Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!

[Dr. Acula]

Even if Bernie's bill passed Trump would veto it and it would die.

I think the point is that it's something to build on in 2018 and if democrats take back the reins of power in 2020.

Also this is a movement of the Overton window. The goal is in the long term making the discussion of universal healthcare normal. Right now, and I think it's changed drastically just over the last year, the conservative no government intervention is best is leading the conversation. That needs to change.

I don't expect this to pass in a republican dominated congress and president. People aren't stupid. But this is setting up an issue that voters will consider as a litmus test for future candidate and future elections and if it's 2024 before we even sniff such a system , you can guarantee the road started at this point to get to that point down the road.

We discussed government revamps to healthcare since Johnson. There was another spate of discussion during the Clinton and bush era before we ended up with ACA.

 

[Dr. Acula]

I think the point is that it's something to build on in 2018 and if democrats take back the reins of power in 2020.

Also this is a movement of the Overton window. The goal is in the long term making the discussion of universal healthcare normal. Right now, and I think it's changed drastically just over the last year, the conservative no government intervention is best is leading the conversation. That needs to change.

I don't expect this to pass in a republican dominated congress and president. People aren't stupid. But this is setting up an issue that voters will consider as a litmus test for future candidate and future elections and if it's 2024 before we even sniff such a system , you can guarantee the road started at this point to get to that point down the road.

We discussed government revamps to healthcare since Johnson. There was another spate of discussion during the Clinton and bush era before we ended up with ACA.

To add an illustration

We need to get the idea of universal healthcare in the middle. The dead middle is making it actual policy.

Right now, to a lot of Americans, it resides in the the radical and unthinkable "less freedom" range.

Medicare for all, even it fails, moves us closer to the middle.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[rightfultoefinger]

Honestly, fukk it. They should repeal it. This shyt is tiring. Not to sound harsh or anything but McCain is going to die soon and they'll just get someone in there who would vote yes anyway. I mean, can the Dems pick up any Senate seats in the midterm? I actually think they'll lose more seats.

 

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NYTimes explanatory graphic: The Latest Health Care Repeal Plan Would Give States Sweeping Discretion

 

[ineedsleep212]

 

[wickedsm]

blue state Rs, they do exsist....

 

[tru_m.a.c]

blue state Rs, they do exsist....

For those who do not know, downstate is NYC, and this nikka is a lie

NYC hospitals were not against medicaid expansion.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Honestly, fukk it. They should repeal it. This shyt is tiring. Not to sound harsh or anything but McCain is going to die soon and they'll just get someone in there who would vote yes anyway. I mean, can the Dems pick up any Senate seats in the midterm? I actually think they'll lose more seats.

Have you seen the map? Dems losing seats is a lock

 

[afterlife2009]

 

[FAH1223]

Turns out "states' rights" is only a thing when it comes to owning human beings

 

[wickedsm]

fukk this dude. he thinks he should have the power to fukk his own state
and then demand other states fukk their people