Second AHCA vote underway: Update - Vote Done; Exemption denied; ACHA passed in the House 217 - 213

On Passage of the ACHA and removal of congressional exemption

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Senate won't vote on House-passed healthcare bill

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A Senate proposal is now being developed by a 12-member working group. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, senators said, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process.

From the end of the article:
"It was kind of a moot issue if the House wasn't going to be able to pass a bill and now they have and I'm proud of them for doing it," Cornyn said. "Now it's up to us to pass a bill 51 senators can agree to."
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Question for everybody/knowledgeable people:

Is it true that the republican Senators can rewrite this whole thing and then not have to send it back to the House because of some technicality/law? And then, lastly, they can pass it with 50 Repub senators plus deciding vote being Vice President Pence?

If so, this was a clever move by Republicans.
"It’s not just that the bill must pass the Senate, but that senators are already sayingthey will want to make significant changes to the current legislation. Then, that revised bill (or whatever legislation the two chambers agree on in the “conference” process by which the two chambers resolve different versions of bills) must be approved by both bodies. In short, Thursday’s vote was almost certainly not the last Obamacare repeal vote even in the House.

Will the Senate pass something that the House can accept on a second go-round? Maybe. What the House process showed is that key constituencies in the Republican Party don’t want to be blamed for blocking one of the party’s big, long-standing goals: repealing or dramatically overhauling the Affordable Care Act. Members of the conservative Freedom Caucus, in particular, chafed at being criticized after the failure of the initial push for the AHCA in late March. President Trump refused to abandon the Obamacare repeal effort, even after other Republicans suggested that the party should move on. New Jersey’s Tom MacArthur, a member of the more moderate Tuesday Group, which was another source of opposition to the initial bill, was one of the key architects of an amendment that helped the bill finally pass. And Michigan’s Fred Upton, another Tuesday Group member, wrote another amendment that appealed to more moderate members of the House.

The GOP-controlled Senate — and each individual senator — will have similar incentives to make changes to the bill but still keep it moving toward Trump’s desk. Some senators both on the left of the Republican Senate conference (Maine’s Susan Collins) and the right (Texas’ Ted Cruz) criticized the AHCA in March. Now, though, it’s their turn, and they could be directly blamed if they are seen as standing between Trump and a law repealing Obamacare. The Republicans need at least 50 of the 52 GOP senators to back this bill, since it is going through the reconciliation process. With 50, Vice President Pence could cast the winning vote."

 

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Senate won't vote on House-passed healthcare bill

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A Senate proposal is now being developed by a 12-member working group. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, senators said, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process.

From the end of the article:
"It was kind of a moot issue if the House wasn't going to be able to pass a bill and now they have and I'm proud of them for doing it," Cornyn said. "Now it's up to us to pass a bill 51 senators can agree to."
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Passing a similar-but-different bill and then going to conference is common.
 

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What's incredible is that I keep checking all my conservative, republican, and Trump websites and no one knows what's in it. Most of the more uneducated, enthusiastic Trump supporters go "Yay, we did it!!!" while the more more educated and smarter bunch go "Ok, but what's in it?" People respond to that question with, I kid you not, "I don't know." And what's funny is that there are more people saying "I don't know" than "Yay!" by a good 10 to 1.

Ladies and gentlemen: America.
 

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Incredible.

Good luck when you have to face your constituents back home......

Your older constituents.... who have pre-existing conditions and will be charged more....will kick your ass back home. Good luck telling retirees in Florida this shyt.

I honestly....truly do not care. I volunteered to help with the ACA and sign people up so if they wanna torpedo their health IDGAF.

I look forward to these town halls explaining how this will be better. :mjgrin:
I would love to see it but these cowards have already been ducking their own constituents and town halls.
 

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Why is there so much anger being thrown at the GOP for gutting ACA?

Did the people not put them in power for this exact reason? :dahell:
because these rednecks are realizing that they actually need a lot of it :deadjay:

no one who makes less than 50 thousand a year has ANY business voting republican, and the average american makes 35k a year, and yet these scumbags keep getting elected. this could be a monumental moment when it comes to their base finally realizing that they're voting against their own interests
 
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