Set Your F*ckery Alarm: R Kelly to sit down with CBS for Interview

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i dunno.... can’t imagine the mental torture if the girls’ story is true tho.

The parents tell you to lie about your age and shove you in front of a grown man...then get on tv and blast that you’re brainwashed and on some mental bull$hit and you’re now thrilling the world that your parents are liars?
 

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You are going off rumors and hearsay.
Fame really does make people almost bulletproof. The fact that at this point the mountains of evidence (including a very popular and widely spread sex tape with a minor) is considered rumor and hearsay is pretty wild. He married Aaliyah when she was 15. That's enough evidence right there to suggest the dude is into girls that aren't of legal age.

When we were in middle school he was hanging out at a Bush Gardens without any of his own kids around. I don't know what he was doing there but he sure as hell wasn't riding rides and he was talking to kids.

I'm not even tripping on him liking young women as long as they're adults. It's not like some girl said she was 18 and he found out later she wasn't. If dude is going out of his way to go after or even groom girls that aren't old enough to consent then he's being a predator, and he's got even more ability to do it due to his fame and wealth.

I feel bad for everyone involved, even Kells to some extent. I do think ppl are attracted to who they're attracted to. I don't believe he woke up and chose to be attracted to underage girls. So I can't imagine what it's like to have an attraction that you can't help, and to deep down know it's not okay. And studies tell us that once someone has a strong fantasy they will eventually act on it.

It's tough to know where to draw the line, because as a society I don't think we should punish people for thought-crimes. But here have a well documented history and pattern of predatory behavior towards children. R Kelly got lucky one time and dodged the bullet on the 1st sex tape, but this time it's a wrap. I think he's gonna serve some actual prison time on these charges.
 
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big difference between somebody that's 18 or 19 vs 13, 14, 15, 16, or 17. I personally wouldn't dare date a girl under 21 and would actually prefer 25 and older but that's just me.



I was done with him the moment I heard about it. They kept that well under wraps.

Yep. I agree with all that.

And honestly to me age difference is of less importance than a big imbalance in power or large differences in psychological maturity. If one person has a lot more power/money/resources than the other and they use that as leverage over the other person in a relationship, I think that's a much bigger problem than the age difference itself.

Didn't know that about Paul Walker...that's crazy.
 

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Can we make another thread with the understanding that

  • YES, WE ARE DISGUSTED BY THE PARENTS OF THESE YOUNG WOMAN.
  • YES, RKelly took advantage of an opportunity to benefit off of the parents disregard for their children's wellbeing .
  • YES, we are talking about this today instead of 2 weeks ago because there is so much other shyt that is fukked in this world that we had our attention on that and it doesn't prohibit us from expressing our displeasure about what we feel is RKelly's record of predatory behavior.
  • So, YES, we have a right to discuss RKelly's position in the court of public opinion.

This way, we eliminate most of the attempts by RKelly's sympathizers to derail any valid opinion on this fukked up public figure.

shyt.

I can't believe nikkas have the audacity to really try to somehow recast the spotlight on regular people who have a right to analyze the information before them and form an opinion.

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Myth:
"These girls, whether 13 or 18 knew what they got themselves into just like I knew what was right and wrong at 13"

Reality:
No, that is not necessarily true! A person's personal trauma, poor upbringing and lack of proper paternal guidance can contribute to the development of unhealthy and dangerous risk taking because of that trauma such as trusting and bonding with an adult sexual opportunist who is also famous and psychologically powerful compared to their young, weak psyche.

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Myth:
"RKelly was just minding his business. If it wasn't for the parents greed and prostituting their daughter, he wouldn't be publicly lynched for just being a man"

Reality:
:what:Predators don't usually prey on victims with strong familial backgrounds. They know how to pick out their victims. Look up the usual profile of a juvenile sexual victim and you'll see a pattern - a child who is neglected & psychologically searching for attention and acceptance; who also tend to be very withdrawn regarding problems and pain so they tend to stay quiet and be intimidated when threatened/persuaded that no one would believe them.

Nothing these parents recklessly did take away from the sick decision making of RKelly

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Myth:
"You know how you know this is a public lynching!? Clearly he has been low key since that first scandal that blew up, why would he just allow himself to risk all of his reputation and further abuse any juvenile??

What sane man would do that?!"

Reality:
:what:That logic fails because in the Gayle King interview, he literally admitted that these parents essentially held out these young girls as BAIT. He said it as an attempt to displace blame from him but that further makes him look ridiculous, why?

If he has so much to lose and he is really thinking strategically, why would you even allow yourself to get involved in a situation where a 17 YEAR OLD GIRL'S father happen to bring his daughter to you and encourage a relationship to develop???

A sane man, even one who has learned from. His mistakes WOULD NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO GET INVOLVED IN SUCH A TIMEBOMB OF A CIRCUMSTANCE.

His admissions in the interview only show him to be just as much of a fool as he seems to be predatory.



Now... I'm sure as clever as I think I am...nikkas will still find a way to juelz out of this for the sake of defending this dude.:snoop:
 
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Lot of pedophiles or pedophile sympathizers in here.
I give some benefit of the doubt to people that are in love with someone's music. I think a lot of R Kelly sympathizers (I hope) are folks that just refuse to believe that the music they love is tainted. The music you listen to especially when you're coming of age is so close to your heart. If someone's music was the soundtrack to important moments in your life you don't want that well to be poisoned.

At the same time, R Kelly's situation goes one step above because of its content. So a lot of people's music may remind of your favorite summer, or your first car, or whatever. But R. Kelly's music reminds a lot of people of their own sexual experiences and some of their most intimate moments. Then you think like, 'Oh shyt, well if he's singing all that and he was with kids, then is he signing that about kids?" And it really fukks with your head to think you had a lot of intimate moments to the soundtrack of a man possibly singing about fukking kids.

I hope most of his sympathizers are in that boat and aren't on some pedo shyt.
 

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Can we make another thread with the understanding that

  • YES, WE ARE DISGUSTED BY THE PARENTS OF THESE YOUNG WOMAN.
  • YES, RKelly took advantage of an opportunity to benefit off of the parents disregard for their children's wellbeing .
  • YES, we are talking about this today instead of 2 weeks ago because there is so much other shyt that is fukked in this world that we had our attention on that and it doesn't prohibit is from expressing our displeasure about what we feel is RKelly's record of predatory behavior.
  • So, YES, we have a right to discuss RKelly's position in the court of public opinion.

This way, we eliminate most of the attempts by RKelly's sympathizers to derail any valid opinion on this fukked up public figure.

shyt.

I can't believe nikkas have the audacity to really try to somehow recast the spotlight on regular people who have a right to analyze the information before them and form an opinion.


Myth:
"These girls, whether 13 or 18 knew what they got themselves into just like I knew what was right and wrong at 13"

Reality:
No, that is not necessarily true! A person's personal trauma, poor upbringing and lack of proper paternal guidance can contribute to the development of unhealthy and dangerous risk taking because of that trauma such as trusting and bonding with an adult sexual opportunist who is also famous and psychologically powerful compared to their young, weak psyche.

---------------

Myth:
"RKelly was just minding his business. If it wasn't for the parents greed and prostituting their daughter, he wouldn't be publicly lynched for just being a man"

Reality:
:what:Predators don't usually prey on victims with strong familial backgrounds. They know how to pick out their victims. Look up the usual profile of a juvenile sexual victim and you'll see a pattern - a child who is neglected & psychologically searching for attention and acceptance; who also tend to be very withdrawn regarding problems and pain so they tend to stay quiet and be intimidated when threatened/persuaded that no one would believe them.

Nothing these parents recklessly did take away from the sick decision making of RKelly

--------------------

Myth:
"You know how you know this is a public lynching!? Clearly he has been low key since that first scandal that blew up, why would he just allow himself to risk all of his reputation and further abuse any juvenile??

What sane man would do that?!"

Reality:
:what:That logic fails because in the Gayle King interview, he literally admitted that these parents essentially held out these young girls as BAIT. He said it as an attempt to displace blame from him but that further makes him look ridiculous, why?

If he has so much to lose and he is really thinking strategically, why would you even allow yourself to get involved in a situation where a 17 YEAR OLD GIRL'S father happen to bring his daughter to you and encourage a relationship to develop???

A sane man, even one who has learned from. His mistakes WOULD NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO GET INVOLVED IN SUCH A TIMEBOMB OF A CIRCUMSTANCE.

His admissions in the interview only show him to be just as much of a fool as he seems to be predatory.



Now... I'm sure as clever as I think I am...nikkas will still find a way to juelz out of this for the sake of defending this dude.:snoop:
Didnt read:webb3:
 

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It's over for Robert .....amazing musician, but sickk person

Listened to I Wish last night :ohlawd: and breh was crying out for help and it is obvious over the years, that he had noone in his corner who talk some sense into him, even bac in the Aaliyah days. It's all one big mess and while the hammer of the law will come down on Kellz......EVERYBODY else is culpable in some way, shape or form.
 

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I am tired of this money narrative these people like to throw out there. There are easier ways to get money than conjure up a story about your daughter being taken away by R. Kelly, calling the police, hiring a lawyer, doing interviews and pretty much opening your entire life up for scrutiny.
Yep.

Occam's razor - Wikipedia

"Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that essentially states that "simpler solutions are more likely to be correct than complex ones". When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions."

It takes a true conspiracy theorist to not just look at the facts and come up with a simple conclusion here. I came in the thread expecting to see fukkery and was surprised to see debate and how many people believe the man is 100% innocent.
 

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Yep. I agree with all that.

And honestly to me age difference is of less importance than a big imbalance in power or large differences in psychological maturity. If one person has a lot more power/money/resources than the other and they use that as leverage over the other person in a relationship, I think that's a much bigger problem than the age difference itself.

Didn't know that about Paul Walker...that's crazy.

I feel the same way.

5 New Details About Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell, Paul Walker's Girlfriend At The Time Of His Death
https://jalopnik.com/when-are-we-going-to-address-how-paul-walker-had-relati-1828227580

The Paul Walker thing is crazy because her parents consented to their relationship. Paul Walker met her when she was 16. That wasn't his only girlfriend he had that he met at 16.

The age of consent is California is 18. Paul Walker was very much :sitdown:
 

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not really i just felt like
most folk wasnt gonna read that long ass shyt :russ:
I didn't do that for them. I'm working on my argument making which is practice for the career I'm in. I'm arrogant, nikka, I look back at my diatribes and pat myself on my back. No shame.:mjgrin:

Oh, and shout to the nikkas who dapped and read that long ass shyt.:salute:
 
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