So Victor Cruz took SEVEN attempts at the SATs

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:whoa: His score was 220 or at least 620 out of 1600?. Umass doesn't have lax academic requirements. Not even for athletes

Exactly and he was a third year starter and wend to a prep school after hs to get his stock up I guess . He wasn't a hot shot can't miss pay someone else to take the test type of player .
 

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I saw where you had posted that he couldn't score a 220 on the SAT. I think I read that right.

I was trying to be sure that 220 was the actual SAT score required for athletes to get into UMASS

NCAA minimum use to be 620. Not sure what it is now and I'm not about to look for it. But 400 is the minimum score. So essentially he needed 220 points.

The NCAA score use to be based on a sliding scale. So if you had a 2.0 you need a 1010 up to 3.0 where you could get a 620. So realistically he probably needed in the 7-850 range since I doubt, as an athlete, he had a 2.0 GPA. Teachers probably gave him some Bs (or he earned them :troll: ) and he got an A in athletics, so he probably had a 2.5 or so.
 

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smh....my first time taking it i got a 1200, my 2nd time taking it i got an 800

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NCAA minimum use to be 620. Not sure what it is now and I'm not about to look for it. But 400 is the minimum score. So essentially he needed 220 points.

The NCAA score use to be based on a sliding scale. So if you had a 2.0 you need a 1010 up to 3.0 where you could get a 620. So realistically he probably needed in the 7-850 range since I doubt, as an athlete, he had a 2.0 GPA. Teachers probably gave him some Bs (or he earned them :troll: ) so he probably had a 2.5 or so.

Ok, I see what you're saying now. My whole thing is that idiot is a very strong word(in my opinion) and not doing well on a standardized test should not warrant someone being called an idiot. Just my 2 pennies.
 

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Ok, I see what you're saying now. My whole thing is that idiot is a very strong word(in my opinion) and not doing well on a standardized test should not warrant someone being called an idiot. Just my 2 pennies.

You're right. Not doing well on a standardized test once or twice or maybe three times is not grounds for being labeled an idiot. But failing to score the NCAA minimum 6 times is. :heh:

Just bullshytting. He's probably a smart dude but I wouldn't be surprised if he has sort of undiagnosed learning disability like Dyslexia or ADD.
 

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Is English Cruz's first language?
Is he brain damaged?
Is Vic's vocab miniscule?
Can VC do math from arithm to alg 2? Is ol' boy learning disabled?
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But JFK Jr had to take the NY legal bar 3 times. Passed after testing in an empty room alone. Dunno if he was given extra time. >_>
 

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I worked for a long time in test prep, specifically for the SAT. I don't know Vic and i've learned not to call people in this situation idiots, but he definitely has some type of learning disability or serious lack of fundamental education for him to have to take the test that many times to get a relatively low score. i've worked with a fair amount of aspiring D-1 athletes who need to improve grades and test scores to play college ball, and I can say with full confidence that while everyone has some type of intelligence that the classroom often does not cover or require, you have to be VERY lacking in VERY basic skills to need the help he (and they) got.

i agree with an inherent bias, although i'd call it socioeconomic and not cultural, but we're not talking about a glass ceiling of 1800 out of 2400 here. we're talking about relatively low scores that the ncaa honestly sets too low, if anything (if they set it higher, they'd lose millions).

again, this is not a judgment of vic, more power to a guy that didn't need formal education to achieve great success. but it is the truth. dude can't read, most likely :yeshrug:. and not "not read" like dexter manley, not knowing phonics and letters and shyt, but reading as in being able to comprehend, paraphrase, and respond critically.
 

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I worked for a long time in test prep, specifically for the SAT. I don't know Vic and i've learned not to call people in this situation idiots, but he definitely has some type of learning disability or serious lack of fundamental education for him to have to take the test that many times to get a relatively low score. i've worked with a fair amount of aspiring D-1 athletes who need to improve grades and test scores to play college ball, and I can say with full confidence that while everyone has some type of intelligence that the classroom often does not cover or require, you have to be VERY lacking in VERY basic skills to need the help he (and they) got.

i agree with an inherent bias, although i'd call it socioeconomic and not cultural, but we're not talking about a glass ceiling of 1800 out of 2400 here. we're talking about relatively low scores that the ncaa honestly sets too low, if anything (if they set it higher, they'd lose millions).

again, this is not a judgment of vic, more power to a guy that didn't need formal education to achieve great success. but it is the truth. dude can't read, most likely :yeshrug:. and not "not read" like dexter manley, not knowing phonics and letters and shyt, but reading as in being able to comprehend, paraphrase, and respond critically.

that's a long way of saying "he is stupid" :ooh:
 

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I got like a thousand on it the first time and i honestly didn't study or was even planning on going to college. I just took it cuz my boys was.
 

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:whoa: His score was 220 or at least 620 out of 1600?. Umass doesn't have lax academic requirements. Not even for athletes

Well the NCAA clearinghouse is on a sliding scale.... So the higher your GPA, the lower your SAT score can be... If the team wants him and he passes the NCAA clearinghouse then he's on the team. I'd assume that dude had a high GPA in high school or something (Probably just faked his way through school with an easy ride because he was an athlete)
 

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The fact that he mastered Kevin Gilbride's offense in a short amount of time, plus the amount of time he's put into his craft to create the chemistry he has with his QB shows how bright he really is.
 

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im sure if i took the test i would bomb it.

i just graduated from nursing and that shyt was hard as fukk.

point is if you do bad on the sats dont mean you cant learn something and excel at it
 
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