Several arrested after new gang rape in India

[The Real]

New Dehli and India may be the rape capitals of the world.

In order to determine that, we would need to compare this: Rapes (per capita) statistics - countries compared - Crime data on NationMaster

and a good estimate about what percentage of rapes go underreported in various countries, India included.

I personally even know people who have been sexually assaulted there.

So do I. And I know people who've been raped here, too.

How many rapes do you think get reported and are calculated.

I think rape is vastly underreported in India when compared to here. I also think that rape is not dealt with as thoroughly in India as it is here. Even if you factor that in, though, you find that the stats are not significantly different by any reasonable estimate. In short, Indian rape would have to be reported 25 times less in order to fully account for the disparity, which is an unrealistic stat to attach to problems with reporting alone.

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For example, this BBC article states, as if shocking, the statistic that a woman is raped in Delhi every 14 hours. That equates to 625 a year. Yet in England and Wales, which has a population about 3.5 times that of Delhi, we find a figure for recorded rapes of women that is proportionately four times larger: 9,509. Similarly, the Wall Street Journal decries the fact that in India just over a quarter of alleged rapists are convicted; in the US only 24% of alleged rapes even result in an arrest, never mind a conviction. This is the strange kind of reportage you tend to get on the issue.

There are dozens of current Indian politicians facing prosecution for rape or have been convicted.

Maybe, but the Indian parliament has about 800 MPs, compared to our 435-person Congress, and there are currently no reliable stats for US congressmen who are facing such charges, so I can't compare. I'm unwilling to speculate on this point without more information, since American politicians often get away with a lot, too. When was the last time an American politician who was accused of rape was attacked and beaten by his constituents: Indian politician accused of rape is publicly beaten and stripped by mob of angry women* - NY Daily News

 

[88m3]

I'm just getting done with work now and have to go to ct at 1am I'll revisit this tomorrow.

 

[Poppa_Dock]

terrible piece of shyt country trying to bring the west down to their level what else is new

 

[superunknown23]

India worst place to be a woman.
India worst place for women among top 19 economies, Canada best - Hindustan Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/w...ath-india-debates-violence-against-women.html

 

[The Real]

If we were talking about abortion/foeticide or widow-shaming or widow-burning, the conversation would be very different, as none of those things are problems in the US the way they are in India, but all of those are part of the calculations for "worst place for women" that you posted. It's a different story to just compare rape rates alone, as this recent trend of articles has been focusing on. IMO, we should try to be as specific as possible with these discussions, especially when we're talking about countries we don't actually know that much about.

 

[Serious]

Ironically, in the past, I found it interesting, while watching several seasons of "The Amazing Race"(cbs game show),that whenever white female participants, packed on to a crowded train in India, they unanimously reported being groped insurmountably by various male passengers. Not to mention, the ratio of men to women, on the trains, was unproportionately high as well...

Modern psychology tells us, that individuals are more than likely to act out of character, when comprised of a group / gang.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Tragic as this is, I don't find all this sudden attention on rape in India in good faith at all, especially when the rape stats for Indian cities like Delhi aren't significantly different from rape stats for London or even NYC (which actually has a higher rape rate than Delhi.)

A mentally-ill girl was allegedly just gang-raped in NYC, and almost no one is focusing on that story, while we're getting a flood of articles about a rape on the other side of the world.

This seems more like white liberal/conservative paternalism and abjection/denial than genuine concern for women. Anyway, I hope the additional coverage on India helps change that country.

True.

and on another note, poor women and villagers are raped everyday in India and nobody gives a fukk...but some college chick gets raped and people are marching in the streets over there? I can't take that seriously, sorry India.

 

[No1]

It comes down to this, the media reports stories that are uncommon or "different." Unfortunately, too many people equate the extent to which the media reports about something to its actual prevalence.

 

[88m3]

It comes down to this, the media reports stories that are uncommon or "different." Unfortunately, too many people equate the extent to which the media reports about something to its actual prevalence.

That clearly isn't he case here

 

[No1]

That clearly isn't he case here

I know it's an issue there and it's clearly more dangerous for women there than here just on the basis of daily harassment because people are more bold about it. But to what extent. that's harder to calculate.

Honestly, this attention is a good thing, it'll make it harder to just brush this type of stuff off.

 

[TheReal_Broke_88m3_13]

A 14-year-old rape survivor was allegedly forced to strip at a police station in eastern Uttar Pradesh, India, apparently to prove that she was sexually assaulted.

According to TNN, the teen said she was asked to remove her clothes in front of a male police officer to convince him "that her allegations of rape were genuine and not concocted."

"He took me into a room and closed the door and asked me to remove my clothes," the girl stated in a complaint filed this week against the police station, per TNN.

NDTV says that the incident occurred Saturday when the teenager went to the police station with her parents to report that she had been raped by a local resident. Officers at the station allegedly refused to process her report.

Following the family's complaint this week, the alleged rapist has reportedly been arrested and the police officer accused of forcing the girl to strip is said to be under investigation.

Rape and sexual assault remain staggering problems in India. According to Russian news outlet RT, quoting data from India's National Crime Records Bureau, one woman is believed to be raped every 20 minutes in the country.

In December, protests erupted across India after a young woman was brutally gang raped on a bus in New Delhi. Click through this slideshow to see photos from those demonstrations:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/rape-victim-strip-police-station-india_n_3991277.html

 

[The Real]

It comes down to this, the media reports stories that are uncommon or "different." Unfortunately, too many people equate the extent to which the media reports about something to its actual prevalence.

The real problem, imo, is the location of the reports combined with frequency of articles. It's easier to do reports about savage acts in faraway lands. I did a small search for comparison. There have been several gang rapes in the US within the last month, including one in which 4 women were kidnapped at once by several attackers. You don't see big reports about those (all the news stories didn't make it past local media) but somehow, our national media is fine with reporting gang rapes in India.

Now, obviously, a poorer country with weaker rule of law is going to have a higher rape rate than the US- there's no doubt about that, but focusing on those rapes over there while ignoring what's happening here skews the perception of the disparity far beyond reason and distracts us from us dealing with our own problems.

All that being said, of course the story in that article is repulsive.

 

[88m3]

The real problem, imo, is the location of the reports combined with frequency of articles. It's easier to do reports about savage acts in faraway lands. I did a small search for comparison. There have been several gang rapes in the US within the last month, including one in which 4 women were kidnapped at once by several attackers. You don't see big reports about those (all the news stories didn't make it past local media) but somehow, our national media is fine with reporting gang rapes in India.

Now, obviously, a poorer country with weaker rule of law is going to have a higher rape rate than the US- there's no doubt about that, but focusing on those rapes over there while ignoring what's happening here skews the perception of the disparity far beyond reason and distracts us from us dealing with our own problems.

All that being said, of course the story in that article is repulsive.

The problem is clearly your clanish attitude.

 

[TheReal_Broke_88m3_13]

The real problem, imo, is the location of the reports combined with frequency of articles. It's easier to do reports about savage acts in faraway lands. I did a small search for comparison. There have been several gang rapes in the US within the last month, including one in which 4 women were kidnapped at once by several attackers. You don't see big reports about those (all the news stories didn't make it past local media) but somehow, our national media is fine with reporting gang rapes in India.

Now, obviously, a poorer country with weaker rule of law is going to have a higher rape rate than the US- there's no doubt about that, but focusing on those rapes over there while ignoring what's happening here skews the perception of the disparity far beyond reason and distracts us from us dealing with our own problems.

All that being said, of course the story in that article is repulsive.

rape throughout human society seems to be more prevalent than I ever thought.

Do you have the link for this story btw.

 

[The Real]

rape throughout human society seems to be more prevalent than I ever thought.

Do you have the link for this story btw.