Shameless Season 6 Discussion Thread

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Frank can't die. Fiona gonna have to sack up and give Frank her liver. I know the show is about the Gallaghers kids who survive their terrible parents. But we still need Frank for all the fukkery,
 

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I been pretty quiet this season but here is what I see....

I said last season that Fiona is an extremely selfish person and has no real business being the guardian of those kids. She was arguably better off getting those kids in foster care (Debbie being the exception). Fiona is an extremely self destructive person. Much like her mother and father. If not for her good fortune, she would be in front of the alibi tricking for 40 bucks a turn. She has made a string of bad decisions and those are decisions she should not be making as a LEGAL GUARDIAN. She had a very good job and she was on track to move up in the company, she had a lame, but good hearted boyfriend who saw her self destructive tendencies and ignored them. Not only that but he put her out there doing pretty important company business and she threw it all away to get freaky with his burnout coked out drunkie brother. When he dropped off that cocaine she should have just flushed it instead she throws a party with children in the house to get turnt up. So her BABY BROTHER gets in the stash, and while she did feel guilty she is so obsessed with the idea of her being innocent at heart she is willing to take a nickel in prison (she would have been found guilty no questions asked) instead of doing a 30-90 day bid. She gets off super easy, with just 3 years of probation and she has the nerve to be sad about it, this was the best case scenario. Lip was right in beating her down, she needed some sense slapped into her. I understand the sacrifices she has made in the past but she could have easily killed Liam, and she may have stunted the kids development (not that he seemed too bright anyway).

Lip has grown the most this season. I understand he is an entitled genius. But he is learning that just being smart won't get you through college, that you have to work hard and show effort and initiative. The thing that also helps him is that he has some distance from his ex-girlfriends, even though Mandy was cool as hell and helped him get into college. He does need to watch himself, stealing from the cafeteria is gonna get hi in trouble. Also he needs to try and not fukk his roomates GF. Not cool especially when said roomate has been nothing but a gentleman and has helped Lip in multiple situations. I do think he should be the leader of the house while Fiona gets her shyt together.

Something bad happened to Ian in the military (raped?) I think that's why he has been acting so bizarrely.

Mickey has grown into one of the most likable characters in the show. Dude has a heart.

Debbie needs to slow down, she has to not be so obsessed with having sex, she has 2 slut friends that aren't helping either, but I also think that it is from the fallout from her realizing Frank is a piece of shyt.

Carl is a goon in the making but I like his fire, he just needs better outlets to let out all that excess energy, he is an underrated character because behind it all he's just a typical 12 year old kid.

Franks Oldest is so easily manipulated by Frank, why she thought it made sense to get him drugs is beyond me.
Yo that Native dude was pretty cool, trying to build a sweat lodge, :heh:

Sheila is a trip as always, but damn she cooks some cray shyt, those grocery bills must be out of control

Is it me or is Veronica and Kev the most organic IR couple I have seen on TV? They just seem so natural it never crosses my mind.

Frank is gonna die, imo, but it won't be this season.
Wtf dog? I don't think Fiona is selfish at all. As far as being self destructive, every single character on the show is self destructive. Fiona is one of the least self destructive. Lip is just an ungrateful, entitled piece of shyt, just like Frank.
 

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Wtf dog? I don't think Fiona is selfish at all. As far as being self destructive, every single character on the show is self destructive. Fiona is one of the least self destructive. Lip is just an ungrateful, entitled piece of shyt, just like Frank.

I think she carries her cross in a sense like she does selfless things but for selfish reasons if it makes any sense and while you're right about everyone having it, she lost that right once she became legal guardian to the kids. While I agree with your gripes with Lip, he has grown up a lot this season, and is starting to figure out that his actions affect everyone, something that Fiona forgot. I couldn't believe she would even contemplate going to trial and risking putting herself behind bars for 5 years, and who would have to pick up the pieces, Lip. As for Fiona she is extremely self destructive, she is attracted to dangerous people, like Jimmy and her boyfriends coked out brother. She seemed to turn it around after getting her GED, but this whole coke situation is gonna be a wake up call.
 

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I think she carries her cross in a sense like she does selfless things but for selfish reasons if it makes any sense and while you're right about everyone having it, she lost that right once she became legal guardian to the kids. While I agree with your gripes with Lip, he has grown up a lot this season, and is starting to figure out that his actions affect everyone, something that Fiona forgot. I couldn't believe she would even contemplate going to trial and risking putting herself behind bars for 5 years, and who would have to pick up the pieces, Lip. As for Fiona she is extremely self destructive, she is attracted to dangerous people, like Jimmy and her boyfriends coked out brother. She seemed to turn it around after getting her GED, but this whole coke situation is gonna be a wake up call.
We just gonna have to disagree. Fiona hasn't done one selfish act that I can recall. I mean she may be too naive to be from such trash. She immediately copped to the coke that was stupid as fukk. Yeah she wanted to take it trial okay and? The deal was like 90 days. Either way somebody else was gonna need to be responsible for the kids. Lip took it upon himself to do that. In all honesty he's doing more harm than good. What has Lip done to show any level of maturity? Smashing cars, treating Mandy & Fiona like shyt? Without them two his ungrateful ass wouldn't have even finished school, never mind college. Fiona has done dumbshyt but Lip ain't no better. And as far as Jimmy/Steve and her boss/boyfriend brother. What the hell makes them any worse than Frank or even Lips punk ass? At leat Jimmy/Steve was getting crazy paid to be a criminal. Frank and lip and the rest of the cast are just some brokeass criminals.
 

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:mindblown: At how this bytch almost killed little Liam, on top of fukking up at every turn this season, and y'all see Lip as the bad guy for simply reasonably upset and saying some harsh words to her. ... :what: Are we even watching the same show?
 
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Dam people really mad at lip for reacting to his brother almost dying,n possibly having brain damage. Fiona made a mistake that almost cost a life. People acting like they would be so quick to forgive that. n whats makes it worst imo is the fact that it was easily avoidable. Just put the coke where a toddler can reach it n you're good. Smarten up fiona! !
 

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Lip kinda being too hard on fiona. Straight being a bytch about it imo. Cuss her out one time and move on.

But yeah he gon smash his roomate's girl. she cute and i would probably smash if i was him. damn thats fukked up :manny:

i havent seen the wire yet, so as of right now Mickey is the goat gay character.

:whoa: he ain't better than omar :violent:
 

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I think she carries her cross in a sense like she does selfless things but for selfish reasons if it makes any sense and while you're right about everyone having it, she lost that right once she became legal guardian to the kids. While I agree with your gripes with Lip, he has grown up a lot this season, and is starting to figure out that his actions affect everyone, something that Fiona forgot. I couldn't believe she would even contemplate going to trial and risking putting herself behind bars for 5 years, and who would have to pick up the pieces, Lip. As for Fiona she is extremely self destructive, she is attracted to dangerous people, like Jimmy and her boyfriends coked out brother. She seemed to turn it around after getting her GED, but this whole coke situation is gonna be a wake up call.
bytch was barely ever home and had no idea what was going in with her brothers and sisters. Leaving them to Sheila all day. Maybe I was spoiled and had parents who dedicated their entire lives to me and my sister, but the whole "momma needs a life too" attitude doesn't make sense to me when you have adolescents. She took on that responsibility.
 

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:mindblown: At how this bytch almost killed little Liam, on top of fukking up at every turn this season, and y'all see Lip as the bad guy for simply reasonably upset and saying some harsh words to her. ... :what: Are we even watching the same show?
shyt crazy breh

nikkas really expect dude to be like :manny: "he alive so everything is ok"

Lip is a piece of shyt. No way around it. Who pushed him to finish school so he could even attend college? Who filled out the college apps? Answer to both not Lip. Who sacrificed their life so Lip and the rest of them could stay together?. What happens to Lip's great life when he gets booked and expelled for stealing? What happens when he can't keep the kids in the dorm? What happens when Social Servives make a surprise visit and nobody knows where the child is? Proud daddy Lip letting his 12 year old sister run behind a 20 year old man. No defending Lip, he's an "entitled" piece of shyt.
Why you making excuses for Fiona breh

Nobody said Lip was perfect but he has every right to be mad in this situation

Dam people really mad at lip for reacting to his brother almost dying,n possibly having brain damage. Fiona made a mistake that almost cost a life. People acting like they would be so quick to forgive that. n whats makes it worst imo is the fact that it was easily avoidable. Just put the coke where a toddler can reach it n you're good. Smarten up fiona! !
what made it worse to me was her actually saying she was innocent and talking about fighting the charge

The bytch is stupid and in that moment she needed the tough love Lip gave her

I don't see why everybody mad at Lip...at least he's trying to do right unlike the rest of the fam
 

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Fiona hasn't done one selfish act that I can recall.
What show are you watching :wtf:

I'll give her props for keeping the fam together but that's about it

Didn't she blow all they money last season trying to be a club promoter?

Her little bro dissappeared and she hasn't gave a single fukk since he's been gone

Jimmy is dead and she was already giving the guts up to a new nikka before his body even got cold, then she turns around and fukks his brother

She uses Sheila to watch the kids and clean

She usually never acknowledges Liam

IMO the only person on the show that's more selfish is Frank
 

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What show are you watching :wtf:

I'll give her props for keeping the fam together but that's about it

Didn't she blow all they money last season trying to be a club promoter?

Her little bro dissappeared and she hasn't gave a single fukk since he's been gone

Jimmy is dead and she was already giving the guts up to a new nikka before his body even got cold, then she turns around and fukks his brother

She uses Sheila to watch the kids and clean

She usually never acknowledges Liam

IMO the only person on the show that's more selfish is Frank

Let a black woman let her 3 year old get into some cocaine and let's see if cats would sing the same tune. Nikkas on here got PAWG goggles.
 

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:mindblown: At how this bytch almost killed little Liam, on top of fukking up at every turn this season, and y'all see Lip as the bad guy for simply reasonably upset and saying some harsh words to her. ... :what: Are we even watching the same show?
If she almost killed Liam so did everyone else at the party. V and Kev were playing with the little f ker. They all knew the coke was on the kitchen table. None of them moved it or kept a watchful eye on Liam. Lip has every right to be mad upset, the shyt that pisses me off is this ungrateful c*nt was screaming what about my life? p*ssy you were pissing your life away until Fiona and Mandy intervened, now you mister righteous. FOH
 

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What show are you watching :wtf:

I'll give her props for keeping the fam together but that's about it

Didn't she blow all they money last season trying to be a club promoter?

Her little bro dissappeared and she hasn't gave a single fukk since he's been gone

Jimmy is dead and she was already giving the guts up to a new nikka before his body even got cold, then she turns around and fukks his brother

She uses Sheila to watch the kids and clean

She usually never acknowledges Liam

IMO the only person on the show that's more selfish is Frank
No she didn't blow the money. She tried to flip it. Nothing selfish in that.

So says you.

Jimmy was a piece of shyt and she don't know he's dead. She been a slimey slut I don't see the issue

How terrible to have the kids have adult supervison. Oh you'd rather she leave with the thieving, drug dealing, drug addict, drunk , captain save a hoe Lip?

Total bullshyt.
 

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If she almost killed Liam so did everyone else at the party. V and Kev were playing with the little f ker. They all knew the coke was on the kitchen table. None of them moved it or kept a watchful eye on Liam. Lip has every right to be mad upset, the shyt that pisses me off is this ungrateful c*nt was screaming what about my life? p*ssy you were pissing your life away until Fiona and Mandy intervened, now you mister righteous. FOH

Liam isn't V and Kev's responsibility tho. She's the guardian and supposed leader afterall. This fukkup is massive. Child services is involved, she could end up in jail, she's lost her job. This one fukk up has sent everything into a tailspin.

Yes. Lip isn't perfect but unlike Fiona, he's realized his fukk ups and started making an effort to improve his situation both with school and the family. He's been on point since the episode where Kevin and Mandy to told him to man up and not quit. Fiona has Dropped THE Ball on every level this season. And isn't making much effort to change the problem for the better. Judging from the preview she's just feeling sorry for herself and making even more shytty decisions.
 

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No she didn't blow the money. She tried to flip it. Nothing selfish in that.

So says you.

Jimmy was a piece of shyt and she don't know he's dead. She been a slimey slut I don't see the issue

How terrible to have the kids have adult supervison. Oh you'd rather she leave with the thieving, drug dealing, drug addict, drunk , captain save a hoe Lip?

Total bullshyt.
Breh it's funny how everybody else is a "piece of shyt" "drug addict" etc but you making every excuse in the world for this pathetic bytch Fiona

1.She blew the money, I don't care what she was trying to do she still blew it cause she was only thinking of herself

2.She doesn't give a fukk about Ian.Show me one scene were she's shown any concern since he's been gone...I'll wait

3.yes Jimmy is a piece of shyt but so is Fiona

4.How about watching the kids yourself instead of pawning them off on Sheila every night so she can chase dikk.she ain't no different from these bytches who got they mother/grandmother watching they kids everyday so they can chase nikkas all day

5.Its not bullshyt at all.Debbie basically plays the mother role to Liam and it's always been like that

You can even argue she got custody for selfish reasons.She was actually a better parent before she got custody IMO

@feelosofer was right on the money when he said "she does selfless things but for selfish reasons"
 
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