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If you think Apple is using original ideas please do yourself a favor and read the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson. You'll never utter the phrase 'Samsung is copying Apple' again. If you don't feel like reading that book then just watch this. He's talking about stealing from XEROX here.




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If you think Apple is using original ideas please do yourself a favor and read the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson. You'll never utter the phrase 'Samsung is copying Apple' again. If you don't feel like reading that book then just watch this. He's talking about stealing from XEROX here.


Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal - YouTube

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"Stealing from XEROX" ????? On what planet is paying for something considered stealing?

Apple paid Xerox for their technology in stock options. $1 million to be exact. The developers at XEROX PARC weren't happy about it but the XEROX Board of Directors were.

Maybe you should take your own advice and read the book by Walter Isaacson (everything I said above is in it, I actually read it). I'm guessing you never did and now you're just spouting misinformed here'say? :skip:
 

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Apple paid Xerox for their technology in stock options. $1 million to be exact. The developers at Xerox weren't happy about it but the Board of Directors were.

Maybe you should read the book by Walter Isaacson? I'm guessing you never did and now you're just spouting misinformed here'say. :skip:

Just to expand on what I said above...

What Apple did with Xerox is no different from what every tech company does now licensing and buying technology from other companies.

Google, Samsung, Facebook...everyone does it.

It's just that nothing as revolutionary as the GUI was bought as cheaply.

That's why it's entered tech folklore and probably why the story has been miss-told over the years. And it's especially funny how "Apple bought the GUI from XEROX and Microsoft Stole it from XEROX and APPLE) turns into "Apple stole from XEROX and Microsoft Windows was magically created somehow. The end"

The misinformed Apple hate is hilarious to me.
 

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"Stealing from XEROX" ????? On what planet is paying for something considered stealing?

Apple paid Xerox for their technology in stock options. $1 million to be exact. The developers at XEROX PARC weren't happy about it but the XEROX Board of Directors were.

Maybe you should take your own advice and read the book by Walter Isaacson (everything I said above is in it, I actually read it). I'm guessing you never did and now you're just spouting misinformed here'say? :skip:

Now Microsoft stole the GUI. Didn't pay anyone. Lifted it from their dev unit of the LISA and the Macintosh they got. But that's a story for a different thread.

I read it the week after it came out and enjoyed it very much. I admire Jobs for what he was able to do. I think its pretty funny that you flat out ignored the video in which the bwoi Jobs says they take 'Great pride in stealing'. The fact of the matter is that portion of interview is about the ideas that Apple used that originated at Xerox.

I really have no interest in arguing with you about it b/c I own Samsung (GS3) and Apple products (iPad2).

You would have to ask Jobs why he mentioned stealing in an interview about something he bought?

My larger point is people act like Apple originates all these ideas when the Messiah is on record saying he takes great pride in stealing. :lolbron:
 

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Just to expand on what I said above...

What Apple did with Xerox is no different from what every tech company does now licensing and buying technology from other companies.

Google, Samsung, Facebook...everyone does it.

It's just that nothing as revolutionary as the GUI was bought as cheaply.

That's why it's entered tech folklore and probably why the story has been miss-told over the years. And it's especially funny how "Apple bought the GUI from XEROX and Microsoft Stole it from XEROX and APPLE) turns into "Apple stole from XEROX and Microsoft Windows was magically created somehow. The end"

The misinformed Apple hate is hilarious to me.

I don't hate Apple. TBH I'm baffled that people religiously line up on any side of tech debates. I just know no company is out there creating great ideas in a vacuum.
 

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I read it the week after it came out and enjoyed it very much. I admire Jobs for what he was able to do. I think its pretty funny that you flat out ignored the video in which the bwoi Jobs says they take 'Great pride in stealing'. The fact of the matter is that portion of interview is about the ideas that Apple used that originated at Xerox.

I really have no interest in arguing with you about it b/c I own Samsung (GS3) and Apple products (iPad2).

You would have to ask Jobs why he mentioned stealing in an interview about something he bought?

My larger point is people act like Apple originates all these ideas when the Messiah is on record saying he takes great pride in stealing.


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You would have to ask Jobs why he mentioned stealing in an interview about something he bought?

Your point was that Apple stole from XEROX. You cited the book and the video. :upsetfavre:

I pointed out that you were wrong. Apple didn't steal from XEROX. They paid for the tech (it's in the book). Regardless of what the Jobs video says. Paying for something is not stealing. :skip:

You responded by spinning your original statement. :upsetfavre:

I have no interest in arguing with you either. But don't expect to just shout out "The sky is GREEN!" and not have anybody respond to your declaration. It was my duty to respond.

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Your point was that Apple stole from XEROX. You cited the book and the video. :upsetfavre:

I pointed out that you were wrong. Apple didn't steal from XEROX. They paid for the tech (it's in the book). Regardless of what the Jobs video says. Paying for something is not stealing. :skip:

You responded by spinning your original statement. :upsetfavre:

I have no interest in arguing with you either. But don't expect to just shout out "The sky is GREEN!" and not have anybody respond to your declaration. It was my duty to respond.

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I will concede your point that I was wrong about them stealing from Xerox even though Jobs brought it up when questioned. :skip: :steviej: :Carver:
I didn't put the words in his mouth, he said them. Just to keep the discourse going I will concede that point since that seems to be the only thing you will address.

My first post is far from the 'The sky is GREEN'. I'll give you 'Dark Blue', but not 'GREEN'.

I am interested now though.. In any context what do you think about Jobs saying he steals without shame? Especially in the context of the original post.
 

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:childplease:you know what the top 2 cell phones in sales were last quarter?iphone 5 and iPhone 4S.

The over year old 4s sold more than the samdung shyt 3.

I just read up on that thanks for the info but what I also read in the same article is it was for the first time they were number 1 since 2008.:krs:
They still lost for the entire 2012 though. So they cleaned up in garbage time. Good for them. lol
 
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