San Bernardino Phone shows nothing significant: FBI states

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The meaning wasn't it's a good look for them, but it's a good feeling as if Apple has actual boundaries, that the USA just can't use terrorism to supercede. Many countries give up their sovereignty for American interests, and I don't think Russia and China would necessarily be open to doing that, but a lot of these companies have American braintrusts or heavily influenced by our policies. Seeing a multinational say no to American entitlement must have made countries like China and Russia feel better.

TBH China and Russia are probably mad as fukk about how this went down. They've been trying to get backdoors into phones for years and most American tech companies have told them to fukk off.
 

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TBH China and Russia are probably mad as fukk about how this went down. They've been trying to get backdoors into phones for years and most American tech companies have told them to fukk off.
They should at least be happy that the USA interest isn't the end all be all anymore.
 

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Think they'll ever put us in camps?

No, but you shouldn't resort to conspiracy bullshyt if you're not following along. Read this graphic from the ACLU on what the Patriot Act actually did in terms of catching terrorism.

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San Bernardino is obviously on a much smaller scale but the feds used it as pretext to force Apple to allow them access. This really is a big deal for our right to privacy. They want access to a device that holds a lot of personal information about our lives. That's a loss of liberty and imo, a violation of our 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search.

The big tech companies seem to agree. Apple was sparring with the US government and didn't give them access to their systems. Microsoft just sued the government over similar 4th Amendment violations about spying without warrant on customer emails etc. All of this shyt sets precedent so it is actually very important. The irony of the OP is that the feds tried to take away more civil liberties and they found nothing. It's similar to the Patriot Act where they gained a legal right to spy on American citizens and stopped zero terrorists.
 

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No, but you shouldn't resort to conspiracy bullshyt if you're not following along. Read this graphic from the ACLU on what the Patriot Act actually did in terms of catching terrorism.

patriot_infographic_full.jpg

San Bernardino is obviously on a much smaller scale but the feds used it as pretext to force Apple to allow them access. This really is a big deal for our right to privacy. They want access to a device that holds a lot of personal information about our lives. That's a loss of liberty and imo, a violation of our 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search.

The big tech companies seem to agree. Apple was sparring with the US government and didn't give them access to their systems. Microsoft just sued the government over similar 4th Amendment violations about spying without warrant on customer emails etc. All of this shyt sets precedent so it is actually very important. The irony of the feds trying to take away some more civil liberties was that they found nothing in the OP. Just like they didn't stop one terrorist with the Patriot Act yet they are legally allowed to spy on US citizens.


Fair enough and I don't think anyone would deny what you've said but what is the ultimate end game?

They'll never control everything(information/free will/human nature).

I also think our government is more bumbling than we like to imagine.
 
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