So I guess Westbrook wasn’t really that washed….

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Russ is the easy target and scapegoat

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Yall are such non hooping casuals :heh: Read these carefully.


The worst player profile is the aging former star who can’t be a role player and can’t shoot. AI, Francis, Marbury, we’ve seen this time and time again
Anybody who’s hooped knows, when you got aging old heads with young nggas it’s oil n water.
when you insert Russ and his bullheadedness it fukks everything up . Everyone mentions how well he played last year. That’s bc he could control the show. He’s great for himself if he can control the show. If he can’t, he is terrible for a team

All of those comments from 2 years ago. Yall just don’t get it
 

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Ask them. They traded him and his barely there salary for nothing. You dont get rid of quality, cheap role players.

2 months ago people were asking if him and Jokic were the best duo. But when you play him with the bench unit without Jokic on the floor he's forcing action. Was it Booth who said that Denver has like 7 possible starters (including Russ) and nothing after that? When you separate Russ and Jokic's minutes any advantage you get from him gets lost playing with the guys who the "nothing after that".

Clippers were rolling with Westbrook at point before they brought Harden in when they should have gotten something like Jerami Grant. Soon as honeybun show up, they try to get Harden to play off the ball and he refused, though he's clearly the best shooter so Russ ended up sitting in the corner.

There was also talk among fans and in the media about how underpaid Russ was and how eventually they would have to pay him more than the minimum and was outplaying his contract before his injury.

It's easy to make him the focus when the blame game starts. fukk the fact that they been wanting to fire Malone since before the chip, that Murray is overpaid and never available as one less floor spacer, that they made no moves at the deadline for MPJ. Even at it's best and most healthy version, this team had some glaring issues and they were never Russell Westbrook, til now. He killed the coach.

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Russ is gonna be on all the headlines but it seems it was just a symptom of Booth and Malone's beef. As far as Russ goes its somewhere in the middle, he played very well for a long stretch, and over time he had a few bad stretches, that's just Russ though. Malone should've prolly pulled him for miscues early but he leans on vets.
 

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So when Russ was helping the Nuggets win games while Murray was out what would you call that? Was he “fukking everything up” then?

Read that back to yourself. When Murray was out ….Just like on the Clippers people praised Russ…..when kawhi was out. He needs to be in a premier role, but no team is winning a chip with him in a premier role

Having an aging star is the absolute WORST player to have on a team. Bc his clout, pull, influence, cache, coachability, etc are all imbalanced with their CURRENT status as role player.

Did you see the clip of Kerr telling Buddy Hield to pass it up? You think any coach can tell that to Russ without it being a thing? :aicmon: I gave you past examples I can even give NFL examples. Cam newton could never *just* be a backup. Cowboys try to bring back Zeke Elliot but it ended in suspension and fukkery. Yall just as hard headed as Russ :snoop:
 

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Read that back to yourself. When Murray was out ….Just like on the Clippers people praised Russ…..when kawhi was out. He needs to be in a premier role, but no team is winning a chip with him in a premier role

Having an aging star is the absolute WORST player to have on a team. Bc his clout, pull, influence, cache, coachability, etc are all imbalanced with their CURRENT status as role player.

Did you see the clip of Kerr telling Buddy Hield to pass it up? You think any coach can tell that to Russ without it being a thing? :aicmon: I gave you past examples I can even give NFL examples. Cam newton could never *just* be a backup. Cowboys try to bring back Zeke Elliot but it ended in suspension and fukkery. Yall just as hard headed as Russ :snoop:
Where are you getting the idea that he can’t take a backseat? He moved to the bench when the Clippers traded for Harden, he deferred to Kawhi and PG and was more of a facilitator rather than scorer.
 

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Where are you getting the idea that he can’t take a backseat? He moved to the bench when the Clippers traded for Harden, he deferred to Kawhi and PG and was more of a facilitator rather than scorer.

Brother I cant have this conversation with you when there is a 1000 word article/tweet detailing the teams’ issues with him on the previous page :francis:

If you don’t understand how lockerroom dynamics work I can’t help you :francis:
 

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2 months ago people were asking if him and Jokic were the best duo. But when you play him with the bench unit without Jokic on the floor he's forcing action. Was it Booth who said that Denver has like 7 possible starters (including Russ) and nothing after that? When you separate Russ and Jokic's minutes any advantage you get from him gets lost playing with the guys who the "nothing after that".

Clippers were rolling with Westbrook at point before they brought Harden in when they should have gotten something like Jerami Grant. Soon as honeybun show up, they try to get Harden to play off the ball and he refused, though he's clearly the best shooter so Russ ended up sitting in the corner.

There was also talk among fans and in the media about how underpaid Russ was and how eventually they would have to pay him more than the minimum and was outplaying his contract before his injury.

It's easy to make him the focus when the blame game starts. fukk the fact that they been wanting to fire Malone since before the chip, that Murray is overpaid and never available as one less floor spacer, that they made no moves at the deadline for MPJ. Even at it's best and most healthy version, this team had some glaring issues and they were never Russell Westbrook, til now. He killed the coach.

:aicmon:
I am not saying its all on him or he hasnt done anything positive or nobody else has made errors. But when 2 teams decide to let you go and now things looking funny on a 3rd all within 3 years it cant all be "people just wanna be mean to Russ". If anybody is a scapegoat here its its the championship coach that just got fired.
 

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Real conversation here- fukk all the BS narratives.
KD, Russ are great players that for whatever reason they can't be the face, leaders, championship main drivers, etc that TheColi have made excuses for.
Seeing their careers and how it has played out.
Can TheColi tell us where they can go together (again it's never their fault, they are scapegoats, look at their numbers) and build a championship team? Because both will be on another team this summer.
 

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I am not saying its all on him or he hasnt done anything positive or nobody else has made errors. But when 2 teams decide to let you go and now things looking funny on a 3rd all within 3 years it cant all be "people just wanna be mean to Russ". If anybody is a scapegoat here its its the championship coach that just got fired.

The media narrative that started in LA makes it convenient when all of these teams, Lakers included again had glaring issues that had nothing to do with Russ.

Lakers: Neither Bron or AD could stay on the fukking court, they traded their depth for Russ seemingly as a stop gap to have someone out there when the other two were hurt, I forget the exact number of games they actually all shared a court but I'm pretty sure it was less than half his tenure there. And half the time they did the coaches had him spotting up.

Clippers: Health issues again, redundant trades that shored up no weaknesses and traded away defense and SHOOTING, everything they could have used to make a decent playoff run was given up for honeybun.

Nuggets:



Booth at the deadline, when Russ was actually having a decent stretch and being applauded as apart of one of the best tandems in the league between he and Jokic saying out his own mouth that the team outside of the "7 starters" is a problem.

I'd agree with your scapegoat take about Malone if they hadn't already been trying to fire him before Russ got there til he extended his grace with a chip, but people are literally saying is Russ the reason he got fired, that is the text book definition of being used as a scapegoat.
 
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