So Birth of a Nation is sitting at $15 million after 4 weeks :ohlawd:

[ZEB WALTON]

idk why people thought this movie would make money in the first place

people goto the movies to enjoy themselves or see some great piece of film making

this is not one of those movies, the subject matter was bound to bring in weak sales

im suprised it made that much honestly

and i mean this with no ill will towards the movie, its meaning to history, the filmmaker or anyone,..

its just not the type of flick u wanna go on a date or spend a weekend of enjoyment with popcorn n soda to

 

[steadyrighteous]

idk why people thought this movie would make money in the first place

people goto the movies to enjoy themselves or see some great piece of film making

this is not one of those movies, the subject matter was bound to bring in weak sales

im suprised it made that much honestly

and i mean this with no ill will towards the movie, its meaning to history, the filmmaker or anyone,..

its just not the type of flick u wanna go on a date or spend a weekend of enjoyment with popcorn n soda to

None of this is true.

Precious is a movie about a girl systematically physically and sexually abused and made $63 million.

Room is a movie about a girl who is sexually abused and kept in a basement and has a kid down there and made $32 million.

People see challenging movies all of the time, so we can't give the lack of success of this movie a pass and say "the subject matter was too harsh".

People see harsh shyt all the time.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

None of this is true.

Precious is a movie about a girl systematically physically and sexually abused and made $63 million.

Room is a movie about a girl who is sexually abused and kept in a basement and has a kid down there and made $32 million.

People see challenging movies all of the time, so we can't give the lack of success of this movie a pass and say "the subject matter was too harsh".

People see harsh shyt all the time.

bro you can fight it if you want

those movies are not the norm, and so far out what normally draws money at the movies.

63 million. 30 million. your using movies that arent even doing that well in first place as your guage? dude above said they spent 21 mil on this movie? you thought this movie was gon do 65 mill really?

you thought a movie about white people savaging a ethnicity and thus starting a revolt where people were murdered was gon sell tickets bro?

was nat turner revolt an action movie to you?

cause i dont know one white person who gonna die to see that flick so they can feel bad yet feel strange

madea made mroe money than this right? why? cause people dont wan be depressed at the movies bro.

i wouldnt call either movie you listed hits. they did well considering. thats not the rule,

 

[steadyrighteous]

bro you can fight it if you want

those movies are not the norm, and so far out what normally draws money at the movies.

63 million. 30 million. your using movies that arent even doing that well in first place as your guage? dude above said they spent 21 mil on this movie? you thought this movie was gon do 65 mill really?

you thought a movie about white people savaging a ethnicity and thus starting a revolt where people were murdered was gon sell tickets bro?

was nat turner revolt an action movie to you?

cause i dont know one white person who gonna die to see that flick so they can feel bad yet feel strange

madea made mroe money than this right? why? cause people dont wan be depressed at the movies bro.

i wouldnt call either movie you listed hits. they did well considering. thats not the rule,

I haven't been arguing that his movie should have made more money. I've been arguing that it could have, and that the money it has made is not good enough.

Some people are using the 17.5 from Fox against the 7 mill budget as a reason to say it was a success, and I'm saying that none of that is true.

And the point I was making in response to you was, movies with troubling subject matter can still work, so we can't give it that excuse as if that's the reason it didn't do well, because if it did do well, people would be saying "the world needed to see this" etc.

 

[Roman Brady]

bro you can fight it if you want

those movies are not the norm, and so far out what normally draws money at the movies.

63 million. 30 million. your using movies that arent even doing that well in first place as your guage? dude above said they spent 21 mil on this movie? you thought this movie was gon do 65 mill really?

you thought a movie about white people savaging a ethnicity and thus starting a revolt where people were murdered was gon sell tickets bro?

was nat turner revolt an action movie to you?

cause i dont know one white person who gonna die to see that flick so they can feel bad yet feel strange

madea made mroe money than this right? why? cause people dont wan be depressed at the movies bro.

huh? Didn't 12 years do 187 mill with 20 mill budget? was that movie joyful? I get why whites made a point to not see this movie but the reason blax didn't see it will remain a mystery

 

[satam55]

None of this is true.

Precious is a movie about a girl systematically physically and sexually abused and made $63 million.

Room is a movie about a girl who is sexually abused and kept in a basement and has a kid down there and made $32 million.

People see challenging movies all of the time, so we can't give the lack of success of this movie a pass and say "the subject matter was too harsh".

People see harsh shyt all the time.

None of those movies are a threat to White Supremacy like "Birth of a Nation" was.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

None of those movies are a threat to White Supremacy like "Birth of a Nation" was.

So much of a threat FOX decided to pony up the money and purchase it for $15 million.

 

[666 ReVeNGe 666]

Yeah I don't think you understand.


It's a flop.


Fox bought it for what 16 million? now let's say they only spent 5 million on marketing.


Around 21 million in costs.

Movie theatres take half the gross.

So it making 18 million = about 9 million going to the studio.


The film has lost money at this point.

They are planning to release it overseas and they are going to have home sales so what do you mean it can't be a flop yet until we see those worldwide numbers and they even said 12 Years a Slave did better overseas than a domestically

 

[THEREALBRAND]

I guess, but I think the overall point I'm trying to make is doubling your budget isn't the success that most people would think.

Like I said, it probably cost them $5 mill + for advertising alone, so add that to the original $7 mill, means the $15 million it's grossed so far is only a $3 million dollar profit. And that's being safe. Just to give you an example, that movie Get Hard with Kevin Hart spent $44.5 million on TV advertising alone. Clearly Birth of a Nation didn't have that budget for advertising, but it's just to give you an example of what it really costs to make a movie, besides the production budget that we see on Wikipedia.

$3 mill is a lot of money for regular people, but in the movie making business some studios would pay a director $3 mill to leave half way through a production for fukking up.

It needed to make closer to $40 for people to sit up an pay attention.

Flop is a strong word, and probably inaccurate, but I'm sure besides being happy that the movie is out, Nate Parker isn't super happy with the numbers at all.

Yeah, $15 mil on a $9 million budget isn't anything to get excited about. I wouldn't call it a failure given how little money the studio invested by Hollywood standards, but it's much closer to being that than a success. When you factor in marketing, the theater's cut, and all of the other expenses that go with getting a film in theaters this movie will be lucky to make a slight profit.

To be fair though the studio was probably expecting numbers similar to this, but was hoping it would be a "prestige picture" that would have a lot of buzz going into award season. I think from the studio's standpoint the real failure for this movie is that the chances this film even gets nominated for a significant award are slim to none.

 

[Sampson]

 

[teacher]

just saw this on Sunday thank god it was matinee I felt it was a bait and switch. It was a slave movie with 10 minutes of CaC Killing. The overall message I got from the movie was you are better off not fighting oppression then fighting

the only slave revolt movie worth making is the Haitian revolution. Y'all ain't gonna get me again