Several eras in: Which was the best version of Lebron?

[ISO]

Miami Bron mainly because he was also a terror on the defensive end.

His stats from '16 on are inflated due to the rapid increase in space and pace that occurred in the NBA IMO. It might look like he was just as good but he just wasn't. Miami Bron was inevitable like Thanos.

His biggest weakness will always be his post game but the Heat were so efficient and played wide open so it didn't really hurt him in 95% of situations.

His post game is not a weakness especially bulked up LeBron post-Hakeem training in Miami.

 

[MoneyTron]

His post game is not a weakness especially bulked up LeBron post-Hakeem training in Miami.

I said biggest weakness, not “its a weakness” especially relative to the average player.

 

[ISO]

I said biggest weakness, not “its a weakness” especially relative to the average player.

He’s an above average post player.

In the post this year he’s comparable to Pascal Siakam, Enes Kanter, and Kawhi Leonard statistically as a post scorer when his passing is factored in he’s above them. He has one of the most underrated post fades.

His biggest weakness is FT shooting.

 

[MoneyTron]

He’s an above average post player.

In the post this year he’s comparable to Pascal Siakam, Enes Kanter, and Kawhi Leonard statistically as a post scorer when his passing is factored in he’s above them. He has one of the most underrated post fades.

His biggest weakness is FT shooting.

I'd have to see that against how often he's actually in the post compared to those players, more specifically his performance in Miami.

Regardless, my point stands.

 

[ISO]

I'd have to see that against how often he's actually in the post compared to those players.

Regardless, my point stands.

Your point doesn't stand. The average player is not better at posting up than LeBron that's silly shyt, you Lakers fans do not appreciate this man. I be in y'all thread god forbid he misses a shot out the post or misses a rotation on defense like any other player does.

10.3% of LeBron's plays are post ups it's right in line with DeRozan, Kawhi, Giannis, Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris, Ben Simmons post up rate.

 

[MoneyTron]

Your point doesn't stand. The average player is not better at posting up than LeBron

Where did I say that?

 

[ISO]

Where did I say that?

I read wrong forgive me beloved

 

[fifth column]

Even ignoring the only if I mentioned I think my point stands, from '11 to now. He's handled everything that is within his control and people have expectations he should somehow have a better record in The Finals like the teams he's lost to in that round haven't legit been All-Time great basketball teams. No other player in the history of the sport gets that held against them when they've run into dynasties...

His poor finals record is held against him because Bron help to create the modern “super team” phenomenon that ultimately toppled him. Let’s not forget that her wanted Kawhi to join him and AD on this Laker team.

 

[KingJay]

Miami Bron was his physical peak and when he began the mental shift he needed all along, but he peaked in 2nd run with Cavs.
I think when guys got hurt during the 2015 run his brain started to change and he fully clicked on how to just totally dominate a series consistently
Miami Bron put up 25/11/7 and 28/8/4 on the Spurs, but Cavs Bron put up 36/13/9 on the Warriors in 2015, in 2016 he put up 36/12/10/3/3 on 51/42/73 splits with less than 3topg 2017 he put up 34/12/10 on 56%FG 39%3PT and in 2018 he put up 34/9/10 again with a Game 1 of 51/8/8 on 60%FG, 43%3PT, 91%FT - maybe the GOAT Finals game
Miami Bron would never do something like that

 

[ReggieFlare]

I'm taking this guy:

 

[murksiderock]

His poor finals record is held against him because Bron help to create the modern “super team” phenomenon that ultimately toppled him. Let’s not forget that her wanted Kawhi to join him and AD on this Laker team.

But thats my point bro, it has nothing to actually do with his work on the floor. His work on the floor in that stretch has done everything humanly possible to win at the highest level without slippage in performance...

All these guys wanna collude now, bruh. Kawhi wanted KD to join him and PG. He was one-upped in the super team department and sure, blame it on him for starting it, I just feel like it's nonsensical because it has nothing to do with his play. Two other guys also colluded to create the modern super team and one of those guys, it's been repeatedly mentioned on here, was allegedly better than both Kobe and LeBron before then, so if he was that great why did he need to conspire to get two other guys to join him? The other guy in that super team its repeatedly been said on here that, that guy was a legit superstar who could carry his own weight, where's the accountability?

The narratives about LeBron often drift away from actual work on the floor and are applied specifically and only to him, is the issue I have with that...

 

[fifth column]

But thats my point bro, it has nothing to actually do with his work on the floor. His work on the floor in that stretch has done everything humanly possible to win at the highest level without slippage in performance...

All these guys wanna collude now, bruh. Kawhi wanted KD to join him and PG. He was one-upped in the super team department and sure, blame it on him for starting it, I just feel like it's nonsensical because it has nothing to do with his play. Two other guys also colluded to create the modern super team and one of those guys, it's been repeatedly mentioned on here, was allegedly better than both Kobe and LeBron before then, so if he was that great why did he need to conspire to get two other guys to join him? The other guy in that super team its repeatedly been said on here that, that guy was a legit superstar who could carry his own weight, where's the accountability?

The narratives about LeBron often drift away from actual work on the floor and are applied specifically and only to him, is the issue I have with that...

I’m not following your logic. LeBron sought to create an unfair advantage to easy chips that end up back firing on him. I’m not knocking his choice nor his greatness just pointing out why his teams faced such tough adversity. You can’t tell the story without telling the story.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Miami Bron was his physical peak and when he began the mental shift he needed all along, but he peaked in 2nd run with Cavs.
I think when guys got hurt during the 2015 run his brain started to change and he fully clicked on how to just totally dominate a series consistently
Miami Bron put up 25/11/7 and 28/8/4 on the Spurs, but Cavs Bron put up 36/13/9 on the Warriors in 2015, in 2016 he put up 36/12/10/3/3 on 51/42/73 splits with less than 3topg 2017 he put up 34/12/10 on 56%FG 39%3PT and in 2018 he put up 34/9/10 again with a Game 1 of 51/8/8 on 60%FG, 43%3PT, 91%FT - maybe the GOAT Finals game
Miami Bron would never do something like that

Those playoff numbers from 2015 to 2018
Ridiculous

 

[CarltonJunior]

Heat Bron is the best mesh of his athleticism and skill coming together and is his prime. 1st Cleveland stint was freakish athleticism not as skilled, 2nd Cleveland stint was more skill coming into play, got comfortable with his shot, this Lakers version of LeBron is the best he's been as a passer and shooter but slightly less athletic, and pretty much a non-factor on defense.

 

[ISO]

pretty much a non-factor on defense.

LeBron is ranked as a top 5 wing defender in 2020.