Seriously what makes Ronald Reagan a legend to repubs?

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*Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., which at the time was known for only one thing: the Ku Klux Klan murder of three civil rights workers. Reagan, using the code words of the day, said, “I believe in states rights.” (just like George Wallace, Orval Faubus and other white southern politicians before him)

*Reagan was opposed to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964.

*He was also opposed to the Fair Housing Act, saying: "“If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.”

*As president, he actually tried to weaken the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (he called it a great insult to the South).

*He tried to veto the Civil Rights Restoration Act passed by Congress to overturn a Supreme Court ruling (Grove City v. Bell) that limited the remedies available to the federal government when going after private organizations that receive federal subsidies. The democratic-led Congress overrode Reagan’s veto.

*He tried to get rid of the federal ban on tax exemptions for private schools that practiced racial discrimination (Bob Jones University). Congress blocked it.

*In 1988, he opposed a bill to expand the reach of federal civil rights legislation. The democratic Congress overrode the veto.

*Reagan also opposed the imposition of sanctions on the apartheid regime in South Africa. The Democratic Congress overrode that veto, too.
After one of Reagan's pro-apartheid speeches, the normally mild-mannered Bishop Desmond Tutu said: “I found it quite nauseating. I think the West can go to hell…Your president is the pits as far as blacks are concerned. He sits there like the great, big white chief of old.”

*He referenced to black women as "Cadillac-driving welfare queens" (nevermind that most welfare recipients are white)

*He opposed the MLK holiday: When John Conyers introduced the bill with the backing of the NAACP, Reagan vowed to veto it.
He only signed it after the democratic Congress passed the law with a veto-proof majority. All 22 senators who opposed it were republicans.
Reagan signed the law grudgingly, noting he did so because “Congress seemed bent on making it a national holiday.”

Black people didn't hate him by accident. He was a racist, plain and simple. :birdman:
He also held up funding for AIDS research for 3 years after it was initially described as a "gay disease" by Jerry Falwell and the Christian right.
 

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Eisenhower may be the best prez in modern history, and certainly of the repubs. He is the one that should be praised. Unfortunately he shyt on the gop and has quotes that prevent him from being trumpeted. His exit speech :damn:

I think he would have won the past election against obama. Eisenhower was a true moderate and who would be better to protect american interests with modern tech and diplomatic power than eisenhower? :why:

Eisenhower vs obama on foreign policy in debates would be crack


Damn breh, did you just compare the Supreme Allied Commander, one of only a handful of 5 Star Generals in this history of the United States, and a Veteran of two world wars to the current President on foreign policy?

Jesus. Not a knock on Barack, but holy shyt.
 

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Eisenhower may be the best prez in modern history, and certainly of the repubs. He is the one that should be praised. Unfortunately he shyt on the gop and has quotes that prevent him from being trumpeted. His exit speech :damn:

I think he would have won the past election against obama. Eisenhower was a true moderate and who would be better to protect american interests with modern tech and diplomatic power than eisenhower? :why:

Eisenhower vs obama on foreign policy in debates would be crack

Eisenhower was the last Repub president that was worth two fukks and he left office 52 years ago.

The "conservative" movement over the past few decades has been vehemently wrong about almost everything--civil rights, gender equality, gay rights, trickle down economics, immigration, Iraq War and neocon foreign policy, Medicare, deregulation of the banks, privatizing social security, fiscal stimulus, climate change, separation of church of state, war on drugs, abortion rights, stem cell research, healthcare, etc.

And every time they fight tooth and nail to the bitter end, clinging to their stubborn wrongness and have to be drug kicking and screaming into the modern world and somehow there's no real repercussions.
 

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3. The notion that Reagan defeated the USSR by outspending it simply isn't true. The Soviet model bankrupted itself through economic mismanagement and was on the way out. The Trilateral Commission (no tinfoil) concluded as early as 1972 I believe that the Soviets were on their way out and couldn't sustain themselves and it was just a matter of time. That's why Gorbachev started to liberalize their policies through glasnost and perestroika because he was just trying to soften the fall. The USSR would've ended up in the bushes no matter who was President. Reagan was just lucky enough to be there at the right time like Clinton was during the tech boom and Greenspan's "make it rain" monetary policy.

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Damn breh, did you just compare the Supreme Allied Commander, one of only a handful of 5 Star Generals in this history of the United States, and a Veteran of two world wars to the current President on foreign policy?

Jesus. Not a knock on Barack, but holy shyt.

The debates would be entertaining not competitive :russ:

Eisenhower was described as being unable to make it out of primaries by someone else..lol

He would destroy obama in that debate and win in possible landslide
 

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Reagan is their God cause Bush and Bush Jr were average to terrible Presidents. Clinton outshines both Bush's in both of his terms, which is why there were jealous and trying to impeach him. Now Obama after 1 term is already better than both Bush's. Reagan is all they have for the modern era. But for the middle class, he didn't do a great job and many low income people suffered under Reaganomics. But he did make a lot of Rich, Richer and he had some foreign policy successes. Add in the whole War on Drugs and Crack Epidemic along with Aids. But Reagan did have some liberal polices like Immigration.

He was just the President for a transformative era which was the 1980's. But the reason is he became a Legend right after Bush got in cause he the only one Republicans to point too. But they've made a statue already and renamed Airports so Reagan's Legacy has blown up huge since his death. Funny his son is a liberal and not like his father but understand his Father does have a strong Legacy, sadly wither we Liberal or open people like it or not. Reagan will be considered a Great President cause they've already elevated him to Iconic Status.

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Honestly...Reagan is the only President they can even be proud of. They barely talk about Bush Sr and never speak about his son. They look at their last four decades of Republican Presidents and go...:ld:
 

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he did pass immigration amnesty :manny:
 

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I never understood the fascination people had with him either. We saw his economic policies put in place during his term and for 16 years(technically 20 when you count the first 4 years of Obama) after he left office and we seen they cause a surplus to turn into a deficit and can cripple our economic system if they are left unchecked, or implemented for too long. His own economic advisors at the time now regret and question some of the policy decisions they made. Then there was the income gap between the rich and middle class widening during his term in office like never before, and his union busting, disproving the claim that he helped the group during his presidency. Can't forget his stances on civil rights, WOD, and civil liberties.

He might be the best the GOP has had over the last 40 years, but he is certainly not one of the best presidents in our nations history. His dismal domestic record, hurts his solid foreign policy one, and takes a huge chunk off his legacy in my book.
 

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Republicans/Conservatives - love him because he's the most successful GOP president next to Ike and arguably the most successful "conservative" president in over 100 years.

The Media - love him because he was the second best "media" president after JFK.

Some Democrats - respect him because he was firm but willing to compromise on certain things...and was more personable than the previous president.


I don't agree with much of his policies and think they were destructive in the long run...but u gotta give the guy credit for "spiritually" reviving the U.S. (and somewhat the world) after the terrible 70s. His swag led Americans to become more patriotic and love their country and made the 80s in the U.S. a special era.
 

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1. Reagan's economic policies led to a quadrupling of the deficit and it's not because of the Democratic congress preventing him from "starving the beast." He didn't want to make huge entitlement cuts proportional to rate cuts and he drastically increased military spending. He thought massive top marginal rate cuts would lead to more revenue and didn't work that way.

2. Paul Volcker slashing interest rates and expanding the money supply after contacting it to tackle inflation in the late 70's had much more to do with ending the recession than Reagan's fiscal policies.

3. The notion that Reagan defeated the USSR by outspending it simply isn't true. The Soviet model bankrupted itself through economic mismanagement and was on the way out. The Trilateral Commission (no tinfoil) concluded as early as 1972 I believe that the Soviets were on their way out and couldn't sustain themselves and it was just a matter of time. That's why Gorbachev started to liberalize their policies through glasnost and perestroika because he was just trying to soften the fall. The USSR would've ended up in the bushes no matter who was President. Reagan was just lucky enough to be there at the right time like Clinton was during the tech boom and Greenspan's "make it rain" monetary policy.

Thats my VVD :smugbiden::myman::steviej:
 
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