so kobe has 12 games in offs where he scored over 40..and bron got eleven 40pt games

[FTBS]

fukk outta here. He needs more hardware.

Wade has a ring and a Finals MVP too, and he's in no ones top 5 all time

It's amazing how nikkas use Wade when it's convenient for them. Before MIA Bron was no lower than number 2 on anyone's list. Suddenly he goes to MIA and it's "Wade's team" and Bron's not the best player on the team. Bron plays better all the up until the Finals with Wade really struggling in ECF and I hear nothing. Bron returns the favor in Finals and he gets killed (rightfully so) however no one has ever said Wade had Bron and Bosh and didn't win have they? No it's always Bron has Wade and Bosh and cant' get it done. Point is Wade hasn't faced anywhere near the pressure Bron his throughout is career both on the court and off and has never been held to the same standard or subject to the same level of scrutiny so why would he suddenly get the same props? Bron has proven himself to be an all-time great and the only thing keeping the simple-minded among us from fully acknowledging that is a ring. The slobbing is gonna be ridiculous once he does.

 

[YBE]

Gets see here...where should I start.

Lebron is on pace to surpass Kobe in all these categories:

Points
Rebounds
Assists
Fg%
Steals
Blocks

...he's already got more mvp's
Lebron vs. Kobe team matches...lebron has more wins.
Lebron has done more with less...that's fact.

Lebron makes his teammates better Way more than Kobe...lebron had jj hickson looking like somebody u don't trade for amare....looking back...you'd trade jj hickson for Ronny turiaf.

Made boobie Gibson look like one of the best role players...now he's a nobody.

I could go on and on...the only thing he is missing is the ring...but let's not forget ...rings are a TEAM ACCOLADE. Yes it adds to the legacy but people have to stop using it as a 100% individual measuring stick accolade.


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Hows that working out for LeBron?

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Gets see here...where should I start.

Lebron is on pace to surpass Kobe in all these categories:

Points
Rebounds
Assists
Fg%
Steals
Blocks

...he's already got more mvp's
Lebron vs. Kobe team matches...lebron has more wins.
Lebron has done more with less...that's fact.

Lebron makes his teammates better Way more than Kobe...lebron had jj hickson looking like somebody u don't trade for amare....looking back...you'd trade jj hickson for Ronny turiaf.

Made boobie Gibson look like one of the best role players...now he's a nobody.

I could go on and on...the only thing he is missing is the ring...but let's not forget ...rings are a TEAM ACCOLADE. Yes it adds to the legacy but people have to stop using it as a 100% individual measuring stick accolade.


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co sign

shyt aint even close..bron will get 20k by the begining of the 2013 season
if he stays healthy i can see him get more 28k with ease

only thing bron needs is a ring and final mvp
then hes a easy top 5 candidate

 

[YBE]

Lebron = Peyton Manning
Kobe = Tom Brady
Durant = Rodgers

And hopefully
Melo = Eli

I always said the same....


Jordan = Joe Montana....the nikka who could do no wrong
Kobe = Tom Brady....the superstar that nobody likes eventhough he's closest to Montana they feel his team/coach carried him (sound familiar?)
LeBron = Peyton Manning....the worldclass superstar that everyone wanted to crown who fails to live up to expectations

 

[FTBS]

Who has Lebron made better tho? Wade...? Bosh? Na

I thought All those guys on the Cavs are scrubs right? Now there good?

Pau Gasol is a perfect example of Kobe making someone better. He's a HOF now, and before Kobe was a fringe All star. Think about that

Shaq had the best years of his career(and playoffs)with Kobe

Not just Pau,

Lamar odom
Trevor ariza
Bynum

Etc

Seriously man? Pau is a HOFer because of the rings that he won on the Lakers not because Kobe somehow made him a better player. He along with all those other guys, except Bynum, did the same thing he did before just on a larger stage with better teammates in LA. at Kobe making Bynum better by wanting him gone and not passing the ball to him.

I wouldnt' say the Cavs were all scrubs. I'd say they were all average to good players. There was no Pau or even Fisher to step up in a big moments. When shyt got hot it was Bron or bust.As great as Kobe is you can't say the same about him outside of 04-06 when of course nikkas were trashing Odom and Bynum. Most of the big shots during Kobe's title runs were hit by guys not named Kobe.

Not shytting on Kobe or slobbing Bron just stating fact. Nothing is more annoying that revisionist history.

 

[ItzDaKiing]

lebron must be 80 years old


releax mj was 28 when he first got one bron bron is 27 chill.

Jordan was also 21 when he got into the league

Bron came in at 18....

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Seriously man? Pau is a HOFer because of the rings that he won on the Lakers not because Kobe somehow made him a better player. He along with all those other guys, except Bynum, did the same thing he did before just on a larger stage with better teammates in LA. at Kobe making Bynum better by wanting him gone and not passing the ball to him.

I wouldnt' say the Cavs were all scrubs. I'd say they were all average to good players. There was no Pau or even Fisher to step up in a big moments. When shyt got hot it was Bron or bust.As great as Kobe is you can't say the same about him outside of 04-06 when of course nikkas were trashing Odom and Bynum. Most of the big shots during Kobe's title runs were hit by guys not named Kobe.

Not shytting on Kobe or slobbing Bron just stating fact. Nothing is more annoying that revisionist history.

bynum
gasol
odom
artest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the whole cavs roster other than bron

 

[teacher]

Bron's performance last year was comparable to Kobe's first Finals performance. No Bron didnt' have the great overtime period like Kobe did but that's pretty much all Kobe did during that series because he was hurt and even missed a game and yet his team still managed to win rather easily in 6. Bron's never been on a team that could win with him playing anything less than great and with the exception of last year even him playing great wasn't enough.

the sixers only won 1 game when AI dropped 50

 

[FTBS]

the sixers only won 1 game when AI dropped 50

You should do your research before you break the smiley's out Either that or work on your reading comprehension because I clearly said "Kobe's FIRST Finals performance"

 

[Street Knowledge]

Seriously man? Pau is a HOFer because of the rings that he won on the Lakers not because Kobe somehow made him a better player. He along with all those other guys, except Bynum, did the same thing he did before just on a larger stage with better teammates in LA. at Kobe making Bynum better by wanting him gone and not passing the ball to him.

I wouldnt' say the Cavs were all scrubs. I'd say they were all average to good players. There was no Pau or even Fisher to step up in a big moments. When shyt got hot it was Bron or bust.As great as Kobe is you can't say the same about him outside of 04-06 when of course nikkas were trashing Odom and Bynum. Most of the big shots during Kobe's title runs were hit by guys not named Kobe.

Not shytting on Kobe or slobbing Bron just stating fact. Nothing is more annoying that revisionist history.

He made Pau better, before Kobe Pau made one all star team and was considered soft and choker(he still is soft, but Kobe doesn't have magical powers) with Kobe hes made more all star teams finally made all nba teams and won 2 titles(when he didn't even win a playoff game before)

Trevor ariza was arguably the 3rd best player in the playoffs on the 09' lakers(tossup between him and odom). Mostly based off all the defensive attention Bryant got so Trevor got a lot of wide open 3's. He used that run to get him a good contract and has been mediocre ever since without Bryant.

As for odom I wont even have to explain that one. Goes from 6th man of the year to Flabby and sick Without Kobe

Also what "big shots" where hit by guys not named Kobe? Of Course teammates helped, but That's like blaming mike for Paxton hitting wide open shots because of all the defensive attention he got. Same with Bryant.

 

[Street Knowledge]

It's amazing how nikkas use Wade when it's convenient for them. Before MIA Bron was no lower than number 2 on anyone's list. Suddenly he goes to MIA and it's "Wade's team" and Bron's not the best player on the team. Bron plays better all the up until the Finals with Wade really struggling in ECF and I hear nothing. Bron returns the favor in Finals and he gets killed (rightfully so) however no one has ever said Wade had Bron and Bosh and didn't win have they? No it's always Bron has Wade and Bosh and cant' get it done. Point is Wade hasn't faced anywhere near the pressure Bron his throughout is career both on the court and off and has never been held to the same standard or subject to the same level of scrutiny so why would he suddenly get the same props? Bron has proven himself to be an all-time great and the only thing keeping the simple-minded among us from fully acknowledging that is a ring. The slobbing is gonna be ridiculous once he does.

I give Bron props for toasting the bulls. That was the best defensive team they faced all playoffs and he was the MVP not Wade. I'm just using the poit on how just having one ring doesn't put someone in a top 5 all time. Hakeem has 2 rings(back to back) with some of the most dominant playoff performances ever and a lot of nikkaz don't have him in their top 5.

If Lebron wins a ring this year, that's great, but whats his argument for his career over these guys

Mike
Magic
Bird
Kareem
Hakeem
Russell
Kobe
Duncan
Shaq
Wilt

Duncan for example lead his team to 4 titles, has one less MVP, 3 finals MVP's and has all( more actually) all nba and all defensive team call ups.
How's Bron competing with that?

 

[YBE]

You LeBron nikkas wanna know why nikkas constantly shyt on yall? You try too hard.


One, you disregard Kobe's 5 championships.......just assuming that LeBron going to be able to do the same. Two, you spent years ragging on Kobe for playing with Shaq........but have no words for Bron running away to Miami. Three, you compare Kobe's stats to LeBron's stats, fully understanding that LeBron's gonna win because Kobe didn't play for 2 years It's manipulative & disgusting. Take away those 2 wasted seasons & they stack up evenly.

Kobe Bryant & LeBron James - First 9 years starting

Kobe Bryant & LeBron James - best statistical seasons

LeBron at 22....went to the Finals.
Kobe at 22....went to the Finals.
Below are their playoff numbers from that year.

I'm taking it easy on yall because I could've compared LeBron's playoffs/finals from last year. Trust me. It's bad

 

[blackzeus]

I always said the same....


Jordan = Joe Montana....the nikka who could do no wrong
Kobe = Tom Brady....the superstar that nobody likes eventhough he's closest to Montana they feel his team/coach carried him (sound familiar?)
LeBron = Dan Marino....the worldclass superstar that everyone wanted to crown who fails to live up to expectations

Peyton already won a 'ship . But I think this year is Bron's year.

 

[Goatpoacher]

You LeBron nikkas wanna know why nikkas constantly shyt on yall? You try too hard.


One, you disregard Kobe's 5 championships.......just assuming that LeBron going to be able to do the same. Two, you spent years ragging on Kobe for playing with Shaq........but have no words for Bron running away to Miami. Three, you compare Kobe's stats to LeBron's stats, fully understanding that LeBron's gonna win because Kobe didn't play for 2 years It's manipulative & disgusting. Take away those 2 wasted seasons & they stack up evenly.

Are you trying to prove Lebron is better?

31, 7, 6 .... damn.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

It's stupid shyt being said on BOTH sides of this debate......

Some people are blindly hating on Kobe and others are blindly hating on Lebron.

Never mind that these are two vastly different players.

Kobe is just a pure scoring machine. Lebron will probably never have the scoring feats that Kobe has amassed, dude just doesn't have that mentality.

Lebron is an all purpose player. Almost anything you need done he can do at a high level. His size and athleticism is crazy and his court vision is unreal. He's not as skilled as Kobe but his raw talent more than makes up for it.

Both are going down as all time great players. The hate both of them receive has a lot to do with their fan bases though. Some Kobe fans go WAY overboard defending him and Lebron fans set his bar WAY too high and are paying for it now.