Seems like half the board accepts jesus as the lord, while the other half doesnt

[Mr. Somebody]

you called me immoral when the way you view the bible and god is seen as immoral as well.

don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

You misunderstood me. Maybe you feel guilty because those are your words not mine.

 

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i don't believe. its all hype

 

[Bud Bundy]

You misunderstood me.

care to explain yourself then or would you rather me keep this misperception.

 

[Brown_Pride]

the bible is a novel that hasnt been distributed to what, 70% of the planet? :belip:

how is every human going to be judged by whats contained in those pages.

that's why i said i don't know God's will. I don't know what he plans to do with those people who haven't heard of "the news". I suspect that's why there is a JUDGEMENT of some sort to take place.

based on my own book? I didn't write the bible.

no but you believe in it.

If you don't believe that Jesus is the lord you can not be saved. If you are not saved then you get rejected by god and go to hell.

That is the whole thing about being a Christian to spread the word of Jesus so people can be saved at the final judgement.

unless your some other type of Christian who practices something else.

yes but you do not go DIRECTLY to hell, as in you get shot, and gain consciousnesses in hell. You wait to be judge like everyone else.

 

[Bud Bundy]

no but you believe in it.


yes but you do not go DIRECTLY to hell, as in you get shot, and gain consciousnesses in hell. You wait to be judge like everyone else.

i am referencing what it says in the bible and coming to a logical conclusion of the extension of what it says. Me believing it or not is irrelevant because what is says is what it says.

and please post a line from the new testament where it says you can be saved without acknowledging Jesus as your savior.

 

[Brown_Pride]

i am referencing what it says in the bible and coming to a logical conclusion of the extension of what it says. Me believing it or not is irrelevant because what is says is what it says.

and please post a line from the new testament where it says you can be saved without acknowledging Jesus as your savior.

I will as soon as you post that line that says jews go directly to hell, which was my question to you back oh so many posts ago. I also never said you could be saved without jesus, i said you don't go directly to hell. I've now said that 4-5 times, somewhere you're arguing with someone and confusing me with him.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

care to explain yourself then or would you rather me keep this misperception.

I did explain myself and you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I will as soon as you post that line that says jews go directly to hell, which was my question to you back oh so many posts ago. I also never said you could be saved without jesus, i said you don't go directly to hell. I've now said that 4-5 times, somewhere you're arguing with someone and confusing me with him.

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” act 4:12

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:16

People who don't accept Jesus as there savior are not saved. If you don't accept that you go to hell (or not in gods presence which is same thing).

there is no "well you don't believe in jesus but let me judge your other actions". If you failed the first requirement then your destination is hell.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I did explain myself and you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

obviously it was not clear.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

no hell if you don't know jesus you would just be chilling in purgatory with the Islmaics and all the others. Jews are one's who go automatically to hell for not believing in Jesus.

haha is this what churches actually teach?

 

[Bud Bundy]

haha is this what churches actually teach?

depends on the preacher and type of Christianity you practice but the general idea among believers of christ is if you don't accept Jesus then your hell bond. Jews had the inside track and failed to recognize and continue to do so.

except Jews for christ they are winning on both ends.

 

[Brown_Pride]

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” act 4:12

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:16

People who don't accept Jesus as there savior are not saved. If you don't accept that you go to hell (or not in gods presence which is same thing).

there is no "well you don't believe in jesus but let me judge your other actions". If you failed the first requirement then your destination is hell.

you're just not reading now are you.
You said,

"Jews are one's who go automatically to hell for not believing in Jesus.

I said you're full of shyt. You responded by saying Jesus saves. I know that. your claim though isn't found in any "christian" book i know of, so I asked you to point out that JEWS go directly to hell when they die.

What's funny is you bring up purgatory and Islamic people. KNOWLEDGE of Jessus doesn't save, belief in Jesus being God's son and the sacrafice of Jesus for your sins is what saves. So even you're own standards and understanding of who goes to heaven are pretty ...odd when using biblical references.

again simply believing Jesus existed does't save you, nor do you go directly to hell, you are judged first THEN go to hell

 

[Bud Bundy]

you're just not reading now are you.
You said,

I said you're full of shyt. You responded by saying Jesus saves. I know that. your claim though isn't found in any "christian" book i know of, so I asked you to point out that JEWS go directly to hell when they die.

What's funny is you bring up purgatory and Islamic people. KNOWLEDGE of Jessus doesn't save, belief in Jesus being God's son and the sacrafice of Jesus for your sins is what saves. So even you're own standards and understanding of who goes to heaven are pretty ...odd when using biblical references.

again simply believing Jesus existed does't save you, nor do you go directly to hell, you are judged first THEN go to hell

your right it does not say that i was coming to a logical conclusion given the evidence I was provided. Your right those who don't accept Christ are judged because of that belief and then sent to hell.

And i bring up purgatory and Muslims because that is what the catholic church says happens to those who never heard the word of christ they are placed in purgatory along with those who came before Jesus.

 

[Brown_Pride]

your right it does not say that i was coming to a logical conclusion given the evidence I was provided. Your right those who don't accept Christ are judged because of that belief and then sent to hell.

And i bring up purgatory and Muslims because that is what the catholic church says happens to those who never heard the word of christ they are placed in purgatory along with those who came before Jesus.

muslims have been shown the word of god though in a lot of cases, they know who Jesus is and have had people tell them about the word, they are choosing to ignore that.

not a whole lot of people NOT exposed to JC at this point in time.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

depends on the preacher and type of Christianity you practice but the general idea among believers of christ is if you don't accept Jesus then your hell bond. Jews had the inside track and failed to recognize and continue to do so.

except Jews for christ they are winning on both ends.

so you're catholic right?