So china is making cars that are affordable and our government doesnt care?

[Scustin Bieburr]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/22/byd-seagull-ev-puts-global-auto-execs-politicians-on-edge.html

Allow a "communist" country to outplay you in capitalism crehs.

The China-built BYD
Seagull, a small all-electric hatchback, starts at just 69,800 yuan (or less than $10,000), and reportedly banks a profit for the increasingly influential Chinese automaker.

That latter point — EV profits where U.S. automakers have mostly failed to turn any — combined with the expansion of Chinese automakers into Europe, Latin America and elsewhere has automotive executives and politicians, from Detroit and Texas to Germany and Japan, on edge.

The Seagull could be a “clarion call for the rest of the auto industry,” said Terry Woychowski, a former General Motors
executive who now serves as president of automotive at engineering consulting firm Caresoft Global. “It’s a significant event.”

Though the Seagull isn’t yet sold on U.S. soil, BYD is expanding its vehicles globally, and some believe it’s only a matter of time before more China-made vehicles arrive in the U.S.
.....


For BYD to sell the Seagull in the U.S., it would have to meet U.S. federal vehicle requirements that would add additional costs to the car. But the EV could likely still arrive on U.S. shores for tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than the current average price of an EV in the U.S., which Cox Automotive reports is more than $52,000.

BYD last month announced it would begin selling the Seagull/Dolphin Mini EV in Mexico for 358,800 pesos (or about $20,990).

BYD has found success in its battery technology; internal sourcing, also known as vertical integration; and production of parts, according to Caresoft. Most notable is BYD’s development of lower-cost battery technologies that are far cheaper to manufacture than lithium-ion batteries commonly used in U.S. EVs.

BYD, which stands for Build Your Dreams, first pioneered its “Blade” battery technologies in smartphones and has since grown into one of China’s most well-known automakers.

Its focus on vehicle efficiencies is reminiscent of U.S. EV leader Tesla, which has likewise been able to drive down the cost of its vehicles over the years.



Tariffs won't make American cars affordable. This has to be one of the WORST crop of politicians we've had in a minute.

 

[ORDER_66]

China getting taxed out the ass the minute they set foot over here in the states... I guarantee it....

 

[Pure Water]

China makes cars using damn near slave labor and the government subsidizes their EVs. There is zero way for the US or Europe to compete with that. Tariffs in this market will unfortunately have to exist.

 

[Marc Spector]

those cars are made off legos and belly button lint. Govt subsidies protects those companies whereas here in the states, private stakeholders will off your children if you make a product exposing them to lawsuits.

 

[Fillerguy]

Tariffs won't make American cars affordable. This has to be one of the WORST crop of politicians we've had in a minute.

They're legislating the way their biggest donators want. And that not you and me

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Champion for China man products brehs

 

[Treblemaka]

The deep problem that isn't really being talked about is that China as a geopolitical power has never been seen before.

China is a socialistic protectionist economy domestically with a strong capitalistic sense internationally. They are large enough to be too big to fail and they treat other countries as customers and they are the Wal-Mart: Undercut the local competitors with pricing, spread and maintain as much as possible.

They preyed on Capitalism's desire to cut costs and increase margins as a way to worm into their economies. Then, as a socialistic country with a single leader without true elections, they have the capability to pivot in a way that democratic countries can't maintain because our leadership in America can switch every 4 years.

 

[Collateral]

those cars are made off legos and belly button lint. Govt subsidies protects those companies whereas here in the states, private stakeholders will off your children if you make a product exposing them to lawsuits.

Exactly. Put yourself and your family lives at risk in a land of Cybertrucks and Silverados just to be cheap brehs.

 

[FreedMind]

bytch ass american and european manufacturers shouldve been done this without the Chinese lighting a fire under their ass

Let the competitions begin. I drove a byd and was impressed, only left wondering if that battery would suddenly burst into flames like a factory reject iphone or sum shyt

 

[Geode]

Youll probably get 100% lead exposure riding around in those vehicles.

 

[Windows 91]

People talk like the US government doesn't subsidize their auto companies too. You think GM and Ford not getting subsidies?

 

[the cac mamba]

chinese affordability tends to come with some tradeoffs

 

[Arithmetic]

China getting taxed out the ass the minute they set foot over here in the states... I guarantee it....

And guess who that tax gets passed on to? Yes, brother @ORDER_66. It gets passed to you.

 

[ORDER_66]

And guess who that tax gets passed on to? Yes, brother @ORDER_66. It gets passed to you.

no you dont get it china getting taxed through tariffs that's what I mean... american taxpayer aint gonna be responsible for that shyt.. its literally a chinese made product...

 

[Pure Water]

And guess who that tax gets passed on to? Yes, brother @ORDER_66. It gets passed to you.

Well that's the point. The point of the tarrifs is to make the Chinese EVs on equal playing grounds cost wise or worse to promote domestic product. That's literally what tariffs are for.