So what exactly is a tax write off? and how does it benefit a label?

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But the term is often used for hanger-ons/nikkas that will never drop... (i.e Tone Trump with Jeezy)... In that case the money used to sign them is wrote off as an operating cost... Better to look like you have a crew/family then give itto Uncle Sam to build jails or something :smugdraper: Meanwhile u give the impression that ur a boss... A win/win :win:
 

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But the term is often used for hanger-ons/nikkas that will never drop... (i.e Tone Trump with Jeezy)... In that case the money used to sign them is wrote off as an operating cost... Better to look like you have a crew/family then give itto Uncle Sam to build jails or something :smugdraper: Meanwhile u give the impression that ur a boss... A win/win :win:

So basically the money you losing by signing an artists and paying for certain things you were going to lose to taxes anyways...:ehh:makes cents.
 

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So basically the money you losing by signing an artists and paying for certain things you were going to lose to taxes anyways...:ehh:makes cents.

:mjpls: Wont ask u how

The funny thing is how gassed some of these artist become over these tax shortcuts :heh:
 

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My nikka Cole Cash saved a whole meme with this one.

haha, i used to sell insurance for two years, it was commission only, its good when its good but when its slow it devastating and brings in literally no money, but come tax time everything from my gas mileage to the food i eat, i saved every receipt, i got a couple thousand back from the government because of it i know alot of cats on here have likely either never done their taxes or dont understand how the system works so i figured id help out. im no expert but thats a general idea of how it works.
 

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It's also known as signing bow wow to cash money
 

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And here I thought everyone on the-coli were ballers who had portfolios and understood shyt like capital gains and capital losses

o okay....so the 44,000 is non-taxed because they lost revenue :smugdraper:

The 44k isn't non taxed per se, you just deduct it from your revenue.

Def Jam makes 10m in revenue for the year (that's profit)
Assuming their corp tax rate is 10% (it's not but it's just easier) they'll owe the gov't 1m in taxes.

They invest 3m into 2 chainz and don't make a penny back :damn:
Now their revenue is 7m and owe only 700k in taxes.

There's also probably crazy loopholes you can leverage by having a team of accountants do the shyt for you and lowering your effective tax rate from 10% to say 7% (allowing you to keep an extra 300k).

Individuals can do the same with income tax. It's why it's good to invest in your retirement and shyt. You get to save money long term, and potentially lower the rate which you'll be taxed at (15% instead of 18%)
 

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BUT it still isn't AT ALL good business sense for a label to have tax write-offs, because they ACTUALLY HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY EVERY YEAR to write it off every year. so it's a way to minimize their losses, but they still LOST that $50,000 that they no longer have to pay $5-10,000 in taxes for.

where it ACTUALLY works is when they AREN'T actually paying for these studio costs, promo, expenses, etc, -- they'll trade within their own businesses: rent their own studio BUT THEN STILL CHARGE IT OFFICIALLY at say $2,000 an hour, but off the record no money changed hands. & Then they'll still charge that same fake $2,000 to the artist & run up a debt on them. Then if the artist ever somehow manages to blow up eventually, then all them fake expenses still GETS RE-COUPED OUT THE ARTISTS BUDGET & ROYALTIES!:lolbron:
Meanwhile, even if they never blow, the Label gets to not pay taxes on money that they didn't actually lose.:ohhh:

But that's STILL not that great a look, cuz they still gotta pay the Engineers & make sure that the studio is making $$$$. Or pay their marketing department (unless they're interns!), etc. So, if they reaallll shady then they can write-off shyt that never happened AT ALL. Shelf the artist entirely, stop spending any money, but for Tax purposes keep writing off fake expenses. Keep em under contract for that, & the fear that maybe they'd pull a 50 Cent & blow up elsewhere & make them look dumb...



OR, if they're really actually just weedcarriers for their boy that's a legit star, then the star might be fine with continuously cashing their wack-rappin ass buddies out, just to keep em around & employed. They were getting cashed out anyways, so that makes business sense to pretend they rap too, & be able to claim it as tax write-offs.
 

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There's another layer to the tax strategy too tho that has to do with timing and things like that. Tax rates and share price for publically traded companies is also tied into it. In other words this shyt is DEEP but it def affects how and when a label will put an album out.

For example during an especially profitable quarter, I.e. Taylor swift drops, a label may be willing to also take a loss in that quarter, where as in a bad year a label may put extra pressure on a superstar artist to drop an album to help out the books. When jayz put out a #1 album every year that wasn't always because he felt creative, that was lyor and them. Also when dmx first came out and he dropped his second album in the same year as his first, that was also the label pushing hard because there was a special financial incentive that year (I think that was the year def jam was sold?).
 
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