Shane McMahon: In Royal Rumble final four, now out of WWE

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Couple of questions:1. where has Hunter been/when was the last time he was on TV? 2. Could the McMahon's sell the WWE for enough money to buy the broncos? I know there are rumors he's wanted to own an NFL team. 3. What is the timeline for this supposed sale?

What are any of these people going to do post-sale? Do stephanie and Pritchard expect to keep their jobs? Shane going to go back to working for fake Chinese companies?
 

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No way to book a good rumble match this year. Roster was horrible . Music was hitting and I had no idea who the hell was coming out
There's always room for improvement. Vince refusing to book his guys like they are competitive opponents at championship has created a product where only Lesnar, Reigns and Lashley look credible.

The rumble match could have been way better. If you have a thin roster, you should have your best available talent doing couple nasty moves, building tension, having a duel there and there.

They did everything wrong here:

You do not make a guy like AJ Styles get eliminated by a fukking madcac moss. You do not eliminate Kevin Owens with Shane lol what is Kevin even doing in this company? Is he like a borderline jobber at this point?

Brock Lesnar throwing opponents away with no resistance killed off entire match completely. How do you have a St. Louis Orton eliminated in two minutes? That right there made the fans sad, rather than angry.
Barely a fight between Drew and Lesnar, wtf? You could easily book Lesnar as if he was tired from the match against Lashley and he actually had to put up a fight to eliminate competition. But once again entire roster looks like bunch of nobodies. Whoever Shane, Pritchard, Dunn or Vince that came up with the show needs a spit in the face from the fans that came to the arena.
 

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Would you all say that Shane had a good or bad run from 2016-2022? I'm kind of in the middle on this. I enjoyed some things (his initial return and GM spot, his feud with The Miz) and others not so much (winning the Crown Jewel.)
 

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Wade Keller posted an audio update on Shane McMahon on PWTorch.com. Keller noted that things got really bad between Shane and his father Vince McMahon at the Royal Rumble but there were issues before the pay-per-view.

“Things really unraveled with him and his dad on Saturday,” Keller said. “Things were not good, according to what I heard.”

Keller continued, “If you’ve been listening carefully to me in the last month or two, you would have gotten the impression there was little chance Shane would have been at the Royal Rumble this weekend, or in WWE’s plans. I was pretty surprised when he showed up and then there were reports that he was going to be in a storyline that would weave itself all the way to Wrestlemania because of what I’ve been hearing about Shane’s status in the company, and his relationship with his dad in particular.”

Keller said, “This was almost a last straw for a lot of people in WWE when it comes to Shane [and] his dad, of course, being the final decision maker on that front. So the story is for the third year in a row he was brought in to help produce the Royal Rumble. It’s sort of a dad doing a favor to his son…Shane’s creative ideas over the decades have been laughed at behind his back. I’ve reported that for decades. He was never seen as having a good creative wrestling mind. That has carried over even into his 50s when trying to help produce the Royal Rumble.”

“This was an … unexpected, sharp increase in disruptiveness in bad ideas on Saturday,” Keller said. “From what I’m told directly from people there, he was really self-centered. It was all about him [and] his ideas, and he didn’t get caught up on what the plans were for the match. He didn’t know was going on TV that was building to certain moments. And he just pulled the McMahon card with the match producers wanting things to be done his way because why else would Shane-O-Mac be brought in, if not to basically dictate something, a major chapter involving him in the match. And so he did. And it got to the point where there were heated arguments with people who felt that they could push back and a lot of stress and strife and distractions with everybody else because it was just chaos. There was a plan for the match. Shane was pushing back against producers who were simply trying to follow through on what Vince McMahon told them should be done in the match. And Shane just went way overboard. If you look at the people that Shane was fighting in the ring during the Rumble, that was his doing. That’s who he wanted to be in the ring with looking good against. I mean two of the legit kind of badass guys in WWE — Otis with his background and Riddle with his background, and Shane punched away at them. Then Kevin Owens super kicked him twice and tried to toss him out but Shane reversed him and tossed him out over the top row to eliminate him.”

Keller added, “While all this is going on, Shane is sweating, profusely [and] this has been a thing for him recently, more than recently where there’s a concerning level of perspiration. It’s almost like just droplets are shooting out of his head and face.”

Keller added that Shane was willing to put over Brock Lesnar but things between Shane and Vince got really bad backstage.

“So when it came time to put someone over, Shane was willing to put over Brock Lesnar,” Keller said. “But the issue with Shane really got to the next level with Vince when it came to what was planned for Raw and that Shane had real problems with how he was going to be framed as he was going to be in the Elimination Chamber. And so, Shane disagreed with what Vince wanted to do and how he wanted to do it. It was laid out to Shane what the plans were and he did like it, and he pushed back and that led to Vince just finally having enough and canceling all plans with Shane, everything that they have planned with him.”

At this point, it’s not clear if he was released from his talent contract or if he was simply sent home. Keller said, “I haven’t been able to confirm that it’s an actual firing because I’m not quite sure what Shane’s status is with the company in the sense that if there’s an employee or relationship that could be canceled in a traditional way firing happens. But the idea now is from what I’m hearing is he is not going to be part of WWE in any way on or off camera for the foreseeable future, which could span a long, long time. Like years. It’s father, son, it’s a family situation, who knows, right? But…because this has been festering for a while and it’s been an issue for a while, this isn’t something that just surprised everybody and it came out of nowhere on Saturday. The feeling is that this really could be the last straw. And there could be a level of professional estrangement between Vince and Shane…I haven’t found anybody who will defend Shane, in terms of how he acted on Saturday.”

Shane McMahon pushed back on Vince McMahon's WWE Raw/Elimination Chamber plans, backstage issues were a problem long before Royal Rumble

TLDR Version: Shane, for whatever reason, decided to go into business for himself because of a possible Mania storyline.
 

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Couple of questions:1. where has Hunter been/when was the last time he was on TV? 2. Could the McMahon's sell the WWE for enough money to buy the broncos? I know there are rumors he's wanted to own an NFL team. 3. What is the timeline for this supposed sale?

What are any of these people going to do post-sale? Do stephanie and Pritchard expect to keep their jobs? Shane going to go back to working for fake Chinese companies?

1) Triple H has been recovering from Heart Surgery and taking things easy. Last I remember him being on WWE programming was last year's Wrestlemania
2) They could, but he'd obviously have to get approval from the NFL
3) No idea but with the growing influence of Nick Khan, sooner rather than later

Post Sale: Shane doesn't have an official role with the company so he's free to do whatever. Stephanie probably stays on in some sort of corporate capacity and maybe as an occasional on-screen character to get a pop and keep the McMahon presence in the company. No idea about Bruce Prichard, but his podcast would get a lot more entertaining once he's done with the company.
 

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Things changing in the 11th hour like reported makes sense if Shane barged in and basically ripped the scripts up. But I'm curious in folks opinion now because I've read a lot of sympathetic think pieces by people that this was an incredible injustice. Shane was just in the final 4 in the rumble (he wasn't), KKKs thrown out etc. All types of wild, uninformed shyt.
 

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Post Sale: Shane doesn't have an official role with the company so he's free to do whatever. Stephanie probably stays on in some sort of corporate capacity and maybe as an occasional on-screen character to get a pop and keep the McMahon presence in the company. No idea about Bruce Prichard, but his podcast would get a lot more entertaining once he's done with the company
Totally get all that. I just question whether any of these people have any skills outside of carny-wrangling.
 
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