So THIS is the trailer trolling muslims that got the American killed

[Berniewood Hogan]

Muhammad conquered territories

Military career of Muhammad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Broke Wave]

HISTORIANS TEND TO AGREE THAT THE CAPTURE OF WESTERN EUROPEAN TERRITORY BY THE ALLIES WAS MORE ABOUT POWER AND INFLUENCE THAN FREEING GERMANS FROM FASCISM, BROTHER! NATION STATES ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO MAKE A LANDGRAB!

I beg to differ. The allies relinquished all of the territory they captured and gave complete autonomy, outside of The Soviet Union. It would not have been possible to decisively defeat Germany without crossing the Rhine and ending the Third Reich, just like how Khalid Bin Waled decided it would be impossible to gain peace from the Sassanids, who had been attacking them with their clients, so their fate was sealed.


Edit : Isn't this a much better discussion than "My religion is better than yours?"

 

[wize fool]

Then why today are Christians persecuted in Muslim majority countries all over the world? Where is the tolerance? From Africa, to the middle east, to Asia, Muslim majorities kill Christians.

There are Christian sects that abide by these principles friend. Those sects that truly broke from Roman traditions (some protestants) and influence follow the old testament as well as the new.

We really got off topic in this thread. Someone should create a Christian/Islam thread.

I've already showed you that Islam doesn't teach intolerance towards Christianity. If a Muslim chooses to go against those teachings and show intolerance, then that is on that individual and does not change the teachings.

The same as if a Christian worships Jesus as 1 of 3, even though he is going against the teachings of Christ, the teachings of Christ remain unchanged. God is one.

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

Then why today are Christians persecuted in Muslim majority countries all over the world? Where is the tolerance? From Africa, to the middle east, to Asia, Muslim majorities kill Christians.

There are Christian sects that abide by these principles friend. Those sects that truly broke from Roman traditions (some protestants) and influence follow the old testament as well as the new.

We really got off topic in this thread. Someone should create a Christian/Islam thread.

Ok, some so called muslims kill some christians. there are some so called christians that kill muslims. Both religions have groups that disobey their laws.

The difference between islam and christianity is small, yet large at the same time. One who greatly studies both religions will see that they are essentially the same religion.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I beg to differ. The allies relinquished all of the territory they captured and gave complete autonomy, outside of The Soviet Union. It would not have been possible to decisively defeat Germany without crossing the Rhine and ending the Third Reich, just like how Khalid Bin Waled decided it would be impossible to gain peace from the Sassanids, who had been attacking them with their clients, so their fate was sealed.

THERE ARE STILL US MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN GERMANY, BROTHER! THE US, ENGLAND, AND FRANCE ALL DESIRED INFLUENCE OVER THE FUTURE OF WEST GERMANY'S ECONOMY! BUT THIS COMPARISON TO THE MUSLIM CONQUESTS IS NOT APT, SINCE THE ALLIES DID NOT TAKE PATTON'S ADVICE AND TRY TO CONQUER FURTHER TERRITORIES, BROTHER!

IF THE ISLAMIC MILITARY WAS DEFENSIVE IN NATURE, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME A DEFENSE MOVED FORWARD AND EXPANDED, BROTHER! ISLAM ABSOLUTELY WAS SPREAD BY THE SWORD, IN ADDITION TO INTIMIDATION TACTICS! DENYING THIS IS FRUITLESS RELIGIOUS TRIBALISM!

 

[wize fool]

Military career of Muhammad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you even read that link? Here's some highlights for you:

After initially refusing to accede to requests by his followers to fight the Meccans for continued persecution and provocation, he eventually proclaimed the revelations of the Quran:
"Permission to fight is given to those who are fought against because they have been wronged -truly Allah has the power to come to their support- those who were expelled from their homes without any right, merely for saying, 'Our Lord is Allah'..." (Quran, 22:39-40)"

The Meccans, even those who had been notable for their opposition to Islam, were spared.

Muhammad's critics often hold that the Muslims engaged in wars of aggression. Conversely, other non-Muslim academics believe that Muhammad was a reluctant warrior, such that he disliked fighting except when he believed it to be absolutely necessary.

That last part was taken from the section titles "Non-Muslim views".

All you have proven is that you don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I see Mr. Allah's invisible cloud jack still thinks people take him seriously.

 

[Broke Wave]

THERE ARE STILL US MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN GERMANY, BROTHER! THE US, ENGLAND, AND FRANCE ALL DESIRED INFLUENCE OVER THE FUTURE OF WEST GERMANY'S ECONOMY! BUT THIS COMPARISON TO THE MUSLIM CONQUESTS IS NOT APT, SINCE THE ALLIES DID NOT TAKE PATTON'S ADVICE AND TRY TO CONQUER FURTHER TERRITORIES, BROTHER!

IF THE ISLAMIC MILITARY WAS DEFENSIVE IN NATURE, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME A DEFENSE MOVED FORWARD AND EXPANDED, BROTHER! ISLAM ABSOLUTELY WAS SPREAD BY THE SWORD, IN ADDITION TO INTIMIDATION TACTICS! DENYING THIS IS FRUITLESS RELIGIOUS TRIBALISM!

Yes but friend Islam being spread by the sword is a misnomer. The largest Muslim Population in the world is in South East Asia and there was no Muslim "sword" there. The people just genuinely wanted to become Muslims.

Spread of Islam in Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not absolving early Islamic History from aggressive violence. That would be totally fallacious, but it is also fallacious to say, that conclusively, Islam was spread through the sword.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Did you even read that link?

IN IT'S ENTIRETY, BROTHER!

The Caravan raids refer to a series of raids which Muhammad and his Companions participated in. The raids were generally offensive[10] and carried out to gather intelligence or seize the trade goods of Caravans financed by the Quraysh, (such retaliation was rationalized as being legitimate actions because many Muslims left their possessions and wealth behind when they migrated from Mecca).[11][12] The Muslims declared that the raids were justified and that God gave them permission to defend against the Meccans' persecution of Muslims.[13][14]

The sum total of all casualties on all sides in all the battles of Muhammad is more than 1,000

THIS IS NOT "SELF DEFENSE" BROTHER!

 

[theworldismine13]

lupe's on twitter supermaning for islam

 

[wize fool]

IN IT'S ENTIRETY, BROTHER!

THIS IS NOT "SELF DEFENSE" BROTHER!

Again, poor reading comprehension.

such retaliation was rationalized as being legitimate actions because many Muslims left their possessions and wealth behind when they migrated from Mecca

Yes they attacked, to get their stuff back. It's like someone burglarizing your house then you see them walking down the street wearing your coat with the same exact oil stain on the left arm.

This is why it is important to educate ourselves. Anyone who has studied the history of Islam would know this. You'd have me convinced if I was a clueless idiot. Unfortunately for you, I know better and also know how to read.

 

[wize fool]

I see Mr. Allah's invisible cloud jack still thinks people take him seriously.

The late Guru said "While other struggle to juggle tricky metaphors..." Here you can't grasp a very simple one. You continue to prove how obtuse your mind is. You are beneath me laughing while I tower above you laughing harder.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The late Guru said "While other struggle to juggle tricky metaphors..." Here you can't grasp a very simple one. You continue to prove how obtuse your mind is. You are beneath me laughing while I tower above you laughing harder.

HL is more civil and mature than KTL was. We all kinda agreed to make an effort on that. Kill all this chest-beating infantile bullshyt you've injected into the thread or bounce.

 

[Tom]

membership is open to everyone


http://www.the-coli.com/group.php?groupid=48

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

It's like someone burglarizing your house then you see them walking down the street wearing your coat with the same exact oil stain on the left arm.

AND THEN YOU GO STEAL THEIR HOUSE, AND THEIR NEIGHBOR'S, AND THEIR OTHER NEIGHBOR'S, AND SO ON UNTIL YOU OWN AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD LARGER THAN THE ROMAN EMPIRE, BROTHER!