Do you know what common sense is?
It's when you link evidence together, and figure things out for yourself.
When one chooses to ignore the links of evidence, they don't really want the truth in the first place.
So we found the Rat:Vilma says former defensive asistant was snitchin
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Do you know what common sense is?
It's when you link evidence together, and figure things out for yourself.
When one chooses to ignore the links of evidence, they don't really want the truth in the first place.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Dog....it's still in court and the fact is that we don't know all the facts as of yet.
see this is the problem, you genuinely dont understand why your position is flawd.
Not onl that, I actually dont know who is right here. I said Goodell was about to take an L tobut my later post said we dont know much of anything until we see the report ourselves.
And right now, in the real world, its still in court so we dont know what the judgement is yet. Another example of why you are stupid and dont realize it.
Well in the real world, coaches have been banned and so have players.
In the real world, the man responsible for the bounty program apologized for it and said he knew what he was doing was wrong.
In the real world a film-maker provided audio and described Williams making gestures of money and saying "Hit him right here, i`ve got the first one"
That's the funny part. For your "We don't know anything" stance to be true, you must ignore everything and assume everyone is a liar.
You have to manipulate something for your truth, I do not.
Ok, so the legality of it isn't settled yet. I`ll give you that. But remember, the cops who beat down Rodney King were considered not guilty.
But if you get accused of doing something, then apologize for it and we have a tape of you talking about doing it in the general sense.
What would common sense tell you? What happened to using common sense
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Then leave it at that.
This evidence of who is the source leaves room to question the validity of the bounty program.
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
I hate Roger Goodell as much as anybody, but to say that the bounty program didn't exist is down right foolish. To get into semantics about the audio doesn't REALLY prove this or that is getting away the fact that Greg Williams was instructing his players to injure other players. Even those people involved have admitted that there was a pool of money involved for certain "plays" on opposing players.
Fujita to Goodell at appeal hearing: “What the hell are you doing, Roger?” | ProFootballTalk
I know exactly what [happened] and what didnt, Fujita said. The problem with this whole thing is that its just an unfortunate situation where you have a defensive coordinator [Gregg Williams] who I like a lot, but said a lot of really vulgar, inappropriate, outlandish things. You couple that with some guys who occasionally throw in some money for big plays which I have admitted to doing and it becomes a perfect storm, and also it comes at a time politically when I think the league was looking for something like this."
Why are we playing semantics when the audio tape combined with the words out of the player's own mouths points directly at a bounty program? And then you add to that, information from a source inside of the Saints locker room? Goodell is a jackass and I really don't like him, but he's not wrong here. The Saints and Greg Williams brought this on themselves.
Fujita to Goodell at appeal hearing: “What the hell are you doing, Roger?” | ProFootballTalk
I know exactly what [happened] and what didnt, Fujita said. The problem with this whole thing is that its just an unfortunate situation where you have a defensive coordinator [Gregg Williams] who I like a lot, but said a lot of really vulgar, inappropriate, outlandish things. You couple that with some guys who occasionally throw in some money for big plays which I have admitted to doing and it becomes a perfect storm, and also it comes at a time politically when I think the league was looking for something like this."
Why are we playing semantics when the audio tape combined with the words out of the player's own mouths points directly at a bounty program? And then you add to that, information from a source inside of the Saints locker room? Goodell is a jackass and I really don't like him, but he's not wrong here. The Saints and Greg Williams brought this on themselves.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
The audio didn't directly point to the bounty program, and no one is saying it didn't exist as it is the burden of proof regarding Vilma's case.
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
Doesn't Fujita for all intents and purposes admit to a bounty program with his statements?
So you would be willing to let everybody involved in this skate because the words "bounty program" was never heard on the audio? Because if you do that means EVERYONE is innocent, including Williams. And he has already admitted his guilt and taken his punishment. BTW, that brings me to another point. How is it that Williams has the most to lose in all this but he is putting up absolutely no resistance? It's not like by implicating his players that he would get a more lenient suspension. Williams has acknowledged and apologized for his role in the bounty program.
Gregg Williams apologizes for “terrible mistake” | ProFootballTalk
“I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, Mr. Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the ‘pay for performance’ program while I was with the Saints,” Williams said. “It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again.”
The words BOUNTY and PROGRAM don't appear in the apology, but come on now Reb. You know exactly what he is apologizing for.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Exactly
PortCityProphet
Follow me to the truth
Did a bounty cause them to lose the game or them gettin out played. A punishment ain't givin them the shot to play in the sb
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I'll repeat!!!
I added regarding Vilma's case to my point later to further clarify my point.
verbaltelekinesis
LWO Joint Chief
Fair enough.