So I started Brasilian Jiu Jitsu :blessed:

[TheDarceKnight]

It can be exciting to finally lock something up but give it up if you feel like youre about to get swept or end up in a bad spot.

shyt. One other thing, sorry. That's fine and it's the safe choice. But later on play with not letting it go. A lot of submissions get stronger going from top to bottom. So if you lock something up on top, it can actually be just as tight or even make what you've got even tighter to go to the bottom or let yourself get swept over. It's an advanced idea because you've got to know where to land yourself so that you don't lose what you had, because then you feel stupid and you'll wish you were back on top. So it's a risky concept, but IMO it's a very important one once people get to advanced blue or early purple---to find at least one submission that you can perform while going from top to bottom and going from bottom to top.

For example, Devhonte Johnson had Gordon Ryan in a super tight choke here from 2:05-3:10 and tries multiple angles to finish, but most are on top. Granted, his arms are probably toast by then, but when he rolls/gets rolled, if you pause it at 3:14, that's arguably the best spot to finish the choke, and he immediately lets go. I don't want to armchair QB too much. Devhonte is a beast and trains with people at Unity in NYC much better than me, and maybe if his arms weren't blown out he would've held on, but a lot of good chokers will actually try to force their way to the position he got to right as he let go. You can see the whole sequence here.


Here are some examples of going from top to bottom with a sub. This is probably most common with triangles, armbars, guillotines, darces, and kimuras (gi or nogi) and cross collar chokes, clock chokes, or loop chokes (gi specific).

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

i'm signing up for classes soon. i'm ready to be humbled.

how much do you pay a month?

150/month..but the dues with initiation and the cost of the GI is one time 250.

But with the schedule one could get in like 5 classes a week if their work schedule permits.mand you can train at any Gracie Barra in the country.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Have men in your guard breh.

 

[Mowgli]

Have men in your guard breh.

We here

 

[ChatGPT-5]

We here

Roll on the dirt with men in hot Nigeria breh.

 

[Mowgli]

Roll on the dirt with men in hot Nigeria breh.

Sounds fun

 

[beanz]

I miss it so much I dream about it at least once a week. I haven't trained since I found out my wife was pregnant more than 2.5 years ago. I was paying 150 a month in the bronx but that was an introductory 6 month contract and they wanted to up it to 225 just as I found out we were having a baby. Had to make a tough choice there.

I trained off and on from 2010 to 2015. Back surgery among other injuries and marriage all would stop me for a few months at a time so I never got past white belt due to my inconsistency and switching schools, but man the stuff I learned gave me so much confidence.

My back is still fukked up but I'm working my way up career wise and as soon as I move out to Jersey I'll be looking for a school out there. Can't wait to go back and put my daughter in it as well.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I miss it so much I dream about it at least once a week. I haven't trained since I found out my wife was pregnant more than 2.5 years ago. I was paying 150 a month in the bronx but that was an introductory 6 month contract and they wanted to up it to 225 just as I found out we were having a baby. Had to make a tough choice there.

I trained off and on from 2010 to 2015. Back surgery among other injuries and marriage all would stop me for a few months at a time so I never got past white belt due to my inconsistency and switching schools, but man the stuff I learned gave me so much confidence.

My back is still fukked up but I'm working my way up career wise and as soon as I move out to Jersey I'll be looking for a school out there. Can't wait to go back and put my daughter in it as well.

That's awesome that you got a lot out of it. Once of my good friends is a brown belt and can't ever roll again because of a non-related back injury, and he's only 39-40. That shyt scares me so bad. I can't imagine never being able to roll again.

I'm glad it sounds like you'll be able to train again!

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Let me ask my jiu jitsu guys this-

Have you taken any striking based arts? I'm testing for my red belt in TSD at the end of summer and my first don hopefully in another 1-1.5 years. I got up to brown in TKD back about 12 years ago. Thought about doing jiu jitsu maybe in a few years

Have you ever tried Hapkido? That looks like a good mixture of both. Never did myself not many schools in my area.

 

[beanz]

That's awesome that you got a lot out of it. Once of my good friends is a brown belt and can't ever roll again because of a non-related back injury, and he's only 39-40. That shyt scares me so bad. I can't imagine never being able to roll again.

I'm glad it sounds like you'll be able to train again!

My back just needs some strengthening at this point which I'm working on. I'll be back on those mats tho. Even if I gotta be one of those old dudes training in their 50s and 60s, I will.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Let me ask my jiu jitsu guys this-

Have you taken any striking based arts? I'm testing for my red belt in TSD at the end of summer and my first don hopefully in another 1-1.5 years. I got up to brown in TKD back about 12 years ago. Thought about doing jiu jitsu maybe in a few years

Have you ever tried Hapkido? That looks like a good mixture of both. Never did myself not many schools in my area.

Yeah, I've done striking based arts. I started off doing TKD and then Karate, and then I went into a goofy art called Ninjutsu (basically diet Aikido) for a while, then finally got into grappling arts with Judo, and once falling got old after a few years, I got into BJJ and submission wrestling, and have stuck with that. I still like to do some Judo, but not a day in and day out grind.

I have a buddy that does Hapkido, and we grapple sometimes. I'm a veteran brown belt in jiu-jitsu and he just does Hapkido, so I tap him a lot, but I'm often really surprised at how good his instincts are from Hapkido.

So I'd say as far as a ground art, that Hapkido wouldn't make you competitive with someone that does jiu-jitsu, but if you enjoy Hapkido or want to do it, they do have a good blend of striking, throwing, ground work, etc.

I don't try to sell jiu-jitsu too hard in terms of framing it as being better than other things. For me, I like the tribal aspect of it, and I like the fact that it's problem solving under stress, and I like that we can go 100% without injuring each other. I think it's fun to make people say uncle and I think as human beings that touch is important play is important, and I think jiu-jitsu helps us get in touch with what we're mean to do as animals, which is wrestle, because basically all mammals do it.

But I'm an advocate of martial arts in general, so if Hapkido speaks to you, then you should try it out for sure. I would've tried it earlier had it been available to me. Now I'm ust so caught up in jiu-jitsu because I either teach or train 506 days a week and I'm 32 that there's just not really time for me to do another art. But if you do Hapkido I'd love to hear what you think about it.

That's cool you do TSD as well.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

My back just needs some strengthening at this point which I'm working on. I'll be back on those mats tho. Even if I gotta be one of those old dudes training in their 50s and 60s, I will.

Dude, one of my closest training partners is a 60 year old woman. She got her purple belt last year and she's the oldest woman to compete in the IBJJF. She usually has to compete against people 30 years younger than her at local/regional tournaments, but she trains like 6 days a week and she works so hard. She's really inspirational, and anytime someone tells me they feel too old to train, I always point her out. She's got a lot of physical problems, arthritis and what not, but she finds ways of working around it.

Have fun when you get back!

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Yeah, I've done striking based arts. I started off doing TKD and then Karate, and then I went into a goofy art called Ninjutsu (basically diet Aikido) for a while, then finally got into grappling arts with Judo, and once falling got old after a few years, I got into BJJ and submission wrestling, and have stuck with that. I still like to do some Judo, but not a day in and day out grind.

I have a buddy that does Hapkido, and we grapple sometimes. I'm a veteran brown belt in jiu-jitsu and he just does Hapkido, so I tap him a lot, but I'm often really surprised at how good his instincts are from Hapkido.

So I'd say as far as a ground art, that Hapkido wouldn't make you competitive with someone that does jiu-jitsu, but if you enjoy Hapkido or want to do it, they do have a good blend of striking, throwing, ground work, etc.

I don't try to sell jiu-jitsu too hard in terms of framing it as being better than other things. For me, I like the tribal aspect of it, and I like the fact that it's problem solving under stress, and I like that we can go 100% without injuring each other. I think it's fun to make people say uncle and I think as human beings that touch is important play is important, and I think jiu-jitsu helps us get in touch with what we're mean to do as animals, which is wrestle, because basically all mammals do it.

But I'm an advocate of martial arts in general, so if Hapkido speaks to you, then you should try it out for sure. I would've tried it earlier had it been available to me. Now I'm ust so caught up in jiu-jitsu because I either teach or train 506 days a week and I'm 32 that there's just not really time for me to do another art. But if you do Hapkido I'd love to hear what you think about it.

That's cool you do TSD as well.

It'll be awhile before I get into more than 1 art. Before marriage/kids I did boxing and Isshin Ryu at the same damn time and that was brutal. Hapkido has a school near metro Detroit but not super duper close so I'm likely gonna roll with TSD for a minute. It helped too it was basically in the same lane as TKD/Isshin Ryu so it was seamless. I really just wanted to focus on transition from striking to a throw or joint maneuver (we do quite a bit though in TSD). I did Judo my last semester of college and for a guy who only did striking that shyt was a wake-up call.

I think whatever ppl do is great (contrary to popular belief, anyone who knows what they're doing can kick someone's ass. No really "superior art". Although some are more effective).

I'm 34 so we're in the same boat.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

i need to rehabilitate from my injuries first

I know the place and the instructor who is legit and trains world class fighters

 

[JahFocus CS]