So we gonna act like Ben Affleck wasn't the best Batman since Keaton?

[Kill Dat Noize]

He's not labeled a villain by the story

He's looked at as a villain by Superman and that's only temporary

The audience knows that Batman's suspicions are completely misguided.

He literally wants to kill our hero.

The fight even frames Superman as the sympathetic protagonist.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

The audience knows that Batman's suspicions are completely misguided.

He literally wants to kill our hero.

The fight even frames Superman as the sympathetic protagonist.

No they don't

Most people watching could completely understand why Batman felt the way he did. Whether he was wrong or not, that doesn't label him a villain

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

No they don't

Most people watching could completely understand why Batman felt the way he did. Whether he was wrong or not, that doesn't label him a villain

Superman is not established as a threat to humanity at any point in the film, the audience knows he is a good guy who is misunderstood and being framed.

And Bruce wants to kill him.

 

[King Koopa]

Superman is not established as a threat to humanity at any point in the film, the audience knows he is a good guy who is misunderstood and being framed.

And Bruce wants to kill him.

Batman isn't the only one that doesn't trust Superman. Didn't you catch how divided everyone was? However, Bats was the only one in the film with the balls, skills, and assets to stop him. Superman no threat? You catch that dream sequence? That was an example. And for the majority of the film, people were shook of Supes and wanted him to answer for all that destruction. He was a god to them. Some worshiped him and others feared him. If you compared just the two of em, yeah Superman is usually the more sympathetic and easy going one. It's been like that in the comics too. Batman was always the one hitting dudes with the of distrust lol.

One of the main points of the film was to show the different ideals of the two and how they came to understand each other. Once again, it's no different in the comics either. NO ONE in the film sees Batman as the bad guy other than Superman and Lois for a sec. People see him as a crazed vigilante, but not a villain.

You follow the comics at all? Batman is always considered the extreme one.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Superman is not established as a threat to humanity at any point in the film, the audience knows he is a good guy who is misunderstood and being framed.

And Bruce wants to kill him.

You can't be serious

Throughout the entire movie it's being debated how the world should view Superman

He doesn't have to be established as a threat he's always going to be a threat which is what Bruce was telling Alfred...

But you know what, you always looking for a reason to hate the movie so do you

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Batman isn't the only one that doesn't trust Superman. Didn't you catch how divided everyone was? However, Bats was the only one in the film with the balls, skills, and assets to stop him. Superman no threat? You catch that dream sequence? That was an example. And for the majority of the film, people were shook of Supes and wanted him to answer for all that destruction. He was a god to them. Some worshiped him and others feared him. If you compared just the two of em, yeah Superman is usually the more sympathetic and easy going one. It's been like that in the comics too. Batman was always the one hitting dudes with the of distrust lol.

One of the main points of the film was to show the different ideals of the two and how they came to understand each other. Once again, it's no different in the comics either. NO ONE in the film sees Batman as the bad guy other than Superman and Lois for a sec. People see him as a crazed vigilante, but not a villain.

You follow the comics at all? Batman is always considered the extreme one.

No use explaining to this guy he's been saying the same shyt in the main thread and now bringing it here.

Like he literally didn't pay attention to the entire movie nor what people here tell him. He's just trying to shyt on the movie

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

You can't be serious

Throughout the entire movie it's being debated how the world should view Superman

He doesn't have to be established as a threat he's always going to be a threat which is what Bruce was telling Alfred...

But you know what, you always looking for a reason to hate the movie so do you

You're wrong, the people IN the movie debate whether or not Superman is a threat but the narration never does. He is established firmly as a well meaning guy.

The public is wrong about it him, lex is wrong about him, bruce is wrong about him... and the movie never makes the argument that they could be right. The audience knows from the start that Superman is a good guy who's just misunderstood. And Bruce wants to kill him.

I don't see how Batman isn't an antagonist.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Had my doubt's, but this is the Batman that I wanted to see, shyts all over Bales Batman
If there's a positive about Batman vs Superman (which I enjoyed, but I can understand the negative reviews) is that Batman was portrayed perfectly like the DC animated movies/comics

Ben Affleck is the man

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

No use explaining to this guy he's been saying the same shyt in the main thread and now bringing it here.

Like he literally didn't pay attention to the entire movie nor what people here tell him. He's just trying to shyt on the movie

This

 

[O.T.I.S.]

You're wrong, the people IN the movie debate whether or not Superman is a threat but the narration never does. He is established firmly as a well meaning guy.

The public is wrong about it him, lex is wrong about him, bruce is wrong about him... and the movie never makes the argument that they could be right. The audience knows from the start that Superman is a good guy who's just misunderstood. And Bruce wants to kill him.

I don't see how Batman isn't an antagonist.

so?

And the movie does make the argument... Did you not watch the dream sequence? That was the movie making the argument about Superman possibly turning bad

The audience knows Superman is good, and Bruce doesn't and at that point he doesn't really care. The entire speech to Alfred was that he's seen good guys turn before.

Batman is not a villain in this movie and the audience knows that and the movie makes it clear that he's lost, broken, etc. And again, Bruce has been looked at as a villain in multiple movies/shows/comics/etc., how many times do you need to hear the same shyt?

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

so?

And the movie does make the argument... Did you not watch the dream sequence? That was the movie making the argument about Superman possibly turning bad

The audience knows Superman is good, and Bruce doesn't and at that point he doesn't really care. The entire speech to Alfred was that he's seen good guys turn before.

Batman is not a villain in this movie and the audience knows that and the movie makes it clear that he's lost, broken, etc. And again, Bruce has been looked at as a villain in multiple movies/shows/comics/etc., how many times do you need to hear the same shyt?

who could possibly watch this movie and sides with batman? how can you justify any of the things he does? the guy even ADMITS he fukked up at the end and failed everyone.

superman pleas with batman before they start fighting, but he isn't hearing it. when he unleashes the kryptonite and gets the upper hand on supes, the music gets dark and ominous. when supes regains his strength and throws batman through the wall, the music is stirring and triumphant. there is a distinct effort on behalf of the filmmakers to portray batman as the antagonist. he's wrong and the audience knows it. superman is NEVER portrayed in this movie as anything other than a misunderstood protagonist.

he even takes pleasure in trying to kill him, he's got a shyt eating grin on when they first lock eyes. "you're not brave... men are brave". "you're gonna learn what it feels like to be a man". "breathe it in"... it's like he's a sadist.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

who could possibly watch this movie and sides with batman? how can you justify any of the things he does? the guy even ADMITS he fukked up at the end and failed everyone.

superman pleas with batman before they start fighting, but he isn't hearing it. when he unleashes the kryptonite and gets the upper hand on supes, the music gets dark and ominous. when supes regains his strength and throws batman through the wall, the music is stirring and triumphant. there is a distinct effort on behalf of the filmmakers to portray batman as the antagonist. he's wrong and the audience knows it. superman is NEVER portrayed in this movie as anything other than a misunderstood protagonist.

he even takes pleasure in trying to kill him, he's got a shyt eating grin on when they first lock eyes. "you're not brave... men are brave". "you're gonna learn what it feels like to be a man". "breathe it in"... it's like he's a sadist.

No shyt Batman made a mistake... What's your point?

And you typed all that but WHAT IS YOUR POINT??? Batman wasn't a villain, isn't viewed as one by anyone in the movie or that I know. Batman is wrong but he's not a villain.

Superman is being debated throughout the entire movie whose side is he on and the dream sequence shows the audience (and Batman) what the future could possibly be. What is your point?

 

[King Koopa]

who could possibly watch this movie and sides with batman? how can you justify any of the things he does? the guy even ADMITS he fukked up at the end and failed everyone.

I can see myself siding with Batman if I was in his situation. Especially after that dream/vision he got. Batman admits when he fukks up over and over in the comics and all other forms of media cuz he's stubborn as hell at times.

No shyt Batman made a mistake... What's your point?

And you typed all that but WHAT IS YOUR POINT??? Batman wasn't a villain, isn't viewed as one by anyone in the movie or that I know. Batman is wrong but he's not a villain.

Superman is being debated throughout the entire movie whose side is he on and the dream sequence shows the audience (and Batman) what the future could possibly be. What is your point?

Dude is just stuck on the fact that they made Batman unlikable. I like it that he was, but these people are so used to a certain kind of Batman that it throws them off. He probably doesn't even fukk with DC like that cuz if he did, he should know Batman is always an a$$hole

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Dude is just stuck on the fact that they made Batman unlikable. I like it that he was, but these people are so used to a certain kind of Batman that it throws them off. He probably doesn't even fukk with DC like that cuz if he did, he should know Batman is always an a$$hole

a batman movie that is anti-batman.

boy it's hard to see why this movie doesn't work.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

a batman movie that is anti-batman.

boy it's hard to see why this movie doesn't work.

How was it anti-batman when he was the best part of the movie