Scientists Resort To Once-Unthinkable Solutions To Cool the Planet

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Scientists Resort To Once-Unthinkable Solutions To Cool the Planet



These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists and regulators who feared that tinkering with the environment could have unintended consequences, but now researchers are receiving taxpayer funds and private investments to get out of the lab and test these methods outdoors. The shift reflects growing concern that efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions aren't moving fast enough to prevent the destructive effects of heat waves, storms and floods made worse by climate change. Geoengineering isn't a substitute for reducing emissions, according to scientists and business leaders involved in the projects. Rather, it is a way to slow climate warming in the next few years while buying time to switch to a carbon-free economy in the longer term.

Three field experiments are under way in the U.S. and overseas. This month, researchers aboard a ship off the northeastern coast of Australia near the Whitsunday Islands are spraying a briny mixture through high-pressure nozzles into the air in an attempt to brighten low-altitude clouds that form over the ocean. Scientists hope bigger, brighter clouds will reflect sunlight away from the Earth, shade the ocean surface and cool the waters around the Great Barrier Reef, where warming ocean temperatures have contributed to massive coral die-offs. The research project, known as marine cloud brightening, is led by Southern Cross University as part of the $64.55 million, or 100 million Australian dollars, Reef Restoration and Adaptation Program. The program is funded by the partnership between the Australian government's Reef Trust and the Great Barrier Reef Foundation and includes conservation organizations and several academic institutions.
 

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Beyond the potential unintended consequences, geoengineering has always seemed like a stupid "solution" to me because climate change is too multifaceted. It's like trying to treat Covid infections by prescribing cough suppressors, all you're doing is addressing a single symptom without dealing with the root cause.

Even if they were miraculously able to halt the increase in temperature though these means (unlikely), they're still not changing the fact that there's too much CO2 in the air. That CO2 helps drive weather extremes and changes in precipitation even when the average temperature doesn't increase. It increases the acidity of the ocean and fukks over any marine life with a calcium carbonate shell. Geoengineering doesn't solve all the particulate emissions created, doesn't solve the water pollution, doesn't combat the negative impacts of deforestation. It seems counterproductive to put anything more than minimal resources into those efforts when we actually know what the root causes of our problems are and can address those instead.
 

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Beyond the potential unintended consequences, geoengineering has always seemed like a stupid "solution" to me because climate change is too multifaceted. It's like trying to treat Covid infections by prescribing cough suppressors, all you're doing is addressing a single symptom without dealing with the root cause.

Even if they were miraculously able to halt the increase in temperature though these means (unlikely), they're still not changing the fact that there's too much CO2 in the air. That CO2 helps drive weather extremes and changes in precipitation even when the average temperature doesn't increase. It increases the acidity of the ocean and fukks over any marine life with a calcium carbonate shell. Geoengineering doesn't solve all the particulate emissions created, doesn't solve the water pollution, doesn't combat the negative impacts of deforestation. It seems counterproductive to put anything more than minimal resources into those efforts when we actually know what the root causes of our problems are and can address those instead.
Do you believe a solution to the root cause(s) is actually on the table? :usure:
 

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Do you believe a solution to the root cause(s) is actually on the table? :usure:


The total # of people who are trying to keep it off the table is rather small compared to the total # of people who would benefit from such solutions.

In my mind it's like the end of slavery, or the end of the colonial era, or the fall of the USSR. Beforehand, there was little indication that the end of those institutions was imminent. People thought that their downfall would take many decades longer than they actually did, because those who were stopping progress were so powerful. But once they fell, history was rewritten and made to look like it was inevitable, when it really wasn't.

The end of modern consumer capitalism destroying the global environment will be the same way. When it's finally stopped, it will come fast and look obvious.
 

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Do you believe a solution to the root cause(s) is actually on the table? :usure:
Thanos tried to warn y'all tho :pachaha:



But in all seriousness I'm certain we can engineer our way out of this with brute force. It's the human way. I love that stuff we thought is unchangeable such as the methane produced by cattle, has been solved through science by simply feeding them kelp instead of alfalfa. Little fixes like this can cut their emissions by 90% without the need to change human consumption habits. I've read research journals documenting up to 96% reduction in emissions by further tweaking the kelp feed .



Plus, I've always been a proponent of geo engineering. An opaque and thin film of aluminum slightly bigger than 1 sq mile suspended at Earths L2 Lagrange point with the sun would literally undo the effects of global warming overnight, without the need to change human consumption habits. Same could be said for cloud work in the article above or even mimicking the sulfates of volcanic ash to outright reflect the light back like volcanic winters do (but in a controlled manner).
 

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I wonder how humanity will survive the next ice age in the distant future.

I also wonder how humanity will survive in the distant future when the sun deletes it's hydrogen supply an turns into a dwarf star.
 

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Planet been around for 4 billion fukking years but now it won't survive unless they engineer some tricks to stop the tricks they built to pollute in the first place :martin:
 

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Planet been around for 4 billion fukking years but now it won't survive unless they engineer some tricks to stop the tricks they built to pollute in the first place :martin:
correction. the planet will survive regardless. all these plans and think pieces are about how humans will survive on the planet. the earth doesn't need humans, we're the least valuable living thing to the earth.
 

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correction. the planet will survive regardless. all these plans and think pieces are about how humans will survive on the planet. the earth doesn't need humans, we're the least valuable living thing to the earth.
So geoengineering is the solution?


We ain't surviving shyt unless we put an immediate stop towards military weapons testing and usage
 

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So geoengineering is the solution?


We ain't surviving shyt unless we put an immediate stop towards military weapons testing and usage
wasn't commenting on that. just letting you know that all this nonsense isn't about the planet surviving. as far as i'm concerned we're doomed anyway.
 

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wasn't commenting on that. just letting you know that all this nonsense isn't about the planet surviving. as far as i'm concerned we're doomed anyway.
We are

Its clear how they separate climate issues from the military. Like these bombs disappear into thin air and have no ecological impact.
 
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