So we're just going to ignore what the Obama Admin. has done lately?

[Type Username Here]

I took issue with Vic because of this:

You make this same bullshyt thread every 3 months. When are you gonna get it through your thick skull that everybody isn't some uber-paranoid PTSD-stricken ex-military gun-nut Rorshach wannabe staring out the window with binoculars looking for black helicopters to whisk them away into the night like you? It's not a top priority make-or-break issue for most of us, you solipsist nincompoop. Everyone isn't you...thank god.

But look at these previous posts of his regarding the NDAA:

Yeah, this is some crazy shyt. Meta if this isn't about catching terrorists, what reason do you think it's for? I'm against it either way, but I'm just asking why do you think it's being done.

Proof Obama will not veto NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

Yeah I feel exactly the same way. I haven't defended Obama's presidential decisions, but I have defended my decision to vote for his re-election based on a pragmatic view of the political reality we face.

But this makes me question whether I should even bother voting for him again. I understand facing the hurdle of 60 Senate votes to pass any domestic policy initiatives. This is just inexcusable. This is beyond the pale. How is this shyt even constitutional? When it's okay to detain American citizens with no legal counsel, we've officially lost our way. Anybody who defends Obama on this is completely brainwashed.

Cenk's Take On Obama and NDAA. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

Again, why come in this thread calling me paranoid and saying the issue is non-factor, when he felt the same way I did.

Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I took issue with Vic because of this:




But look at these previous posts of his regarding the NDAA:


Proof Obama will not veto NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum



Cenk's Take On Obama and NDAA. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

Again, why come in this thread calling me paranoid and saying the issue is non-factor, when he felt the same way I did.

Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I took issue with Vic because of this:




But look at these previous posts of his regarding the NDAA:


Proof Obama will not veto NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum



Cenk's Take On Obama and NDAA. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

Again, why come in this thread calling me paranoid and saying the issue is non-factor, when he felt the same way I did.

Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

Wow. Victor Von Doom has little integrity in his own beliefs. You are not insane friend. He is a demonic hypocrit. I think he just likes to posture for friends as someone who has lines drawn in the sand but when no ones looking, he erases those lines. Sad. Just goes to show you how some people talk the talk but when its time to walk the walk, they sit down, and then keep talking.

Hes probably scowering the internet right now looking for a post where you said you like jelly only to say you dont like jelly 3 months later.

Its so demonic, friend.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Whoa buddy. No need to get emotional because I defamed your prophet.
How much is Media Matters paying you to be the Democrat's TLOL?

No, moron. You created this same stupid thread for the 348302430 time in a state of heightened emotion yourself, and nobody's defending Obama, I'm defending myself. This is very basic deductive reasoning:

1. TUH insulted people who vote for Obama.
2. VVD is someone voting for Obama.
3. Therefore, TUH insulted VVD.

Is that simple enough for you to follow?

The evidence was laid out. Obama wrote, in his own words, the he had reservations about indefinite detention when the law was passed. He just recently asked for the ban to be overturned. This happened yesterday.

Those are facts. You spent a paragraph attacking my character and failed to address the points on legal grounds.

You're the Timbo of Obama dikk Riding. Bring the facts homeboy.

This thread is some some twilight zone shyt. What exactly is your point? You are against NDAA. I'm against NDAA. NDAA is enough for you to not vote for Obama. NDAA is not enough for me to not vote for Obama. What more is there you really want to say? Do you even have any productive discussion in mind or are you just doing the message board equivalent of jerking off because I'm really not seeing where you're going with this.

I have not contradicted myself once. I don't know what you're trying to prove by pulling up old quotes from me vehemently stating I was against NDAA and that I considered not voting for him when it was announced. You pulling up those quotes undercuts whatever bullshyt argument about being in lockstep with Obama you're attempting to make because they prove I'm critical of him when I don't agree with his policy as I have always been.

Your argument, if you even have one other than just being a grumpy a$$hole, essentially seems to be that YOU are going to draw some arbitrary line in the sand that YOU deem appropriate to which should preclude an Obama vote. Well good for you. I'm not you and everyone else isn't either. Get over it.

I don't like NDAA, but at the end of the day I'm more concerned with jobs, the economy, the banking system, trade agreements, credit cards, mortgages, student loans, fiscal policy, etc.

Now here's where I prove how full of shyt you are like I promised. You're saying nobody should vote for Obama because of the precedent he's setting with curtailing civil liberties, and if they are they're brainwashed dikkriders turning a blind eye to the Constitution.

Now here's you less than a month ago...

Greatest President of all time. fukk the noise. He had some flaws but he was a visionary.

Dude came from the ultimate political family of the time and had a load of money but still cared about the lower and middle class.

There is a reason the Business Plot tried to execute a coup of his government.

The Presidents from FDR through LBJ had absolute balls when it came to social and middle class issues. Ike too, considering he was a republican.

lol...FDR threw 150,000 American citizens in interment camps. But wait, Obama's shredding the Constitution! You're brainwashed if you vote for him! Your entire argument is rendered useless now.

 

[IGSaint12]

Almost every president in united states history probably did some grimey shyt that you would not be proud of thats the circumstances of the executive office of the united states. They are often privy to things we don't know and for example, just like victor said FDR had internment camps. Lincoln himself may have freed the slaves but he took away civil liberties as well, that does not mean that I won't vote for obama or that I dislike FDR or Lincoln anyless. I don't think a president has to be perfect for you to vote for him, in the op's mind maybe but not mine.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I took issue with Vic because of this:




But look at these previous posts of his regarding the NDAA:


Proof Obama will not veto NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum



Cenk's Take On Obama and NDAA. . . - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

Again, why come in this thread calling me paranoid and saying the issue is non-factor, when he felt the same way I did.

Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

Are you smoking crack? Same thing for the people responding to this shyt as if he's actually making a point.

There is no hypocrisy here. I was against NDAA. I'm still against NDAA. NDAA is not enough for me to not vote for Obama. Where the fukk is the hypocrisy? It would be hypocrisy if I did a 180 and said I support NDAA now.

What's completely illogical about this entire line of attack is that you're failing to take into account that NDAA will still occur regardless of whether Obama is President or not.

So, what's your plan to get rid of NDAA? I'll wait...

 

[Type Username Here]

No, moron. You created this same stupid thread for the 348302430 time in a state of heightened emotion yourself, and nobody's defending Obama, I'm defending myself. This is very basic deductive reasoning:

1. TUH insulted people who vote for Obama.
2. VVD is someone voting for Obama.
3. Therefore, TUH insulted VVD.

Is that simple enough for you to follow?



This thread is some some twilight zone shyt. What exactly is your point? You are against NDAA. I'm against NDAA. NDAA is enough for you to not vote for Obama. NDAA is not enough for me to not vote for Obama. What more is there you really want to say? Do you even have any productive discussion in mind or are you just doing the message board equivalent of jerking off because I'm really not seeing where you're going with this.

I have not contradicted myself once. I don't know what you're trying to prove by pulling up old quotes from me vehemently stating I was against NDAA and that I considered not voting for him when it was announced. You pulling up those quotes undercuts whatever bullshyt argument about being in lockstep with Obama you're attempting to make because they prove I'm critical of him when I don't agree with his policy as I have always been.

Your argument, if you even have one other than just being a grumpy a$$hole, essentially seems to be that YOU are going to draw some arbitrary line in the sand that YOU deem appropriate to which should preclude an Obama vote. Well good for you. I'm not you and everyone else isn't either. Get over it.

I don't like NDAA, but at the end of the day I'm more concerned with jobs, the economy, the banking system, trade agreements, credit cards, mortgages, student loans, fiscal policy, etc.

Now here's where I prove how full of shyt you are like I promised. You're saying nobody should vote for Obama because of the precedent he's setting with curtailing civil liberties, and if they are they're brainwashed dikkriders turning a blind eye to the Constitution.

Now here's you less than a month ago...



lol...FDR threw 150,000 American citizens in interment camps. But wait, Obama's shredding the Constitution! You're brainwashed if you vote for him! Your entire argument is rendered useless now.

I already said this pages ago.

FDR and Jefferson absolutely violated the constitution.

Here's my post from a few pages ago.

All I am saying is that this current behavior is unconstitutional. It may just be used for "terrorists", but is that a chance we are willing to take?

Look people, I understand that no President is perfect. My two favorite Presidents, Jefferson and FDR were far from perfect. One owned slaves, and the other put American Citizens in interment camps.

The problem I have is no one wants to be honest about it. Not even Obama himself. You heard the things he said on the campaign trail about what the Bush Administration did. You read what he wrote when he signed the bill. He's lying and abusing his power.

As a democracy, we have to take to task when our politicians lie and abuse their powers, no matter if we support them or not. It shouldn't matter if we agree with them or not.

These matters are of serious importance to an institution of governance that is dependent on a social contract.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Wow. Victor Von Doom has little integrity in his own beliefs. You are not insane friend. He is a demonic hypocrit. I think he just likes to posture for friends as someone who has lines drawn in the sand but when no ones looking, he erases those lines. Sad. Just goes to show you how some people talk the talk but when its time to walk the walk, they sit down, and then keep talking.

Hes probably scowering the internet right now looking for a post where you said you like jelly only to say you dont like jelly 3 months later.

Its so demonic, friend.

lol...did you even read the post, you shizo moron. Where the fukk is the contradiction?

 

[Type Username Here]

Almost every president in united states history probably did some grimey shyt that you would not be proud of thats the circumstances of the executive office of the united states. For example, just like victor said FDR had internment camps, Lincoln himself may have freed the slaves but he took away civil liberties as well, that does not mean that I won't vote for obama or that I dislike fdr or lincoln anyless. I don't think a president has to be perfect for you to vote for him, in the op's mind maybe but not mine.

That's a fair opinion, but to act like my opinion is absolutely worthless is disingenuous.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I already said this pages ago.

FDR and Jefferson absolutely violated the constitution.

Here's my post from a few pages ago.

I know, and you're still contradicting yourself.

The entire premise of your argument is "You are a brainwashed dikkrider if you vote for Obama because he's curtailing civil liberties with NDAA."

Meanwhile, you're worshipping the man who imprisoned 150,000 citizens with no trial and calling him the GOAT President.

Don't try to spin it. You shytted on the entire premise of your argument. It has no credibility.

 

[Type Username Here]

This thread is some some twilight zone shyt. What exactly is your point? You are against NDAA. I'm against NDAA. NDAA is enough for you to not vote for Obama. NDAA is not enough for me to not vote for Obama. What more is there you really want to say? Do you even have any productive discussion in mind or are you just doing the message board equivalent of jerking off because I'm really not seeing where you're going with this.

I have not contradicted myself once.

Here's what you said, again, for the 3rd time:

Yeah I feel exactly the same way. I haven't defended Obama's presidential decisions, but I have defended my decision to vote for his re-election based on a pragmatic view of the political reality we face.

But this makes me question whether I should even bother voting for him again. I understand facing the hurdle of 60 Senate votes to pass any domestic policy initiatives. This is just inexcusable. This is beyond the pale. How is this shyt even constitutional? When it's okay to detain American citizens with no legal counsel, we've officially lost our way. Anybody who defends Obama on this is completely brainwashed.

Your words, not mine.

lol...did you even read the post, you shizo moron. Where the fukk is the contradiction?

It's plain to see for everyone but yourself.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Are people reading TUH's post with my old quotes in some parallel universe or something? I didn't contradict myself. I was strongly opposed to NDAA then and I still am now.

Is there some post of me where I'm llike "Yeah, NDAA, let's get it!" or something somewhere that I typed in my sleep?

 

[Type Username Here]

I know, and you're still contradicting yourself.

The entire premise of your argument is "You are a brainwashed dikkrider if you vote for Obama because he's curtailing civil liberties with NDAA."

Meanwhile, you're worshipping the man who imprisoned 150,000 citizens with no trial and calling him the GOAT President.

Don't try to spin it. You shytted on the entire premise of your argument. It has no credibility.

Not it is not the same thing. Those things happened before I was born. This is currently happening now. I can't go back and change the past, but I can speak my opinion about the present. People are flawed, that's not the issue here. The issue is the absolute lack of accountability and the willful ignorance of what Obama does wrong. That is all.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Here's what you said, again, for the 3rd time:



Your words, not mine.



It's plain to see for everyone but yourself.

Again, are you smoking crack? Where is the contradiction? I said defending Obama on NDAA is inexcusable. Where did I defend Obama on NDAA?

 

[Type Username Here]

Are people reading TUH's post with my old quotes in some parallel universe or something? I didn't contradict myself. I was strongly opposed to NDAA then and I still am now.

Is there some post of me where I'm llike "Yeah, NDAA, let's get it!" or something somewhere that I typed in my sleep?

You contradicted yourself because you said you weren't going to vote for Obama because of it, that the act was unconstitutional and that anyone who defended Obama was brainwashed. Your words.

Yet you came in here calling me an idiot for thinking the issue was of high importance.

You sure thought it was of high importance.