Saudi preacher jailed over daughter's death

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Saudi preacher jailed over daughter's death
By Sebastian Usher BBC News
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Fayhan al-Ghamdi appeared on religious satellite TV channels as a preacher


A Saudi preacher accused of torturing his five-year-old daughter and beating her to death has been sentenced to eight years in prison and 600 lashes.

The case of Fayhan al-Ghamdi made headlines around the world earlier this year when it was suggested that a Saudi court might let him walk free.

Activists began a campaign named after his daughter, "I am Lama", to press the authorities to prevent that happening.

Al-Ghamdi is not recognised as a cleric by the Saudi religious establishment.

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The horrific details of the abuse that Lama al-Ghamdi suffered were revealed in medical records from the hospital where she was treated for 10 months before she died.

Her ribs were broken, a fingernail was torn off and her skull crushed. She had been beaten with a cane and electric cables. She had also suffered burns.

The abuse had happened while she was with her father, who was separated from her mother.

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Lama's death triggered a Saudi Twitter campaign to criminalise violence against women and children
It was reported that al-Ghamdi had suspected his daughter of losing her virginity and had beaten her and molested her in response.

It was even suggested that he had raped her himself, although this was denied by Lama's mother.

The outrage over the case intensified earlier this year when activists suggested that he might walk free, despite having confessed to having beaten Lama.

The judge in the case suggested that one reading of Islamic law meant a father could not be held fully accountable for the death of his children.

Activists warned that it looked like he might be released if the mother accepted blood money.

The story grabbed headlines across the world.

It shone a light on child abuse in Saudi Arabia where rights activists say strict codes of family privacy and a patriarchal tradition make it a serious problem.

The Saudi authorities set up a child abuse helpline in response.

Now, a verdict has been reached in the same court and with the same judge.

One of the activists involved in the campaign, Aziz al-Yousef, told the BBC that she was disappointed that Fayhan al-Ghamdi did not receive a life sentence.

But Lama's mother had in the end accepted the offer of blood money, despite having once said she would never take it.

She said she needed it to help support her surviving children. That ruled out a life sentence.

Another campaigner who fought for a longer sentence, Manal al-Sharif, told the BBC that she did not believe the penalty was enough.

But she does feel that the I am Lama campaign - with the international pressure it brought to bear on the authorities - was instrumental in leading to the recent introduction of an unprecedented new Saudi law against domestic violence.

However, she added that she still has deep reservations over how effectively this will be enforced in practice.

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I've seen this fools videos before.

:smh:


What do you guys say again? Women and children are treated best under Islam?
 
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I suppose it's good that he actually got a jail sentence, but me. I'm still disgusted that this sick ass dude got off that easily. :smh:


Eight years? C'mon son. People have gotten longer sentences for selling weed. I don't support the death penalty but I wouldn't have complained if this guy got it.
 

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I suppose it's good that he actually got a jail sentence, but me. I'm still disgusted that this sick ass dude got off that easily. :smh:


Eight years? C'mon son. People have gotten longer sentences for selling weed. I don't support the death penalty but I wouldn't have complained if this guy got it.

@acri1 Lettuce take a hard look at this article

f torturing his five-year-old daughter and beating her to death
...

sentenced to eight years in prison and 600 lashes
(none of that even computes)

made headlines around the world earlier this year when it was suggested that a Saudi court might let him walk free
(that's a problem)

Activists began a campaign named after his daughter, "I am Lama", to press the authorities to prevent that happening ( it wouldn't have otherwise)

Lama's death triggered a Saudi Twitter campaign to criminalise violence against women and children
(implies it wasn't before)


It was reported that al-Ghamdi had suspected his daughter of losing her virginity and had beaten her and molested her in response.


?????


outrage over the case intensified earlier this year when activists suggested that he might walk free, despite having confessed to having beaten Lama

um?

The judge in the case suggested that one reading of Islamic law meant a father could not be held fully accountable for the death of his children.


:leostare:

he might be released if the mother accepted blood money.

(beyond words)

The Saudi authorities set up a child abuse helpline in response


(buck late and a dollar short huh?)


Lama's mother had in the end accepted the offer of blood money, despite having once said she would never take it.

(I guess at least she has something to remember her daughter by)


Anyone wanna help me understand this?
 

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It's a cultural thing though, right?
Is that the best you can do?

Did you make...

...a thread about those Christians parents who let their child die because their beliefs didn't condone them seeking care? They prayed..
...a thread about the Kosher phone in Israel that blocks access to rape and mental counseling hotlines?
...a thread about Pastor David Love fukking his best friends wife, kills him then does his eulogy?

I could go on if you like. You didn't post any of those because they didn't have multiple syllable names and pray to Allah.
 

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Is that the best you can do?

Did you make...

...a thread about those Christians parents who let their child die because their beliefs didn't condone them seeking care? They prayed..
...a thread about the Kosher phone in Israel that blocks access to rape and mental counseling hotlines?
...a thread about Pastor David Love fukking his best friends wife, kills him then does his eulogy?

I could go on if you like. You didn't post any of those because they didn't have multiple syllable names and pray to Allah.

So you're saying it's not a cultural thing?

Also I've pointed out the disgusting antics of the later just as much as anyone else here if not more.
 

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Under Sharia, he should be facing the death penalty.

Just more proof that the justice system in Saudi is heavily clan and bedouin cultured oriented.
 

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I'm glad I live in america... we don't have to deal w shyt like this.
 

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This is such a sad and unfortunate event. This sham of an imam should be put to death.

That being said the Saudi justice system is broken. The fact this guy is doing doing considerable jailtime is progress. Furthermore if you read between the lines there is a continuing struggle for the rights of women and children in this super patriarchal society and that there are inroads being made however gradual.

These actions need to be taken at face value and it not defendable by Islam or most religions for that matter. In fact he is not even recognized as an Imam (the requirements are stricter than most realize).

This article is being used as a hit piece against Islam but there are some other moving parts in play here.

Furthermore what right @88m3 do you have to pass judgement on the mother of this slain child? The only reason she took the blood money is that there is no support system in place for women to support themselves or their children. She will have a a very difficult time getting a job and if she is granted a divorce (Saudi Law typically gives the husband final say) she will have a hard time getting remarried.
 

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It's a cultural thing though, right?

duh retard. Im pretty sure everyone knows this dude would get the death penalty under christian, jewish or islam law.

I'm glad I live in america... we don't have to deal w shyt like this.

Yea, you just gotta pray you hit 15 before one of your moms boyfriends tries touching you
 
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