Shannon Sharpe says Michael Jordan has had more help than Lebron James

[chowism]

Jordan's team won 55 games when he went to place baseball so case closed. No LeBron team has even made the playoffs without him. Plus Jordan had a Hall of Fame coach the majority of his career.

 

[Noah]

Preface by saying the level of talent in the league is higher on average than it was 20-30 years ago and the style of play was different. Comparing LeBron’s competition to Jordan’s, I give LeBron’s competition the edge. Not that this is what it’s about, but it’s worth noting.

Shannon has a point in saying LeBron has never had a constant like Jordan did with Pippen. In essence he did, by going immediately from Wade (but let’s be honest he wasn’t exactly prime Wade by 2014) to Kyrie, but the year-to-year stability hasn’t really been there like it was with Jordan’s teams. During Jordan’s title winning and contending years, his best guys were Pippen, Grant, Rodman, and Kukoc (played a bigger role than I realized in ‘98 playoffs). LeBron’s have been Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, and Mo Williams (if we’re counting the end of his first Cleveland run as contending years just as we did with Jordan’s late 1980s years). While more =/= better, as LeBron has changed teams and therefore played with more high-level talent, I like Wade/Bosh just slightly over Jordan’s #2 and #3 guys. I’m hesitant to put Kyrie/Love over Pippen/Rodman or Pippen/Grant, since Love and Kyrie had numerous injury problems that affected Cleveland’s playoff success and Love hasn’t really been the most reliable player in the playoffs and Finals.

In the form of role players/starter level players? Debatable. However you think of Oakley, Armstrong, Paxson, Grant, Ron Harper, Kukoc, Kerr, Cartwright, Longley, and various bit players, I don’t think they’re that much better or worse than Chalmers, Battier, (older) Ray Allen, Haslem, JR Smith, Tristan Thompson, Kyle Korver, and some of those mid/late-2000s Cavs role players. Not such a disparity that gives Bron or Jordan the edge one way or the other.

PJax is obviously better and more successful than any coach LeBron has had but coaching impact can be hard to quantify. PJax gets the edge here but I’m not about to emphasize it as much.

 

[West Coast Avenger]

Shannon Sharpe says a lot of hilarious shyt....but this takes the cake.........

 

[Osmosis]

Jordan:
Pippen
Rodman
Kukoc
Steve Kerr
Phil Jackson
Christian Laettner
Rip Hamilton

All HOF

 

[Gyasi85]

The help Bron had is relative to the competition he faced. He had Kyrie and Wade for 6 year total...and out of them six he dealing with a 73 win, a 73 win team + an MVP, Manu, Parker and Duncan, Kawhi....Kyrie and Love gone in the finals so he by himself that year too.....while Jordan out here missing a year and half and Pippen still winning 50 games.. cuz the competition was weak as shyt .U getting negged on site if u trying to compare any of them 90's teams to Spurs and Golden State....Jordan ate when them Isiah Magic and Bird left...meanwhile the league reloaded 3 times after Bron got his Miami and Kyrie on......and now he by himself again ...The nikka need more help now than he ever did before to avoid a 6th L..

 

[KamikazePilot]

Jordan played in a trash ass expansion era

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Lebron beat better finals teams than Jordan.

96 Sonics>>12 Thunder

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Wade averaged 26.5 PPG in the 2011 Finals and then 23 the next year. How wasn't he in his prime?

And Bosh is a top 10-15 PF of all time. He's definitely a HOF.

Wade outplayed Lebron in the same Finals where they lost to a HOF and castaways

 

[Sunalmighty]

Jordan:
Pippen
Rodman
Kukoc
Steve Kerr
Phil Jackson
Christian Laettner
Rip Hamilton

All HOF

r u saying that list is HOF

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

Jordan's competition was trash but bron has been sleepwalking to the finals for 8 straight years .....stampeding through trash and it's "Lebronto", "King of the North" pre-finals..... post-finals

See the difference between the two is:

Bron runs the east and that's where it stops.

Jordan ran the league

 

[Champ_KW]

Lebron beat better finals teams than Jordan.

And lost to worst ones

 

[Osmosis]

r u saying that list is HOF

nikkas mentioning Shaq, Allen, and Illgauskas in their LeBron lists

 

[Optimus Prime]

Does Lebron have a signature Finals shot?

you mean like the one in Game 7 against the Spurs that won the championship

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

The help Bron had is relative to the competition he faced. He had Kyrie and Wade for 6 year total...and out of them six he dealing with a 73 win, a 73 win team + an MVP, Manu, Parker and Duncan, Kawhi....Kyrie and Love gone in the finals so he by himself that year too.....while Jordan out here missing a year and half and Pippen still winning 50 games.. cuz the competition was weak as shyt .U getting negged on site if u trying to compare any of them 90's teams to Spurs and Golden State....Jordan ate when them Isiah Magic and Bird left...meanwhile the league reloaded 3 times after Bron got his Miami and Kyrie on......and now he by himself again ...The nikka need more help now than he ever did before to avoid a 6th L..

Jordan beat isaiah and magic for his 1st ring in 91 (isaiah 30, magic 31)
Bird retired in 92 after Jordan got his 2nd ring (bird 35)
Isaiah retired in 94 after Jordan had already 3 peated

He ate with them well, alive and still in the league.

Bron ate after forming a superteam to beat 35 year old pierce, 36 year old kg, and 37 year old ray Allen. All older than any version of magic, bird and isaiah Jordan played against (pierce in 2012 was same age as retiring bird).

I say that to say this - shut the fukk up.

 

[Sccit]

MAN, THIS SHANNON FAGOT IS THE MOST SHAMELESS LEBRON DICCSUCKER OF ALL TIME. EVEN WORSE THAN NICK WRIGHT. THIS IS HIS BED: