Say brehs, when will we be able to converse with animals?

[Prodigital]

I don't think that any animal can talk about abstract "meaning" (like the "meaning" of life), or have real, sophisticated moral dialogue (since they really don't have "moral" systems like we do, unless you want to consider informal rules governed by various instincts a "moral" system). "Meaning" and "morality" in both these cases are inventions constructed to alleviate our own suffering and fear of the world's meaninglessness. Studying our own history teaches us this.

The moral systems we have are imposed to maintain a standard. Maybe we're just too far gone to understand a naturalistic moral system. I mean, even with apes and prides of lions, there is maintained order and they don't have to fight every day to keep it. Animals don't live in a constant state of mayhem, say like throwing babies against trees and killing their neighbors, this is against their moral will.

I'm one to believe that the question alone could initiate a series of thoughts that could lead to elevated consciousness... aka, intelligent thought can be invoked




Me: "Yo ape, why didn't you throw that baby ape against a tree earlier? "

Ape: "Cause that's wrong and i'd get my ass beat.. "

Me: "But what if it wasn't wrong? "

Ape: ""

Dolphins already have language. Once we learn to decipher that we might be able to have complex convos with them. With regard to other animals, their brains might not have developed naturally to think about things at such a high level. We might have to enhance their intelligence ala planet of the apes to get an idea of what they think about shyt.

I'm assuming something like insects don't have complex thought, especially looking at the way they interact with each other, but then you see the likes of dolphins and wonder how could they not.

You're maybe spot on tho, having to enhance them to the point of being able to fully communicate. I think it could be simple as interfacing with the brain. A while back i saw a video of a monkey controlling an additional third limb with just his mind, and using it to feed himself. We haven't fully matured this tech, but what if we could graph a new voice box on a animal. Give them a more humanized sensory system.

We're way far outs from giving them the 'intelligent' pill, but given neuroplasticity, we could do it by other means.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Thread is heatrocks!

 

[Fillerguy]

Just a wondering.

Animals are getting pretty smart. Chimps using sign language, elephants using touch screens, when are we going to be able to hold full conversations with one of these creatures? And by full conversation, complex things like what they feel the meaning of life is rather than what color are apples.

Not right now. They dont experience life as we do.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

there was a story recently (hopefully someone can confirm) that an ape or monkey used sign language to communicate to onlookers to "kill him" because he didn't want to be locked in a cage anymore :cry:

 

[Young_and_Reckless]

I wouldn't want my dog to talk. The little mutherfuker might talk shyt about me jerking off so much to my girl.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I wouldn't want my dog to talk. The little mutherfuker might talk shyt about me jerking off so much to my girl.

my cat watches me jerk off.
i throw shyt at her so she goes away.