So what does the penalty for not providing insurance through Obamacare fund????
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Obamacare's average monthly cost across U.S.: $328
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013...3P20130925?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
I think it's safe to say most young people will take the fine
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013...3P20130925?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
I think it's safe to say most young people will take the fine
he promised universal healthcare
Exchanges that are not set up by the state(mostly republican) are then set up by the federal government. That is how you get closer to single payer, by having the federal governement directly offer the health insurance. And like others have said, you set yourself up for let down by expecting so much. Obamacare is already a huge step in the right direction people need to stfu about single payer already, it's not going to be passed anytime soon with the tea party running the conservative part of the US.
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You guys do know there will be subsidies right?
400% of the poverty level (92k) a year for a family of 4 and you get some shyt paid for.
seeing as the median income in america is below 50k most people aren't goign to have to pay that full max amount. Those that do, if their employeer provided insurance chances are they'd be paying about $300 bucks in insurance premiums as well. BTW you can still have 2.5k take out in non taxible income and put into a spending account to cover medical costs. That shyt is great btw if you're not doing it you're a moron anyway.
An honest look at how much "out of pocket" this is going to cost returns non WILD numbers IMHO. When I was making 40k a year AND had an employeer giving me insurance I was still paying $150+ per paycheck to buy that insurance. The difference I see with obamacare is that there will at least be some subsidies.
The average person goes something like TWICE to the hospital a year, that's not babies, or elderly who are up in the 6-9 range. The average hospital visit, including doctors fees (not including ambulance fees) is something around 1.3k a visit. that's 2.5k a year.
2.5/12 = $208 a month.
most people gonna pay it somewhere somehow anyways, might as well have the coverage when you need it. And again, the chief complaint hospitals used to provide for their CRAZY PRICES was recovery of revenue on bills they were stiffed for. This should resolve this issue and we should see prices go down (though i doubt it.)
400% of the poverty level (92k) a year for a family of 4 and you get some shyt paid for.
seeing as the median income in america is below 50k most people aren't goign to have to pay that full max amount. Those that do, if their employeer provided insurance chances are they'd be paying about $300 bucks in insurance premiums as well. BTW you can still have 2.5k take out in non taxible income and put into a spending account to cover medical costs. That shyt is great btw if you're not doing it you're a moron anyway.
An honest look at how much "out of pocket" this is going to cost returns non WILD numbers IMHO. When I was making 40k a year AND had an employeer giving me insurance I was still paying $150+ per paycheck to buy that insurance. The difference I see with obamacare is that there will at least be some subsidies.
The average person goes something like TWICE to the hospital a year, that's not babies, or elderly who are up in the 6-9 range. The average hospital visit, including doctors fees (not including ambulance fees) is something around 1.3k a visit. that's 2.5k a year.
2.5/12 = $208 a month.
most people gonna pay it somewhere somehow anyways, might as well have the coverage when you need it. And again, the chief complaint hospitals used to provide for their CRAZY PRICES was recovery of revenue on bills they were stiffed for. This should resolve this issue and we should see prices go down (though i doubt it.)Lol @ the feds offering health insurance being OK, but a single payer being impossible in the context of the tea party. They are the same thing bruh, and the tea party will definitely explain it as such.
And I dont see the tea party going anywhere. There have always been factions in the govt that disagreed with each other. If we have to wait for everyone in the govt to be holding hands before implementing logical programs like single payer health insurance coverage we are worse off than we thought.
Just off the effects of the pooled risk and centralized administration alone single payer is the most logical reason. But people don't seem to want to pursue it because "white folks dont want to help out minorities" and "we have to wait for the tea party to disband before enacting any logical policies". No nikka no!!!
Single payer is what we all want but it wasn't getting passed. Obamacare barely passed, obama is not a dictator and until there are more liberal democrats in the house and senate single payer is not going to happen anytime soon. I don't understand how that is a hard concept to grasp. Republicans will never go for single payer so you better get on some type of mass democrat grassroot campaign tip otherwise shyt won't happen!
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