So Vince lost about 400M dollars today

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good article about vince and his response:

WWE Boss Loses Fight for TV Fees - NASDAQ.com

WWE Boss Loses Fight for TV Fees

Holed up backstage during the taping of a recent match, World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon barked instructions into a headset about camera angles before leaping out of his chair to give a pep talk to a heavily-bearded wrestler preparing to do damage in the ring.

The Chairman, as he is known in wrestling circles, can be found most weeks with his sleeves rolled up, orchestrating WWE matches from the so-called gorilla room where wrestlers prep before going on stage. Charged with running the public company he founded, Mr. McMahon is still intimately involved in the product itself, flying to weekly matches in the red-and-black-branded WWE jet and helping craft story lines and characters.

But as he approaches his 69th birthday, questions are emerging about what the future holds for WWE. Its stock plummeted 44% on Friday after Mr. McMahon failed in a high-stakes effort to wring a huge increase in television fees it receives from Comcast Corp.'s NBCUniversal--part of an effort to boost the company's stagnant revenues and declining profits.

The episode highlighted a shortcoming in Mr. McMahon's leadership style: While an unbeatable promoter and a creative genius, Mr. McMahon has at times struggled to master corporate negotiations and dealings with Wall Street.

In recent years, he has bolstered his executive ranks and groomed his son-in-law Paul Levesque--better known to fans as "Triple H"--and his daughter Stephanie McMahon to take bigger roles. But Mr. McMahon, a self-confessed workaholic and the company's controlling shareholder, still makes all the key decisions--both at the corporate level and at events.

At a recent taping, Mr. Levesque, 44, and Ms. McMahon, 37, flanked Mr. McMahon in the gorilla room, studiously observing him in action. After a series of improvised body slams ran long, Mr. Levesque was dispatched with his walkie talkie to reorder the scenes. Mr. McMahon sat jiggling his leg as he sipped an energy drink and directed a sequence involving Fandango, a flamboyant ballroom dancing-themed wrestler he dreamed up after watching "Dancing with the Stars."

The television recordings--"Raw" on USA Network and "Smackdown" on Syfy--are the bread and butter of the business, accounting for around 30% of revenue. The shows' ratings have held steady, and they remain among the most-watched weekly cable-TV programs. The events themselves bring in another 20% of revenue.

Mr. McMahon has spent much of this year renegotiating the television contracts. Determined to get a better deal for wrestling in light of the inflation in sports and event programming, he played hardball in discussions with NBCUniversal, demanding to more than double the value of their previous deal of just shy of $100 million. He looked around for possible alternative TV partners, unsuccessfully, ending up renewing the NBCU deal with an increase that analysts estimate at around 50%--still generous but well short of what Wall Street had come to expect.

The company has also struggled to manage expectations for the launch of an online subscription video service showing WWE programming which Mr. McMahon calls "one of the most important things I've ever done."

Since its launch earlier this year, the WWE Network has drawn more than 660,000 U.S. subscribers and it is on track to reach a goal of one million by year-end, says finance chief George Barrios--one of a band of executives hired to bring more corporate expertise to the Stamford, Conn., company. Long-term, the company expects to draw two million to three million subscribers--a range described as "very conservative" by the effusive chairman. But the company's latest profit guidance implies the network's fixed costs will be much higher than expected, says Daniel Moore, managing director at CJS Securities.

"This management has a history of over-promising and underperforming" adds Bradley Safalow, chief executive of PAA Research, who describes the new online network as a "black hole."

In an emailed statement on Friday, Mr. McMahon defended the company's record: "There should be no confusion on Wall Street as it is extraordinary to have reached more than 660,000 WWE Network subscribers only 42 days after launch, putting us on track to reach 1 million subscribers by the end of the year." He added: "We feel good about nearly doubling the value of our four largest TV deals around the world."

Mr. McMahon has made a career of taking big and risky bets. When he bought his ailing father's wrestling business in 1982, he says he was winging it financially. He took what was a fiercely territorial business and went national.

Today, WWE spans live events ("the heart and soul"); television shows (reaching 13 million U.S. viewers); movies; action figures (John Cena is the top seller); videogames; apparel; and paraphernalia from championship belts to Rey Mysterio's mask. But the competition has become fierce, whether it be videogames or mixed martial arts luring younger viewers.

"Vince's philosophy has always been to stay ahead of the curve," Ms. McMahon said of her father in an interview before this week's events. "One of the secrets to our success is that we listen to our audience and we can do that because we have 320 live events a year."

A key to securing the future of the WWE is characters, says Mr. McMahon. With that in mind, Mr. Levesque, who spent 20 years in the ring and still sometimes appears as Triple H, was put in charge of talent. Last summer, he launched a performance center in Orlando, Florida, where WWE wannabes are put through their paces to see if they have what it takes.

"We were doing nothing to create the future talent," says Mr. Levesque, who says he learned 90% of what he knows from his father-in-law.

Mr. Levesque has made a hard push into recruitment, building relationships with sports leagues including the NFL, NBA and the Olympics. "If you're a hammer thrower and you have a huge personality, what's next when you're done?" he explains. "There aren't a lot of professional hammer throwers."

At the opposite end of the floor of WWE's nondescript headquarters, Ms. McMahon is leading the charge as the chief brand officer. It is a role she took on a few months ago after heading up creative writing and digital media.

Ms. McMahon was at the center of WWE's shift in recent years to a more family-friendly brand, free of curse words and risqué programming like bra-and-panties matches--an effort to broaden its appeal and draw a wider swath of television partners and advertisers, who historically shied from wrestling. The WWE's biggest star, John Cena, morphed from a rapper known for a signature move called the "FU," to a Hulk Hogan-like superhero idolized by young boys--a move he equates to "an R-rated comedian shifting to a Bill Cosby routine."

The question is whether Mr. Levesque and Ms. McMahon--whose in-ring characters these days portray a pair of judgmental co-owners of the WWE--will be able to one day fill Mr. McMahon's shoes. Mr. McMahon, who describes himself as a thickheaded Irish man, says he can't be succeeded by just one person.

"It started out as a one-man band but if this is really going to take off and be everything I think it should be, it can't be one man's vision, " Mr. McMahon said in his distinctively gravelly voice in a recent interview. "If I get hit by a bus, there will be a couple of hiccups along the way but my position would be split into different directions. We have a lot of creative people and a lot of executives of a high caliber."
 

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400,000 bought Mania on PPV, 650,000 bought the Network, so they did good there, its like over a million buys for mania, which is what they always want.

Thinking that 1.5 million will buy the network was totally stupid though.

No it wasn't. They're logic was that 11 mil lion ppl have the WWE app, so if they could convert even just 10%, they'd meet their Network goal. Theroretically it's a very logical idea at only $10 a month, but it hasn't happened. Personally I think they marketed the network improperly, and of course the issues it had initially didn't help convert any of those free traisls
 

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the 1.5 million subs number is worldwide.. which I'm still not sure they will do but it's possible. They are probably around 700K right now in the U.S. maybe a little more but that number will drop once the six months is up because only the true fans like myself or others on the coli, internet, etc.. care about the old school content on the network. For most people it's about the PPVs and it looks like the PPVs are about to be struggle status..

I think they might face a situation where the Network thrives this time of year as opposed to other times. Currently, those of us initial subscribers will have gotten WM30 and SummerSlam. You can't beat that for $60. But what else is after that? Survivor Series isn't a big deal. TLC? ehh....the next big deal is Royal Rumble.

Other thing they're gonna have to do is shutdown as many free streams as possible. During Extreme Rules, I typed in "extreme rules" on twitter and the first two suggestions that popped up were "extreme rules stream link", "extreme rules link". That's not good.

And they also need to realize that most wrestling fans(myself included) DON'T CARE about watching wrestling on their cell-phone or even tablet for the most part. People wanna watch wresting on their TV. So they need to stop pushing that aspect of the Network
 
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I really think the network could still pick up steam and is not necessarily capped out

Yes the launch was disappointing in terms of initial subscriber number and technical issues

Now that the kinks have been worked out, they are adding more content, international fans will be coming on board, the "refer a friend" program will add some new subscribers (+ social media and word of mouth in general) and I'm also willing to wager most people will let their membership auto-renew every 6 months

So say the E can average 50k new subscribers every month, that gets them to 1 million by the end of the year. And statements like "This quarter we witnessed a 20% net increase in subscribers" sound awesome in press releases and investor conferences

Kind of silly that people are already acting like the network is a financial disaster when the reality is it's a work in progress and WWE will be building it as a long term entity for years to come
 

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No it wasn't. They're logic was that 11 mil lion ppl have the WWE app, so if they could convert even just 10%, they'd meet their Network goal. Theroretically it's a very logical idea at only $10 a month, but it hasn't happened. Personally I think they marketed the network improperly, and of course the issues it had initially didn't help convert any of those free traisls
Yes it was. The app is free. I watch as much watch wrestling as anyone in here, and I did not have the App, I downloaded it, saw how gay it was, then deleted it.

So of those 11 million, you have to think 30% of them are kids who do not have a credit card to pay the recurring fee of a network.

So we are down to 7.7. Then another 30% do not have the internet devices/capabilities to stream. Now we are down to 5.3 million.

Another 15% don't want to pay a $10 fee for wrestling they get free every month, down to 4.5 million.

So you are working with 4.5 million people who want to watch MORE wrestling then they already have on TV, which at the time, was 9 hours a week including TNA.

So yes, 1.5 million people was horrible. Hardcore wrestling fans like us probably equal 1 million of that App number, the other 3.5 million people are people who watch, but are not bummed they missed Raw this week. There are tons of people on this board who are like I am not watching Raw next week because this week sucked. People are fickle, and there is not enough diversity on the network to attract all kinds of people. It's just wrestling. All day. All night.
 

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Yes it was. The app is free. I watch as much watch wrestling as anyone in here, and I did not have the App, I downloaded it, saw how gay it was, then deleted it.

So of those 11 million, you have to think 30% of them are kids who do not have a credit card to pay the recurring fee of a network.

So we are down to 7.7. Then another 30% do not have the internet devices/capabilities to stream. Now we are down to 5.3 million.

Another 15% don't want to pay a $10 fee for wrestling they get free every month, down to 4.5 million.

So you are working with 4.5 million people who want to watch MORE wrestling then they already have on TV, which at the time, was 9 hours a week including TNA.

So yes, 1.5 million people was horrible. Hardcore wrestling fans like us probably equal 1 million of that App number, the other 3.5 million people are people who watch, but are not bummed they missed Raw this week. There are tons of people on this board who are like I am not watching Raw next week because this week sucked. People are fickle, and there is not enough diversity on the network to attract all kinds of people. It's just wrestling. All day. All night.

What about only having to pay 10 bucks for WrestleMania?
 
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