San Francisco bans disposable, single-use bottled water at events

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The city could generate a lot of revenue at events by having recycle bins all over the parks and cash in on those recyclables. :snoop:

Whats going to happen when someone is in the middle of the park and having some heat stroke issues.

*hey can i borrow your water jug im hot* instead of buying their own.

I think they're hating on another small business.
 

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Honesty, I have never seen such a huge and obvious gap between rich and poor, than in San Francisco. It's a very weird place. On the one hand, you have people who literally live in the streets, and there are still thousands of them. There are people who barely make it in San Francisco. Then, on the other hand, you have the STEM workers, who are paid 100K+ on average. Almost none of the of STEM workers actually work in San Francisco, they all get bused about 40 minutes to the south on these private and luxurious buses to the big tech companies like Google, EA or Genentech.

Sometimes I work in South SF and San Francisco, and whenever I drive up 101, I see dozens of Buses transporting these highly paid STEM workers. Then when I get to SF and turn onto Market street, I see so much poverty and despair. And the poorest of poor are almost always characteristically African America with Whites sprinkled in here and there. Rarely do I see even "the pisas" (New wave hispanic immigrants who are usually predominately Mezo-Indian) on streets.



The poverty shocking sometimes... At least that's the way it used to be. Now that all the Indians and Asian tech guys are moving in. The city is changing now. It's not really a place for art and culture. There are a lot of great places to eat, but it's not the place that I used to go to, as a youth, for Underground hip-hop culture and apparel. The people aren't into that stuff anymore. As with any city that is dominating by Indians and Chinese (like many cities in the Bay Area) The emphasis is on Brand names like Lius Vuiton or even garbage like Polo. Sorry to say, Indians and Chinese are just not into creative fashion or art. They are a sheepish-like people that promote an extreme form of Consumerism. For example, There is this bullshyt store that sells bullshyt clothing (Uniclo I think it is called), and there is literally a line to get into that store, and it is basically no different than Old navy or the gap. People only like it because it has some strong brand name in East Asia. I really don't get it.

All the artisans are moving to Oakland now. Oakland is going to be the next center of Culture in the Bay. That's my prediction. In fact, I prefer going to Berkeley and the East Bay now. I just can't get into all the Sheepishness, and the people that can't think for themselves. I get to see a lot cool and innovative things in the East Bay now.







San Francisco doesn't seem to be a place for anyone over 35 either. I have heard someone call it never never land.

Interesting take. I haven't been to S.F in about 10 years so maybe alot has changed culturally.

But it is still far from the liberal dystopian city that Dead7 would want to paint it as.....I plan to go back and visit the bay area.
 

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Bottled water is nothing but a giant ripoff (I haven't made a thread about that in a while, maybe I should) and bad for the environment, so this doesn't really bother me much. :manny:

Though I'd rather people just realize it's a ripoff and voluntarily stop wasting money/energy/plastic with it.
 

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Interesting take. I haven't been to S.F in about 10 years so maybe alot has changed culturally.

But it is still far from the liberal dystopian city that Dead7 would want to paint it as.....I plan to go back and visit the bay area.
:ehh: I'd say S.F. and New York are easily the most liberal cities in the nation, but thats just my opinion :manny:
 

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:ehh: I'd say S.F. and New York are easily the most liberal cities in the nation, but thats just my opinion :manny:

Not liberal, friend, but "neo-liberal." Try to learn the difference.
 

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:ehh: I'd say S.F. and New York are easily the most liberal cities in the nation, but thats just my opinion :manny:

At least with the soda ban, it was strictly for health purposes....this is just rules for the sake of rules.
 

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:ehh:Fair enough.
Could you explain the fundamental difference?

A liberal might be against the use of plastic water bottles but would never legislate it as law, keeping the perspective that their "progressive" viewpoint which they deem healthy is just one of many opinions on the matter

A neoliberal thinks that plastic water bottles should be banned because it's a healthy decision and that their opinion is at the utmost progressive
 

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A liberal might be against the use of plastic water bottles but would never legislate it as law, keeping the perspective that their "progressive" viewpoint which they deem healthy is just one of many opinions on the matter

A neoliberal thinks that plastic water bottles should be banned because it's a healthy decision and that their opinion is at the utmost progressive

Then every plastic bottle should be banned.
 

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Then every plastic bottle should be banned.

Well, I'm not a neoliberal since I think people should have the volition to make unhealthy decisions but yes, a neoliberal holding the position that a plastic bottle is not an ideal way to store liquid should ban all plastic bottles but neoliberals aren't exactly logical people.
 

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Well, I'm not a neoliberal since I think people should have the volition to make unhealthy decisions but yes, a neoliberal holding the position that a plastic bottle is not an ideal way to store liquid should ban all plastic bottles but neoliberals aren't exactly logical people.

Gotcha.
 

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Fair ban IMO,it's a municipal & environmental issue

No different from shyt like emissions controls on cars. Everyone hated em until they started seeing pictures and the asthma/cancer rates in smoggy places like India & China

They didnt ban all water bottles, just disposable ones. Big difference but prob still too nuanced for someone like @DEAD7
 

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Fair ban IMO,it's a municipal & environmental issue

No different from shyt like emissions controls on cars. Everyone hated em until they started seeing pictures and the asthma/cancer rates in smoggy places like India & China

If this were an environmental issue at heart they'd ban all plastic bottled drinks, not just water.
 
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