Should The Government Subsidize The Incoming Gas increase?

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Gas prices are about to go up because of the support the United States is giving Ukraine but some of these costs are hitting close to home. Should this administration be responsible for paying off the energy companies in order to keep our prices at the pump stable?

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Gas prices are about to go up because of the support the United States is giving Ukraine but some of these costs are hitting close to home. Should this administration be responsible for paying off the energy companies in order to keep our prices at the pump stable?

This 7 dollar shyt is not the move for commuters.



Why should my hard earned tax dollars go to pay for your gas? Get some bootstraps

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I'm not 100% sure as you'd need to look at the government finances to really say either way.

I'd be more in favour of the US scaling up its domestic production than for gov't subsidies to gas. That, in conjunction with scaling up high speed, reliable, and frequently run public transport. The only reason I say this is because Nigeria has a similar fuel subsidy program that keeps the price of fuel artificially low for the citizens, but the cost to the government is getting astronomical and it has less money to invest in other critical infrastructure.

Obviously the US isn't Nigeria, but finances are finances. A fuel subsidy means less money for other critical investments in the US (roads, EV stuff, wide-scale public transport) and it would likely be funded with more government borrowing. With interest rate hikes expected this year, that becomes expensive debt for the government to take on.

On the other hand, gas prices are getting to some crazy levels and it's pinching consumers' pockets. I see $5+/gallon regularly in the Bay. The DMV has been steady at $3.80+/ gallon. This time last year most spots were under $2.80. That pipeline hack happened in summer and things went over $3.50. They haven't come down since.

But the truth of the matter is this, gas is a by-product of oil and oil is a proxy for energy (since its by-products are used to generate energy). Energy is needed to move products and people across the world so even if the government subsidies gas, there's still the issue of increased energy costs trickling into other sectors of the economy (food, consumer packaged goods, etc).

The government should really use this as the battery pack to look into viable EVs and wide-scale public transport. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me that there isn't a high-speed Maglev type train along the US' most traveled routes / densest areas e.g. NE Corridor, SF-LA, Texas Triangle etc when the tech is there in China and Japan.

EDIT: High speed rail in Europe can get about 200/mph.

So for DTX-HTX you got a 72min trip compared to the 3.5 hrs by car.

NYC to DC just over an hour compared to just under 4hrs by car.

SF-LA in about 2hrs instead of 6hrs by car.

Bullet trains can go even faster, like 350 mph+
 
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Americans buy stupid impractical cars on credit and then complain about gas prices

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Usually we get conditioned to eat rising gas costs over the years. In this case the hike is more immediate, glaring and we see the cause is because of the governments foreign policy. Policy many would say isnt necessary. Do we need to eat this after getting ravaged during the pandemic?

Is there a strong used market for electric cars? Being forced to buy a Chevy Volt wasn't in the average person's 2022 budget
 
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I guess economic hardships from foreign policy decisions will help Democrats push to move Americans to green energy by 2035
 
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