikka foreign rides sit in the hood..aint nobody ever did shyt to em..

bun hoe ass jus friendly as fukk... face the blame..he the one who was recorded...

c-note n d-red was shyttin on flip be4 the ti beef...the beef shyt happen...c-note n d-red rydin with flip...

flip was runnin around sayin when he see paul he was gone drop em...paul is never hard to find..the lil dorky white bible carryin white boy nikkas laughed at wasnt no punk...he knew where tv johnny shop was...coulda easily set it up...

paul got his money n left both of them nikkas alone..

he had nikkas...n if he had a problem he wasnt scared to swing..



ro got them 2 together ...flip aint throw one punch...but he did sneak diss em...tombout him floppin him bein on koch...when til this day...paul is the only houston nikka who got signed in 04-05..still with his deal...and has put more underground houston cats on his albums than flip ever did..

flip was a hoe for not respectin paul decision to not get involve...paul not a battle rapper...he a money machine...



paul n cham... that shyt was bound to happen ..it was never no snake shyt...paul got fed up..cham got a dictator mentality ...

he jus left..paid n full had a bunch of shyt with them nikkas...cham didnt want it released jus off the strength they aint cool...paul didnt care..it was money...they wouldve released it any way...

it was bunch of he say she say shyt...interviewes ask about em...they both wish each other the best..kept it movin...paul wasnt thinkin bout cham n vice versa...

fans n the nikkas around em kept up the bullshyt...they had songs with mutual friends out ...like oh no with trae...n nikkas in they circles kept tha bullshyt goin...

its 2 sides of ever story....n the only person who was nuetral to paul n cham was 50/50...he would tell u that shyt was bound to happen what i said...

if u was ever around em doin the kappas relays the classics....n shyt..u will see cham treated all them nikkas like he was daddy...n it was 3 that was hardheaded...
 
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What happened in that ti lil flip fight? Was flip about that life?

he showed up...its a video...with nikkas who aint got shyt do with flip...who cant stand lil 3rd kinfolk...who was protectin tip...

who talks about it n said...they was shocked when flip jumped out with c-note...

 
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he fell back..instead of keep goin n did him..

i mean look how rick ross did...thru all the co fraud shyt...he kept goin none of that shyt stopped em..

flip stopped

That really sucks, because I feel like he could make some noise in today's climate. Now he's :flabbynsick: literally and figuratively.
 

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nah paul wall was jus at the wrong place at the wrong time...paul had nuthin to do with the feedin info...tell u the truth paul was helpin hawk put nikkas from flip hood n school on...flip knew poppy n scooby was the mic wreckers at worthing...he never did shyt...

face the one who was on the phone..with tip..givin up names n phone numbers..

paul..was there for flip when he got shot...paul has a bullet with flip name tatted on him...thats how down for flip was...

paul was both flip n tip dj ....both of em tried to make him choose..but he didnt...did his job...made tip his grill...n got back on his grind with hawk n the grit boys...

paul stayed in the hood...if anybody felt paul was a snake about the whole situation ...cloverland...sa n southlea is literally 20 mins apart...n wasnt nuthin for flip to call a couple of trae slab/abn nikkas..who stayed in paul hood...to handle em..

hell pokey hood right on the other side of 610....easy as it was to set up hawk n fat pat up...u dont think its possible to set up a known nawfsider up...paul aint never had problems in the south...nikka foreign rides sit in the hood..aint nobody ever did shyt to em..

bun hoe ass jus friendly as fukk... face the blame..he the one who was recorded...

c-note n d-red was shyttin on flip be4 the ti beef...the beef shyt happen...c-note n d-red rydin with flip...

flip was runnin around sayin when he see paul he was gone drop em...paul is never hard to find..the lil dorky white bible carryin white boy nikkas laughed at wasnt no punk...he knew where tv johnny shop was...coulda easily set it up...

paul got his money n left both of them nikkas alone..

he had nikkas...n if he had a problem he wasnt scared to swing..

Paul Wall Beats Fan with a Microphone - YouTube

ro got them 2 together ...flip aint throw one punch...but he did sneak diss em...tombout him floppin him bein on koch...when til this day...paul is the only houston nikka who got signed in 04-05..still with his deal...and has put more underground houston cats on his albums than flip ever did..

flip was a hoe for not respectin paul decision to not get involve...paul not a battle rapper...he a money machine...



paul n cham... that shyt was bound to happen ..it was never no snake shyt...paul got fed up..cham got a dictator mentality ...

he jus left..paid n full had a bunch of shyt with them nikkas...cham didnt want it released jus off the strength they aint cool...paul didnt care..it was money...they wouldve released it any way...

it was bunch of he say she say shyt...interviewes ask about em...they both wish each other the best..kept it movin...paul wasnt thinkin bout cham n vice versa...

fans n the nikkas around em kept up the bullshyt...they had songs with mutual friends out ...like oh no with trae...n nikkas in they circles kept tha bullshyt goin...

its 2 sides of ever story....n the only person who was nuetral to paul n cham was 50/50...he would tell u that shyt was bound to happen what i said...

if u was ever around em doin the kappas relays the classics....n shyt..u will see cham treated all them nikkas like he was daddy...n it was 3 that was hardheaded...


Chamillionaire said in an interview that Paul was going around to different record labels, saying to not sign him, etc. Mike Jones co-signed this later on, saying Paul was going around shytting on Cham to people in the industry. I don't know how true that is but, Cham is on record for saying this.:yeshrug:
 

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Flip still didn't turn his back on Face after that bullshyt with TI, and all in all I think Face got paid for that phone call. Flip was seen with Scarface like the week after at the beach party in Galveston.

I didn't like how Houston kind of turned their back on Flip during that TI bullshyt. Was kind of a disgrace, but IMO a lot of people had ill fillings for Flip because he out of all people went mainstream first. And to say he didn't put people on or try and help people out is kind of an understatement.


Yeah I just always assumed nikkas had to not have liked Flip for a valid reason,hard to believe EVERYBODY who wuz upncoming or legends already rallied around T.I....it wuznt like nikkas wuz choosing to just stay out of it and not take sides.....TIP wuz campaigning for support and he managed to get that shyt quite easily for a nikka who wuz fairly new and didn't have the roots there Flip did....that's the only reason I couldn't be to down on Face about that call.....other dudes knew TIP wuz campaigning for they support just to embarras Flip in front of his city and show he could get the support of nikkas in that city and that the city wuznt fukin wit Flip like that......dudes knew what T.I wuz doin and they didn't mind helpin T.I embbarrass Flip further during his victory lap.....so I don't know what he did but he either rubbed everybody the wrong way or he just rubbed a few nikkas the wrong way,and since everybody had respect for those few real nikkas they stopped fukin with Flip by association.

I won't say TI just made up the Flip shyt outta thin air,but at sum point early on he knew he ain't have no legs to stand on.
 

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:laugh: yo bbs tim on wos and texastakeover always use to shyt on bun :wow: is it true they fought or some shyt
 

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Yeah I just always assumed nikkas had to not have liked Flip for a valid reason,hard to believe EVERYBODY who wuz upncoming or legends already rallied around T.I....it wuznt like nikkas wuz choosing to just stay out of it and not take sides.....TIP wuz campaigning for support and he managed to get that shyt quite easily for a nikka who wuz fairly new and didn't have the roots there Flip did....that's the only reason I couldn't be to down on Face about that call.....other dudes knew TIP wuz campaigning for they support just to embarras Flip in front of his city and show he could get the support of nikkas in that city and that the city wuznt fukin wit Flip like that......dudes knew what T.I wuz doin and they didn't mind helpin T.I embbarrass Flip further during his victory lap.....so I don't know what he did but he either rubbed everybody the wrong way or he just rubbed a few nikkas the wrong way,and since everybody had respect for those few real nikkas they stopped fukin with Flip by association.

I won't say TI just made up the Flip shyt outta thin air,but at sum point early on he knew he ain't have no legs to stand on.


From my understanding, it was mostly on some envy or jealous shytt. Some rappers was mad that Flip didn't put a lot of Houston rappers on the U Gotta Feel Me album, even though he put a lot of Houston rappers on the Undaground Legend album. Flip later said that Sony took off some of the songs that feature other Houston rappers for the U Gotta Feel Me album. Other rappers didn't like how he made himself the Freestyle King by being knighted by DJ Screw. It was a lot of shytt which in my opinion killed the whole DJ Screw/Wattz Houston movement. I always felt that Trae was jealous of Flip and Mike Jones success. Houston would've still be relevant if nikkaz wasn't jealous and put their ego to the side.

Flip still had nikkaz still riding for him during that time like Z-Ro, Chamillionaire, and Pimp C.

The crab in the barrel mentality killed Houston.
 

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I won't say TI just made up the Flip shyt outta thin air,but at sum point early on he knew he ain't have no legs to stand on.

I don't know. T.I. came at Ludacris on some weak bullshytt at the same time over some DTP niggga was supposedly wearing a t-shirt dissing T.I. or Grand Hustle. But T.I. quickly back down after that Young Buck Stomp record. He probably looked at Flip as an easy target. Remember both Flip and Ludacris had a recent platinum albums in May of 2004, while Trap Muzik was still Gold in May of 2004. As T.I. Trap Muzik came out before Flip and Ludacris albums.
 

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Chamillionaire said in an interview that Paul was going around to different record labels, saying to not sign him, etc. Mike Jones co-signed this later on, saying Paul was going around shytting on Cham to people in the industry. I don't know how true that is but, Cham is on record for saying this.:yeshrug:

Cham n mike lied...

Cham on his ol forum when mike slim n Paul all got signed... Said every single time...when members asked him who was he signin with.. Kuz mike n Paul made it n dropped gold n platinum albums..

Cham replied everytime labels r calli. Left n right I'm lookin for the right one...

Paul wasn't in a position to run around talkin to labels execs.. He could do wha mike was doin goin to other artist n talkin down claiming nikkas lazy n shyt..

But gettin labels not to sign em Cham ..is bullshyt ..

Cham fukked up realized it nn signed wit universal kuz they was the only ones left...

Chingo bling retarded ass made fun of Cham a lot on his mixtapes .. When labels was tryin to sign him chingo for president had skits n he had mixtape about it..

Mike n Cham got history of Lyin to face

Mike lied when Cham was dissin em like he didn't kno y .. N he lied n played innocent when trae kicked his ass


Cham lied bout Paul sti bein down
 

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shyt im a huge Willie D fan but Big Mike replacing him in the Geto Boys wasnt that much of a loss to me.

Til Death Do Us Part is my second favorite GB album, that shyt is a classic

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I guess Face felt threatened with him on the label and in the group

It aint GB without my nikka Willie. Although it was a dope ass album, it wasn't the same without my nikka Willie D.
 
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