So Sampling In Music Is All A Scam???

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Not a scam .

From a companies perspective they rather spend money on a sample that’ll not only make your song do what it has to but will inject some life into a
Older record in their catalog…instead of helping a rival out .

It hurts creativity and leads to robotic trash music but I wouldn’t call it a scam
 
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define a scam first since people on here don't seem to know what the word means.

Lupe fiasco's biggest song samples a relatively unknown song unless you are from the philippines that was his producers call not the label. Labels have songs they suggest artists get on and writers that's how you got the modest mouse sample. it fit a hit song formula.

the reasoning behind this thread is just stupid and oversimplified. some of y'all write with such narrow perspective because you would rather slant a narrative and the overall discussion to get the most engagement. shyt retarded fam. the discussion was more about industry politics and monopoly not sampling but how they control the revenue stream. you even posted the thread in the wrong forum
 

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define a scam first since people on here don't seem to know what the word means.

Lupe fiasco's biggest song samples a relatively unknown song unless you are from the philippines that was his producers call not the label. Labels have songs they suggest artists get on and writers that's how you got the modest mouse sample. it fit a hit song formula.

the reasoning behind this thread is just stupid and oversimplified. some of y'all write with such narrow perspective because you would rather slant a narrative and the overall discussion to get the most engagement. shyt retarded fam. the discussion was more about industry politics and monopoly not sampling but how they control the revenue stream. you even posted the thread in the wrong forum



Why should labels even have the power to "suggest" (more like demand) artists sample something if that's not what they're trying to produce? Come on, man.
 

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Why should labels even have the power to "suggest" (more like demand) artists sample something if that's not what they're trying to produce? Come on, man.
the conversation is about labels and how they make money and control revenue such as publishing. it's really not about sampling it's not common for a label to even suggest samples. this was a weird take away from an otherwise informative conversation.

In this particular instance Lupe was signed to a production company and not a label. Atlantic was his distributor. they wanted a piece of the pie so they wanted to get them sampling form Atlantic back catalogue to get publishing off his songs because of the type of deal he had they didn't have leverage to eat much off the songs he brought to them but could eat off the songs he made with them. How you go from this unique situation to concluding that sampling is a scam is retarded. i hate click bait media type posts.
 

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Another reason why Visual Art > Music Art is the Goat ART form
:duck:

Music is a language of the soul it transcends all other artforms. it has spiritual power. when people feel music they don't need to be told how to perceive it the value of music is not assessed by experts but the individual listener. sorry brother not even close. Nobody ever said "this painting got me through a lot".

:camby:
 

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Makes sense to me.

The influx of sampling and purchasing the catalogues of these artist just proves it’ll likely continue in the same direction. People are sampling songs that came out less than 10 years ago… and I bet in most cases, the sample is from an artist whose music is owned by that same label.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they had producers in a basement somewhere forced to create as many tracks as possible sampling songs they own just to force feed their artists. That’s the business though, I guess
 

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Music is a language of the soul it transcends all other artforms. it has spiritual power. when people feel music they don't need to be told how to perceive it the value of music is not assessed by experts but the individual listener. sorry brother not even close. Nobody ever said "this painting got me through a lot".

:camby:
Children make art before music....fukk music.

:unimpressed:

And yes they definitely say this painting got me through a lot. I literally seen women bow and praise and worship my art and even cry tears of joy at how beautiful it is. The piece in the NOMA specifically.

Visual Art is just as strong at emoting all types of feelings.

Y'all just need to see art that you connect to...same as with any art form...but Visual Art is the best
 

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Children make art before music....fukk music.

:unimpressed:

And yes they definitely say this painting got me through a lot. I literally seen women bow and praise and worship my art and even cry tears of joy at how beautiful it is. The piece in the NOMA specifically.

Visual Art is just as strong at emoting all types of feelings.

Y'all just need to see art that you connect to...same as with any art form...but Visual Art is the best
You tried brother but it's not even a discussion:laff:
 

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This has little to nothing to do with sampling. It’s about these corporations trying to make as much as possible and give the artist as little as possible. A lot of people criticize and laugh at Dame, but he was right about these labels.
 
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