Sac Town Azn Crips want all da smoke wit Charleston White

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I think you confusing urban culture with black. all groups be in the hood. blacks are not monolithic, this is the basic misunderstanding. I dont have anything in common with the average gangster, scammer, etc but thats what we sale and thats what they buy. they identify cuz it really be gangster in they own country, thats the number one reason the parents immigrated here but the streets attract the younger generation. i think its dumb how many artist use the nikka word and expect other people to not pick it up . our priorities are retarded cuz we dying out here worried about poor brown people saying nikka lol. also if your not from cali you might see it way different due to the culture difference and how it be segregated in a lot of other spots


But do you see what I'm saying?

You can't be black and grow up in the Mexican parts of TX, speaking Spanish, struggling and doing whatever they do and be one of them.

You cant be black and grow up in China town and be one of them.

shyt you can't be black and live in a white neighborhood, go to a white school and white college and be white.

Yeah not every black person uses nikka or any form of the word but it's still deeply connected to us, it affects us in a way it can never affect anyone else regardless of circumstance.

Convert to the Jewish faith then start talking all that "you can't be anti Semitic" bullshyt.

Learn Spanish and marry a Mexican woman and go ride hard for cinco de mayo and Mexican pride.

shyt be black and see how far you make it in the Catholic religion.

They'll fukk with you for a min, maybe accept homage but there's a line where they will be like :stopitslime:.

Where's our line?
 

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this won't do anything but make him talk even more shyt :ufdup:

wanna-be nikkas kill me :snoop:

Its not wanting to be black, it's about urban culture. If you from the hood, it doesn't matter what color you are, you will be assimilated into that culture.

I know black men that doesn't even speak any where close to how they were talking in that video. Because they werent from the hood.
 

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But do you see what I'm saying?

You can't be black and grow up in the Mexican parts of TX, speaking Spanish, struggling and doing whatever they do and be one of them.

You cant be black and grow up in China town and be one of them.

shyt you can't be black and live in a white neighborhood, go to a white school and white college and be white.

Yeah not every black person uses nikka or any form of the word but it's still deeply connected to us, it affects us in a way it can never affect anyone else regardless of circumstance.

Convert to the Jewish faith then start talking all that "you can't be anti Semitic" bullshyt.

Learn Spanish and marry a Mexican woman and go ride hard for cinco de mayo and Mexican pride.

shyt be black and see how far you make it in the Catholic religion.

They'll fukk with you for a min, maybe accept homage but there's a line where they will be like :stopitslime:.

Where's our line?


What line ? black people sell black urban culture and they buy. How you gonna get mad about that lol. Its just we dont agree but we dont control the narrative. We have a unique experience, we are not monolithic and our only real power is cultural trends and influence. everyone you mentioned has real economic power. i dont question why people want to be like us but not us. its self explanatory. no matter how much you dont like it or disagree it wont stop and we created it
 

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black people sell black urban culture and they buy.

What are we selling and what are they buying from us?

We popularize hair and nails, women are buying that shyt from Asians who talk shyt on them in front of their face in their language, rip us off pricewise and won't hesitate to beat, jump and drag a black women in their store front when they act up.

And don't act like other women don't talk shyt on the nail ladies, plenty of YouTube videos of Karen getting her nails done talking shyt on the nail lady saying "speak english!" And "this is America!" "Go back to where you came from!"
- a white woman skipped out on a check and ran over and killed a nail lady and what happened? Nothing. Nothing changed after that but they still treat us like dogs.

Rappers still buy jewelry from that Asian mf
Rappers were still buying wearing Nigo

nikkas quick to get some Chinese, ain't never been a black cook, waiter, server, host.

Who black do you know that was making and selling rims?

Jacob the jeweler and them other dudes

Lot of non black people are designing mixtape covers and logos for people on the internet.

Lot of non black people are throwin beats up for sale for these non blacks to rap on.

Lot of non black people are shooting and editing these videos for non blacks to rap in.


What are we selling? Who is buying from us?
 

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Now all of a sudden “ Man dem Asians don’t play, dey wiff da shyts fam!” Fukk outta here, black men are fukking weak if we have gotten to the point that an Asian can back us down.
nikkas love doing this shyt with lesser known groups. "Them Laotian brehs will whoop yo ass! :damn:"
 

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But do you see what I'm saying?

You can't be black and grow up in the Mexican parts of TX, speaking Spanish, struggling and doing whatever they do and be one of them.
Yes you can.
There are a number of blacks in Mexican gangs
Speak the lingo. Dress like em. Do you really be out there like that?
 

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Yes you can.
There are a number of blacks in Mexican gangs
Speak the lingo. Dress like em. Do you really be out there like that?

Get the fukk out of here.

I know of a few Mexican gangs and the ones that aren't hardcore racist against black still don't fukk with them. You not getting jumped in or buying your way in. They not kickin it with you at the same bars, they not playing basketball with you or rappin with you. And that's street level. I grew up and knew these cats in school. Only thing we had in common is we wasn't white.

Ain't no black men in a Mexican prison gang, I'll tell you that.

I had close friends that are Mexican, who's families are banging since 1st grade. A few cats older than me, some same age and a couple younger than me. One of my closests Mexican homeboys was a ward of the state for 2 years cause his mom's, pops and uncle got deported. I know where mexicans draw the line from being cordial to "alright black man this is as far as i/we trust you."
 
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What are we selling and what are they buying from us?

We popularize hair and nails, women are buying that shyt from Asians who talk shyt on them in front of their face in their language, rip us off pricewise and won't hesitate to beat, jump and drag a black women in their store front when they act up.

And don't act like other women don't talk shyt on the nail ladies, plenty of YouTube videos of Karen getting her nails done talking shyt on the nail lady saying "speak english!" And "this is America!" "Go back to where you came from!"
- a white woman skipped out on a check and ran over and killed a nail lady and what happened? Nothing. Nothing changed after that but they still treat us like dogs.

Rappers still buy jewelry from that Asian mf
Rappers were still buying wearing Nigo

nikkas quick to get some Chinese, ain't never been a black cook, waiter, server, host.

Who black do you know that was making and selling rims?

Jacob the jeweler and them other dudes

Lot of non black people are designing mixtape covers and logos for people on the internet.

Lot of non black people are throwin beats up for sale for these non blacks to rap on.

Lot of non black people are shooting and editing these videos for non blacks to rap in.


What are we selling? Who is buying from us?
not sure what your point is. i do know black people are our own worst enemies. we go hard on everyone but ourselves. im not worried about what other people are doing. the work and movement i push is for the furtherment of black people. others are welcome to support
 

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not sure what your point is. i do know black people are our own worst enemies. we go hard on everyone but ourselves. im not worried about what other people are doing. the work and movement i push is for the furtherment of black people. others are welcome to support

I'm asking specifically what are we selling and who is buying it from us. Name something, anything


My point is:
We create and market for free. They are manufacturing and selling it, and we are buying it back and getting ripped off and treated like shyt. And we then welcome them with open arms and accept them as one of us.
 

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I'm asking specifically what are we selling and who is buying it from us. Name something, anything


My point is:
We create and market for free. They are manufacturing and selling it, and we are buying it back and getting ripped off and treated like shyt. And we then welcome them with open arms and accept them as one of us.

if you want to judge people as a whole and discount personal experience you might as well be maga white right. aint this what black people been fighting since slavery was abolished. you could complain or work to create the infrastructure we need to compete which we dont have. a black and asian nail saloon could open on the same day and black people will go to the asian one. black people dont value black people. why would others ? and im pan african. the products i make black people want for free or cheap while white people pay 60-100 for same product,
 

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This is true too. While there have been situations here and there most Asian and black hoods don't funk with each other...

I think one thing guys misunderstand is the black dudes defending Asians in this instance aren't afraid of them. They are like anyone else, there's some Asian sets that are notorious and some that get whipped on but most don't have street issues with black hoods for brothers to even be afraid of em...

We network with them on some money shyt because alota the Asians know Asians that are plugs; for years I moved trees from Sac to the East Coast (Western NY, different parts of VA, different parts of NC), and I believe two different occasions I tapped in with some Asians who had the fire at the best rates...

Plus word to @TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY I hung out in The Manors alot, have fam over there. The Manors is about a quarter Asian and there are Asian homies from the set...

But The Manors is a black hood (Bloods) and aint no one out there getting pressed by no Asian gangs...



Charleston to me is a proven goofball but there's solid points he's making, as well as misperceptions:

ANYBODY BLACK WHO DOES NOT ACCEPT THE N-WORD FROM NONBLACKS IS WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO BE RESPECTED ON THAT. And nonblacks the country over have no respect for this because too many of us give passes to all flavors of nonblacks, so these nonblacks believe that whatever is acceptable in their social circle means all black people feel the same...

•Charleston is making this a California issue when Mexicans and Asians all throughout Texas dropping N-bombs left and right. So if you solid on it be solid all the way thru. Nonblacks appropriating black culture isn't a "California thing". I've lived in 7 states and been to 4 times that amount, nonblacks do this shyt everywhere....its an AMERICAN thing...

•when people grow up in multicultural areas all kinds of color lines are blurred, from speech to food to taste in dating preference to accents to fashion and the list goes on...

If Black Americans are 10% of the population anywhere, we are the most influential ethnic group in terms of style and trends set. I've seen this everywhere I've been, and this speaks to the overall power of black culture. Nonblacks really don't want to be us but they want what we have that makes everyone incorporate our style into theirs, black folks are the most unique group of people in the nation...

The point I'm making is when these people grow up around black people they assimilate into our culture. There hasn't been a majority black neighborhood (50%+) in Sacramento since the 90s. A ton of these Asians grow up in areas with fewer than 20% blacks yet we have the dominant influence and swag and pull on these areas they grow up in, plus many of these areas that are not majority black are legacy, historically black areas, so the legacy and infrastructure of these neighborhoods are there and these Asians grow up knowing this...

......

All that said, the n word and other facets of black misappropriation are well beyond the point of pulling your hair out, outside of the most egregious and blatantly racist scenarios. I'm like this, if anyone black gives passes for it, thats fine, just understand that as the black man/woman (because BOTH genders of Black America do this pass shyt) in the company of nonblacks, they DO view you as representative of the entire black culture and experience...

And we know this is true because anytime a nonblack gets checked for some offensive shyt, they always talk about having black friends and family and growing up in black hoods and etc, as if that gives them a universal pass with everybody black. Same song from all nonblacks who get checked and it doesn't matter what stare you're in, I've literally seen this EVERYWHERE I've been in the United States...

So of you're one of us who allows nonblacks to say the n word or other shyt that can be viewed offensively (like light skin/dark skin jokes made by nonblacks, or "jokes" about black stereotypes, etc) i do think you have a responsibility to educate your nonblack friends and family that they should only feel comfortable speaking this way in your circle. What is cool in your circle isnt applicable to everyone black...

The problem is the vast majority of us who give passes don't educate these muhfukkas and these nonblack groups have no interest in educating themselves, historically we're the worst treated people on this land from Euro invasion to present day...

And if you're someone black who doesn't give passes you have EVERY right to voice that and honestly no one black should question your right to do so. If you find it disrespectful, even if one of your black homies disagrees, he should support your voice in telling nonblacks they can't use certain language with you...
:ehh: Good post , I’m just adding my 2cents to what u said already..
To address the Asian cats in the video: yea asian gangs get busy but they mainly go at other Asians from what I seen growing up and are quick to jump or shoot something up .. that’s not a accomplishment tho cuz anyone could that.. my only thing with people using the excuse of I grew up in the hood etc is that most of the time they will act like you’re being disrespectful for calling them out on it .

I’m From NorCal too, the diversity here blurs lines with how people talk and does make you seem like a representative for the black race.. I literally had to check a dude and his girl when I was out with a group of people a few weeks back .. The group I was with I knew in high school but haven’t seen for years.. we’re at dinner and his girl is being loud and saying this nikka look crazy while showing a picture of someone . i immediately call them on it.. but you know they got every excuse. But we’re not white and my family has black in it , etc.. but her dude came up to me and apologized 10 minutes later and his girl the same .. the rest of the group had my back on it. I say that to say if we do allow our friends to talk certain ways around us we need to let them know not everyone is cool with it and will check you or take it to another level ..
 
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