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They would
Never do this for Oakland Chicago Detroit or camdan New Jersey
Seattle is mostly >
Never do this for Oakland Chicago Detroit or camdan New Jersey
Seattle is mostly >
Seattle agrees to raise minimum wage to $15
- Thread starter TheyCallMeAzul
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Or how about people not making min wage demand more? You know, the stuff unions do for their members.
superunknown23
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you dont think housing prices arent going up? Rent is based on annual income in the area. people making just more than 15 dollars are fukked
My rent in Seattle...same apt in south lake union
990
1100
1250
1320
All plus parking
And amazon is hiring like 3000 people and facebook is putting like 500 across the street from me
We already fukked
If you make more than $15 and don't work for amazon you're in a space thats getting squeezed out of the main Seattle neighborhoods (downtown/slu/capitol hill/first hill/Fremont/Ballard) and being squeezed into the rest like Central district, Green lake, green wood, fukkin north gate...etc
It isn't gentrification its just a price flex that shytting on even early six figure earners.
This looks like things that would happen even in lieu of minimum wage increases.
Yapdatfool
Superstar
THIS.
Yea my boys telling me they gonna have to move to like Lake Forest and shyt...their rent gonna go up this year. They was even considering to moving back down to kent.
Yep. I moved to Denver a little over three years ago. My rent went from $800 to $1025, but I get a discount because I got in here before they really boosted their rates. My apartment would be around $1300 for a new tenant and we didn't get a minimum wage boost like that here.
Secure Da Bag
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Fukk your corny debates
Y'all arguing about what's going to happen, but the good thing is in due time, we'll all see. Everyone bookmark this thread. It still be very interesting a couple if years from now. My guess is the sky won't fall and Seattle won't turn into a Charles Buchowski poem.
I wish there was message board archives throughout history so we can see the alarmist warnings of the "pro-business community" when Teddy Rooosevelt was trust busting.
Or when they implemented the graduated income tax.
Or when they ended child labor, established mandatory overtime pay, and the 40 hour work week.
Or all the various reforms of the New Deal.
I think the juggernaut of American business we like to brag about so much can adjust to paying people a wage that adjusted for increased productivity, still wouldn't even be minimum wage in 1965.
Nothing happened. Seattle didn’t collapse.
What a shocker.
Jury is still out... latest studies show a net gain of $12/week for workers and a reduction in the hiring of new workers.Nothing happened. Seattle didn’t collapse.
All take aways can be/will be dismissed as pandemic related/distorted, depending on which side of the discussion you are on.
Gonna have to give it some time before we begin to draw any meaningful conclusions either way.
New Evidence from the Seattle Minimum Wage Study - Evans School of Public Policy & Governance (uw.edu)
Findings show that inequality among workers who earned less than the city’s median hourly wage ($26.42) was reduced modestly as workers in the lowest wage jobs saw large increases in hourly wages. There is no evidence to suggest, however, that Seattle’s minimum wage lowered the overall level of earnings inequality across all workers in the city, which substantially widened during this period. Further, Long notes that “the results in this report pertain to earnings inequality of those employed and thus do not include any additional increase in inequality produced by a reduction in the number of employed low-skilled workers.”
Findings from Long’s study are consistent with another article recently published by Evans School and University of Washington scholars entitled, “Minimum Wage Increases and Low-Wage Employment: Evidence from Seattle”, in the American Economic Journal: Economic Policy. In this paper, the study team examines the labor market effects of the Seattle Minimum Wage Ordinance when the citywide minimum was set to $13 an hour in 2017. Findings indicates that those earning less than $19 an hour saw wages rise by 3.4% once the city’s minimum wage was $13, while experiencing a 7.0% decrease in hours worked.
Low-wage workers employed before the policy took effect saw their wages rise more than their hours fell, yielding a net increase of around $12 per week. This increase in pay was larger for low-wage workers with more prior labor market experience. The team found evidence of a decline in the rate of hiring of low-wage workers who were not previously employed in the state of Washington as the minimum wage in the city reached $13 an hour.
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
It was not a disaster for middle market and higher businesses, and well led small businesses, as they were able to cut overhead (go to u-scan, terminate fte) without too much noticable difference.
For restaraunts and grocery and non-profits, it was painful. Non profits and social organizations, because while they were exempt, the wage FLOOR was raise in the city and they have to fall in line, or move to shoreline or Kent. Saw it happen live and was part of some of those decisions.
That said, it wasn't massive collapse as I projected. some businesses did move when leases were mature, and grocery store were particularly impacted, and stores that never had self scan, have installed them since (PCC, for example). And cost for everything in Seattle proper is higher than it's neighbors.
For restaraunts and grocery and non-profits, it was painful. Non profits and social organizations, because while they were exempt, the wage FLOOR was raise in the city and they have to fall in line, or move to shoreline or Kent. Saw it happen live and was part of some of those decisions.
That said, it wasn't massive collapse as I projected. some businesses did move when leases were mature, and grocery store were particularly impacted, and stores that never had self scan, have installed them since (PCC, for example). And cost for everything in Seattle proper is higher than it's neighbors.